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Thanks for the ship template information!

Thanks for improving {{Invincible class battlecruiser}} with the {{Sclass}} and {{HMS}} style templates. I hadn't seen those before, but are very, very handy. Thanks again! — MrDolomite • Talk 19:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

April GA Newsletter

The April issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is now available. Dr. Cash (talk) 03:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles Newsletter

The WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
Volume I, No. 6 - April 2008

March issue | May issue

Project News

There are currently 3,868 Good Articles listed at WP:GA.

The backlog at Good Article Nominations is 195 unreviewed articles. Out of 267 total nominations, 57 are on hold, 13 are under review, and 2 are seeking a second opinion. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article or three as soon as you have a chance!

The oldest unreviewed articles are: A4232 road, New York State Route 63, Great American Boycott, First Great Western, Duck Soup, Sanja Matsuri, Code of Conduct (affiliate marketing), Prospect Mountain Veterans Memorial Highway, Aliens (film), and Roanoke Regional Airport.

The categories with the largest backlogs are: Theatre, film and drama (27 articles), Sports and recreation (25 articles), Transport (24 articles), Music (19 articles), War and military (19 articles), Politics and government (18 articles), Religion, mysticism and mythology (16 articles), Literature (14 articles), World history (14 articles), and Video and computer games (14 articles).

The backlog at Good Article Reassessment currently stands at 12 articles up for re-review.

GA Sweeps Update

The GA Sweeps process is progressing nicely! During the month of March, a total of 92 articles were reviewed. Of that total, 74 were found to continue to meet the GA criteria, and 18 were delisted. There are currently 14 articles that are still on hold in this process, awaiting revisions. Congratulations to Nehrams2020 (talk · contribs), who sweeped a whopping 51 articles during the month! Jackyd101 (talk · contribs) also deserves congrats for sweeping a total of 26 articles!

Reviewer of the Month

Dihydrogen monoxide is the GAN Reviewer of the Month for March, based on the assessments made by Dr. Cash on the number and thoroughness of the reviews made by individual reviewers each week. Dihydrogen monoxide hails from Brisbane in Queensland, Australia, and has been editing Wikipedia since April 6, 2007. He has contributed to 8 Featured articles and is an avid reviewer and contributor to the Good articles program. Other reviewers should check out his Noob's Guide to GA Reviewing. Congratulations to Dihydrogen monoxide!

Other outstanding reviewers during the month of March include:

Member News

There are now 195 members of WikiProject Good Articles! Welcome to the 13 new members that joined during the month of March:

This WikiProject, and the Good Article program as a whole, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

To delist or not to delist, that is the question

So you’ve found an article that, on the face of it, does not merit its good article status. What next? Especially where there are many glaring issues that need addressing, it’s tempting to just revoke its GA status and remove it from the list, but although we are encouraged as editors to be bold, this approach (known to some as "bold delisting") is not recommended good practice. There are many reasons why a listed article might not meet the assessment criteria—it’s always possible that it never did, and was passed in error, but more likely the criteria have changed or the article quality has degraded since its original assessment. Either way, we should treat its reassessment with no less tact and patience than we would a fresh nomination.

This, in fact, provides a good starting point for the delisting process. Approach the article as though it has been nominated for GA review. Read it and the GA criteria carefully, and provide a full reassessment on the article talk page. Explain where and why the article no longer meets the criteria, and suggest remedies.

Having explained why the article no longer meets current GA criteria, allow its editors time to fix it! In keeping with the above approach, it may help to treat the article as on hold. There is no need to tag it as such, but give editors a reasonable deadline, and consider helping out with the repair work. Bear in mind that more flexibility may be required than for a normal hold—the editors did not request or expect your reassessment and will probably have other projects taking up their time. They may not have worked on the article for months or even years, and at worst the article may have been abandoned and its authors no longer active. As always, communication is the key. It sometimes helps to post messages to relevant WikiProjects (found at the top of the article talk page), or to contact editors directly (this tool is useful for identifying active editors for any given article).

