User talk:MarmadukePercy

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Hello, MarmadukePercy, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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[edit] Levett

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[edit] Leavitt

I've noticed you adding links to articles about Dudley Leavitt to a bunch of different New Hampshire articles. Most of the ones I've seen were added to articles about towns. Since the links are to information about Leavitt or his Farmer's Almanack, they aren't about the towns. Links should be to information directly related to the article you put them on - take a look at the guideline on external links for more information. You might also consider creating Dudley Leavitt (writer) or something similar. But please don't keep adding the links to inappropriate articles. Thanks, and happy editing!! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC) Sorry, as a new user I should have read the guidelines more closely. Many thanks for your suggestion.MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing help

Just one quick dumb question. If one is attempting to edit a page (add info), sometimes when one is finished, the edit omits much of what was on the page to begin with. (If that makes sense.) Is there something I'm doing wrong? Again, many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Hm. I'm not quite sure I understand your question? There is a difference when editing between clicking "edit this page" up at the top of the screen and clicking the little "edit" that shows up be each section header. Is that what you're talking about? Go ahead and reply here - I've watchlisted your page. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 20:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I hadn't noticed the difference before between the "edit this page" at the top of the screen and the little "edit" that shows up at each section header. Thank you much for taking the time to point that out to me!MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem! Glad to help :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Again, many thanks! Also, just one more dumb question. If one is editing an article (that one has originated), and another user begins editing your revisions at the same time, is it okay to continue adding or monkeying with it? Or should you go ahead and let the other user finish their edits before you add more? (Again, if this makes sense. Sorry for the unfamiliarity with all things wikipedian!)
Sorry to cause a few clashes but I was trying to help as you are relatively new and the sooner we can get the basics right the better before some Del-boy comes along. Actually you were lucky to get Ukexpat on the new article check as he is very constructive - someone else might have splatted it big time. Anyway note what I have done - which is to include a para for references, some basic categories and links to relevant articles. I have split out the lead sentence and added dates. I tend to create articles in word with at least these aspects covered and then paste the whole lot in. I will leave it for a while and maybe come back and put in the in text sitations and zap all the splats. All the best Motmit (talk) 21:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
That's fine. Thank you for the help and the advice. Sorry for my unfamiliarity with the ways things work. Best regards MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
no probs - glad to help - it took me a while and I'm still learning. Motmit (talk) 21:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Again, many thanks! MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Just another tip - put something on your user page, even if its just a full stop or something. Red users come second to IP numbers as suspicious editors. Take your time to have as much fun as you like with the user page. Motmit (talk) 21:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Again, many thanks for all your help! MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
See - we're a bunch of helpful people around here!
Regarding your question on footnotes - I suspect what you were running in to was not closing the reference. So here's how you would write one:
Text.<ref name="aref">Smith, John (1999). My Fabulous Book, Random House.</ref>
The closing tag is that last </ref>. Without it, the system doesn't know when the ref ends. If that wasn't the problem, leave an example on my talk page and I'll be glad to check. Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 23:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Wow, no kidding, people are amazingly helpful here. Thank you for that advice on the footnotes. That was exactly the problem.MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Further help

If you look above the edit box, there is a row of icons. Click on the one on the extreme right and it puts in the start and end ref marker. Replace the dummy text by your link. Leave a space and put in a non computerese description. Surround your whole text with single square brackets. Then make sure there is a Reflist entry under References. If not click on the blue entry for it below the edit box. I will leave the Parnes work for you to try. (Have done Fox Talbot) Regards Motmit (talk) 08:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Once again, *many* thanks for your help!MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I got the hang of putting in the footnote, thanks. But another dumb question: how does one put in the Reflist down below? Is there a special icon for that or...? Again, thanks for your patience!MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
One of two options is available for this. Either:

== References ==
<references />

Or:

== References ==
{{reflist}}

Either of those will do - the second one is generally used for when you have more than 5 references to list, as it makes the text smaller. You can try any of these things out at the WP:Sandbox, pages that are open to editing and where you can add or try out tags, banners, code, whatever, all without touching a "live" article :) Hope that helps! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:54, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you again for your help, especially reminding me of the sandbox feature. I will try to give it all a whirl a bit later today. Many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that does work! Thank you! Now I need to go back and clean up some of my other messes, like Palmes! :-) MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
To SatyrTN & Motmit: Many thanks for explaining the footnote process to me. I now am trying to go back to previous articles to which I contributed and insert the correct footnotes. Thanks for your patience and taking the time.MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
File upload question: Just wondering how one goes about posting a jpg file to a wikipedia page after the image is uploaded to wikipedia? Many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Take a look at Help:Image#Embedding internal images. :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
As always, many, many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 02:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Listable references? I was wondering what the wikipedia rule is for listable references? In general, I try to list books whose copyright is way out-of-date, just to be safe. But what's the rule for content on current websites, for instance, for a2a.org.uk (Access to Archives, a British site)? As always, many thanks for all the help!MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Here's another dumb question. If one wants to post an illustration from a book (rough woodcut), and the book is on google books (and way out from under copyright, having been published in 1628), how does one go about reproducing the image? Is it possible? Again, thanks for your assistance and forbearance!MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