Only once the above process has run its course, and sufficient improvement has not been forthcoming, is it time to think about delisting the article. Communicate your final decision on the article talk page, even if there was no response to your reassessment and hold, and take the time to fill in the various edit summaries on the article talk and GA list pages to ensure the delisting is transparent and trackable. If you have any doubts about your final decision, you can list the article at Good article reassessment or contact one of the GA mentors, who will be happy to advise.

Article reassessment is perhaps the single most controversial function of our WikiProject, and the one with the most potential to upset and alienate editors. Yet it is one of the most necessary too, since without the ability to revoke an article’s status we would be unable to maintain quality within the project. However, if we approach reassessment sensitively and with the goal of improving articles to the point where sanctions are unnecessary, we will ensure that delisting is the last resort, not the first.

Delisting instructions

From the Editors

As we near the 4,000 Good Articles milestone, the project continues to grow and to gain respect in the Wikipedia community. Nevertheless, we continue to have a large backlog. If every member of WikiProject Good Articles would review just one article each day during the month of April, the backlog would be eliminated!

Please leave any comments or feedback regarding this issue here.

Contributors to this Issue

Dr. Cash (Lead Editor, Distributor)
OhanaUnited (GA Sweeps and Did You Know correspondent)
EyeSerene (Article)

Improving Wikipedia one article at a time since 2005!

WikiProject Good Articles: Open Tasks This project identifies, organizes and improves good articles on Wikipedia.
Nominations: Impalement arts • Backlash (2007) • Sam Cowan • Sphinx Head • Fort Jackson (Virginia) Reassessment: Madonna (entertainer) • Sweeps / List: references (All Categories), image tags (All Categories), article quality (All Categories) Possible GAs Needing References: Clarinet • Carleton University • Appalachian Mountains Task forces: Project quality • Unreferenced GA
Good article criteria \| Statistics \| GAN Report \| Changes log Nominations queue: 213 articles (42 of them are on hold) as of 08:00, 11 June 2008 \| edit

Verification for Eagle Scouts page

You can verify that I am an Eagle Scout using the following link. www.sportsdds.com/jefferson.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.131.40 (talk) 22:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

If you say so, I will not argue with a higher authority. Are you still active in Scouts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.131.40 (talk) 22:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Hehe...to bad editing on wikipedia does'nt count as notible. ;) lol. 74.72.131.40 (talk) 22:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Jefferson

lol...your about page is quite nice, love your photobucket pictures

I'm ESTJ and your pretty funny. Spanish 0 ;).lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.131.40 (talk) 22:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol...you identify as a lesbian, i love how thats right next to the Boy Scout boxes. wow. That made my day... ;. Btw, I to am a trumpet player Kurtcool2 (talk) 22:46, 9 April 2008

Can you let me in on the joke please? P.S. Your really good at this stuff —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurtcool2 (talk • contribs) 22:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Que? Kurtcool2 (talk) 22:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I joined a wiki projecy the second I logged on Kurtcool2 (talk) 23:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

why are you watching my page? Kurtcool2 (talk) 23:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Its ok, lol, i'm watching yours as well. Kurtcool2 (talk) 20:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

you've got mail!

Message responded to at User talk:Travellingcari, {{talkback}} disabled. -MBK₀₀₄ 15:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Nav bar

Hello! and sorry for so long in making a single header. Well please see this one which I am working on, it's still not complete. If you have any reservations against this one please tell me so, that I can remove them. I will remove this copy of yours once you give an "OK!" signal. Thanks! --SMS ^Talk 04:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --SMS ^Talk 05:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Slamdunk09

Hello, MBK004. As a prospective future administrator, I would like to respectfully request your input on my recent response to the vandal Slamdunk09. (I'm asking you because you were the administrator who blocked this user.) Did I increase the level of warning at an appropriate rate? Was it too fast or too slow? I just wanted to get an opinion from somebody who is a bit more experienced than myself. Thank you for your time! Paradoxsociety (talk) 19:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Jordan (Katie Price)

Sorry about that edit to the Jordan (Katie Price) article. I saw that one of the editors had made a number of vandalism edits and went back in the history to grab what I thought was the last "good" edit. While I was doing that, you must have already reverted the vandalism and then I just chose the wrong version of the article. I made a poor choice of article versions but wasn't intentionally vandalizing the article. I think if you look at my edit history, you'll see I'm not a vandal. Dismas|^(talk) 19:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit on MPLM

How can I go back and add the edit summary?-Basketball123456 (talk) 01:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Lucy Pinder

Hi there

I see you recently were making some changes to this page, in particular the pictures used. I have actually been trying to get some advice on uploading pics, because for the life of me, i cant figure out what is and isnt acceptable as an upload. there is SO much information on the FAQ pages, and essentially i have a problem with the licensing aspect. I have access to several more "encyclopaedic" images of Lucy, rather than the current one used for the article, which I feel are more appropriate. I don't think it is entirely necessary to have her posing, do you?

whats your position on this, and can you help?δ²_{(Talk to me!)} 16:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

BCAD - thank you!

		Military history service award
		By order of the coordinators, for your good work assessing B-class military history articles, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Service Award. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 18:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

		Military history service award
		By order of the coordinators, for your great work assessing B-class military history articles, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Service Award. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 18:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

		Military history service award
		By order of the coordinators, for your excellent work assessing B-class military history articles, I hereby award you this this Military history WikiProject Service Award. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 18:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your message

I know. There is an explination for you on User:NanohaA'sYuri's talk page, if you are interested. Sorry. 129.108.96.45 (talk) 02:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Concerning US Airways edit

I reviewed the order, and US Airways isn't mentioned. The guy who put it there is a liar.User:Seanwarner86 (talk)

Horsesam

Blocked indef now. Thanks. MBisanz ^talk 05:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

News! Tag & Assess 2008 is coming ...

Milhist's new drive – Tag & Assess 2008 – goes live on April 25 and you are cordially invited to participate. This time, the task is housekeeping. As ever, there are awards galore, plus there's a bit of friendly competition built-in, with a race for bronze, silver and gold wikis! You can sign up, in advance, here. I look forward to seeing you on the drive page! All the best, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 13:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

One Stripe (200 articles)	Two Stripes (400 articles)	Three Stripes (600 articles)	Tireless Contributor Barnstar (1000 articles)	Chevrons (2000 articles)
Working Man's Barnstar (3000 articles)	Barnstar of Diligence (4000 articles)	Third place overall	Second place overall	First place overall

thank spam

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 194 supporting, 9 opposing, and 4 neutral.

Your kindness and constructive criticism is very much appreciated. I look forward to using the tools you have granted me to aid the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers, Anthony and Acalamari for their nominations.

Thank you again, VanTucky

Vasa (ship)

Within the last 40 or so minutes, the IP Address 71.37.155.224 has replaced the entire page with retarded...well, stuff at least three times. He has also been vandalizing a growing number of other pages. Is there something that can be done to stop it from happening again? Cromdog (talk) 01:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Done User was reported to WP:AIV and blocked. Parsecboy (talk) 01:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Article rating

Hello MBK004, I saw your edit summary on the Attacotti article talk page, so I added the most relevant pictures I could find. You're welcome to have another look, and if these additions won't do, suggestions are welcome, as there is nothing factually known about the Attacotti beyond what is quoted in the article. (And candidly, I thought that some project banners might be removed, but didn't want to act on that POV) Regards, Notuncurious (talk) 23:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles May Newsletter

The May Newsletter for WikiProject Good Articles has now been published. Dr. Cash (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles Newsletter

The WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
Volume I, No. 7 - May 2008

April issue | June issue

Project News

There are currently 4,050 Good Articles listed at WP:GA.

The backlog at Good Article Nominations is 195 unreviewed articles. Out of 227 total nominations, 16 are on hold, 14 are under review, and two are seeking a second opinion. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article or three as soon as you have a chance!

The oldest unreviewed articles are: Fighting Tommy Riley, Brock Lesnar, Cluj-Napoca, Wolf's Rain, Brian Kendrick, and North and South (TV serial).

The categories with the largest backlogs are: Theatre, film and drama (45), Sports and recreation (34), Music (18), Transport (15), World history (14), Politics and government (13), and Places (12).

The backlog at Good Article Reassessment currently stands at 17 articles up for re-review.

GAN Reviewer of the Month

Noble Story (talk · contribs) is the GAN Reviewer of the Month for April, based on the assessments made by Dr. Cash on the number and thoroughness of the reviews made by individual reviewers each week. Noble Story joined Wikipedia on May 16, 2007. He is a big fan of the Houston Rockets, and edits many related articles, as well as articles on basketball in general. Congratulations to Noble Story (talk · contribs) on being April's GAN Reviewer of the Month!

Other outstanding reviewers during the month of April include:

Member News

There are now 212 members of WikiProject Good Articles! Welcome to the 17 new members that joined during the month of April:

This WikiProject, and the Good Article program as a whole, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

GA Topic

Do you know what a GA topic is? If you are not nodding your head, or don't know what I'm talking about, then you should pay attention to this article.

There are ten GA top-level topics (but you will spot the eleventh as this article goes along). These topics are: Arts, Language and literature, Philosophy and religion, Everyday life, Social sciences and society, Geography and places, History, Engineering and technology, Mathematics, and Natural sciences. Each of these topics are further narrowed down to more specific topics. For example, Arts can be narrowed down to Art and architecture, Music, and Theatre, film and drama. But let's not get into sub-topics in this article because of its depth.

Now you will probably ask, "I already knew this, so what is your point?" What I want to illustrate is that some people often forget a step when they promote an article to GA. After they have posted their review in the article talk page, added the article name to the corresponding topic in the good article page, increased the GA count by 1, and added the {{GA}} to article talk page, many reviewers tend to forget to add the topic parameter in {{GA}} or {{ArticleHistory}}. You can browse the topic parameter abbreviations at on this page as well as what each top-level GA topic means, because sometimes it can be chaotic and confusing to pick a topic. For example, should On the Origin of Species be placed under the Natural Science topic (because it's related to evolution), or under the Language and Literature topic (because it is a book)? The correct answer is to place it under Language and literature topic, because its categorization as a proper title supercedes other categories.

Let's go back to the page that shows GA topics; does anyone spot the eleventh topic? Yes, Category:Uncategorized good articles is the 11th topic, only it shouldn't be there. Articles that do not have a topic parameter in either {{GA}} or {{ArticleHistory}} will be placed in this category. The topic "Uncategorized" is not very informative, is it? So if you have time, you can consider cleaning up the articles that are left in this category and move them to the appropriate category by adding a topic parameter.

That's it for this month, I hope you learned a little from it.

GA Sweeps Update

The GA Sweeps process is progressing nicely! During the month of April, a total of 26 articles were reviewed. Of that total, 15 were found to continue to meet the GA criteria, and two were delisted. There are currently six articles that are still on hold in this process, awaiting revisions. One article was exempted from review because it was promoted to FA. Two articles were exempted from review because they were already delisted by another member in the community.

We are once again recruiting new sweeps participants. Candidates should be very strong and comfortable in reviewing GA and familiar with the GA processes and criteria. If you are interested, please contact OhanaUnited for details.

Did You Know...

...that there are slightly less than twice as many Good Articles as Featured Articles?
...that the total number of Good Articles and Featured Articles combined is 6,085?
...that different languages have different symbols representing GA? (Alemannic uses , Bavarian uses , Czech and French use , Estonian, Icelandic, and Swedish use , Esperanto and German use , Polish, Spanish, and Turkish use , Portuguese uses , Russian uses , Ukrainian uses )

Note: Lithuanian and Serbian have their own symbol but only uploaded locally. Other languages not listed above either have the same symbol as english or they don't have GA process.

From the Editors

There is currently a debate on adding a small green dot to the top right corner of all Good Articles that pass the criteria, similar to the small bronze star that is added to the top right corner of Featured Articles. Members of WikiProject Good Articles are encouraged to participate in the debate on this page.

Please leave any comments or feedback regarding this issue here.

Contributors to this Issue

Dr. Cash (Lead Editor, Distributor)
OhanaUnited (Article, GA Sweeps and Did You Know correspondent)

Improving Wikipedia one article at a time since 2005!

WikiProject Good Articles: Open Tasks This project identifies, organizes and improves good articles on Wikipedia.
Nominations: Impalement arts • Backlash (2007) • Sam Cowan • Sphinx Head • Fort Jackson (Virginia) Reassessment: Madonna (entertainer) • Sweeps / List: references (All Categories), image tags (All Categories), article quality (All Categories) Possible GAs Needing References: Clarinet • Carleton University • Appalachian Mountains Task forces: Project quality • Unreferenced GA
Good article criteria \| Statistics \| GAN Report \| Changes log Nominations queue: 213 articles (42 of them are on hold) as of 08:00, 11 June 2008 \| edit

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVI (April 2008)

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New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 02:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

ORIANA

Why did you delete my PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE information?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boeingaircrafts (talk • contribs) 02:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Question about reversion of a minor edit

Hi MBK004,

I haven't been here for a while and just now saw that you reverted a minor edit that I made on the Buzz Aldrin page and left a message on my UserTalk page as follows:

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Buzz Aldrin, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. -MBK₀₀₄ 01:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I am just curious as to why you left that message when all I did was edit the first sentence to include Mr. Aldrin's mother's name since the first sentence says that he "was born to..." and then named only his father. Surely, he was born to both his mother and his father, so I guess I just don't quite understand why you reverted it and left a message saying that it "did not appear to be constructive". Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this. [[[User:Jazz2006|Jazz2006]] (talk) 00:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)]

I got your reply on my talk page, thanks. I will add a reliable source - there are many. It would have been useful if you had simply asked for a reliable source initially instead of simply saying that "it did not appear to be constructive". Alternatively, it would have been useful if you simply added a [needs citation] tag, but thanks for the explanation. {Jazz2006 (talk) 01:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)}

Highway 35 in Texas.

Hi, MBK004, I got a message from you about citing the things I added on State Highway 35 in Texas.. It's kind of hard to cite things on what I put about the highway when I live a block from the highway and travel it every day. I will try and cite what I can but just about everything I have put is what I see everyday or what I have known forever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.70.193 (talk) 22:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

USMC page

You reverted Fliegerfaust's edits incorrectly. If you click on the image to view it in large size, the soldier is quite clearly wearing Cpl. rank and wearing a nametape that says Lucas. I therefore reverted your edit, as the source is clearly included within the image. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 02:40, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Wunderlich

How come Wunderlich Intermediate School hasn't been deleted, but Krimmel Intermediate was? I even see that you edited it when I checked the last time it had been edited in the history. --Obaidz96 (talk • contribs • count) 03:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

USS Princeton (CG-59)

Why you added a section tag in the article? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

But do you think the article USS Princeton (CG-59) has enough information like the other to be broken into sections? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

your message to me

hi, idk how to cite stuff but Kirsten Storms confirmed it herself to my friend at an RJA show, and it was confirmed by rja's lead singers wife's best friend on the bands message boards... —Preceding unsigned comment added by YourGuardianAngel2 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok...Ummm idk how i can get you factual stuff but, considering it came from Kirsten herself i figured that it was safe to put up because she had a huge rock on her hand —Preceding unsigned comment added by YourGuardianAngel2 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

hmm....different places are already confirming it...he's changed his myspace status to engaged, she talkes to him about getting the ring resized on his myspace, and she changed her status to engaged on her fansite —Preceding unsigned comment added by YourGuardianAngel2 (talk • contribs) 03:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)