That's not a dumb question - that's a pretty specific one. You'd probably do best asking that one at WP:MCQ. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually I think it's okay on the copyright issue, but I can't figure out how one transfers the image from the page at googlebooks into some sort of format for transfer to wikipedia. (If I'm explaining that correctly....) Again, many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Hm. Screenshot? There isn't (afaik) a way to simply save the page and upload from there. My guess is that screenshot / screen capture software is needed. The Village Pump would be a good place to ask what others know. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 17:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, I will check there.MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Charles Walcott (MP)

Your recent contribution(s) to the Wikipedia article Charles Walcott (MP) did not provide specific references or sources. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a drive to improve the quality of Wikipedia by encouraging editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. Editors may choose to remove material you have contributed if it is not verifiable. Please provide specific references in your contributions to any books, articles, websites or other reliable sources that will allow people to verify the content. You can use a citation method listed at inline citations that best suits each article. • Gene93k (talk) 16:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, will do.MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: A big thank you

Hey, no problem at all. You know where I am if you ever need a hand with anything. J Milburn (talk) 18:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

You've been a great help and it is much appreciated!MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

Hi, MarmadukePercy! Just a quick note for you on your recent additions to Deerfield, New Hampshire: Unless the information is controversial, there isn't a need for three different citations. Usually one is just fine. In addition, you might want to take a look at WP:RS, in regards to what's a good resource. For instance, I'm pretty sure that "GenWeb" source doesn't quite fit the Wikipedia concept of "Reliable Source". The "Ray's Place" site is likewise questionable. In context, it's not a big deal - the general history of Deerfield is not a controversial subject by any stretch of the imagination! But I thought you should be aware of what is considered "Reliable". Thanks! Glad to see you around! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 21:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks, as always, for your suggestions, Satyr! I will try to keep the footnoting to a minimum. I just figured I would give people something to go on. Thanks also for your suggestions about GenWeb. I tend never to use such resources, and mostly to rely on whatever I can turn up on Googlebooks since there's so much great stuff on there now. Again, your thoughts are always appreciated!MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
One minor suggestion with respect to Google Books - if you add a link to a book on Google Books, make sure it's a public domain book. Otherwise, a reference like {{cite book}} can be helpful, though it doesn't link to the copyrighted text. Hope that helps! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 21:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
One other question SatyrTN. If one makes a contribution to a wikipedia page, and that contribution is subsequently excised as not being supported by documentation, then what does one do? Reply to the talk page of the original article? Post to the talk page of the person who excised the information? Or....? (Again, many thanks for the elucidation of correct wikipedia protocol!)MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I recommend posting on the talk page of the article. If there is no discussion after a few days, re-add the material. Once it's been removed, though, the burden is on you to find a reference or source if it is questioned. You might also take a look at WP:BRD, which has a bit of info on just this topic. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 17:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for clarifying that. I will have a look at the page you suggested as well.MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Bakker

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions, including your edits to Jim Bakker. However, please be aware of Wikipedia's policy that biographical information about living persons must not be libelous. Any controversial statements about a living person added to an article, or any other Wikipedia page, must include proper sources. Thank you. JGHowes talk - 20:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. What I added to the article was not libelous and can be supported by TIME magazine's stories at the time, written by religion writer Dick Ostling. The setting within Bakker's offices was observed, and the quote was taken directly from an interview granted by Jim and Tammy Faye. Hope this helps.MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Thx for the explanation. I've replied on the article talk page here JGHowes talk - 22:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] William Jarvis

There are two problems with listing Jarvis in a notable people section (he really shouldn't be listed elsewhere), as far as I see it:

  • William Jarvis is a disambiguation page
  • There is no article on the William Jarvis that you're talking about.

Easy solution: write an article on the guy, prove his notability, and put him back. I don't know anything about the man, so I can't help you there. Nyttend (talk) 03:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I will write a piece on William Jarvis, thanks. I do consider it noteworthy that the citizens of Vermont and the citizens of Weathersfield, who do presumably know something about the guy, decided to erect a highway marker in his honor. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replied on my talk page. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 22:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I've realised that I missed the thing about how any person recognised as of great significance in his/her field (i.e. sheep ranching in the USA) is considered notable. Nyttend (talk) 00:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
William Jarvis was far more than a 'sheep farmer.' He served several years as U.S. Consul General in Portugal by appointment of President Jefferson. Subsequently, he was considered one of the most powerful Republicans in the Connecticut River Valley and wielded a great deal of political power, according to recent histories of the area (published by Cambridge University Press). I think your scope is far too narrow. Jarvis should be considered within the scope of the times and in terms of Vermont history.MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
The thing is that being a diplomat doesn't make you automatically notable (see this page for discussion that I interpret as ending that way), but being a revolutionary in his field (sheep farming) is enough. You say that he was far more than a sheep farmer: do you think that the article should be moved to William Jarvis (diplomat) or something like that? As I said before, I didn't know anything about the guy than you told me, and the only thing you told me that made me realise that he was notable (even if we only found one source about him) was the sheep. Thanks for digging up more! Nyttend (talk) 01:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. Here is a page that gives quite a bit more background on Jarvis, whose home still stands in Weathersfield Bow. Interestingly, Jarvis, who once traded across Europe in all sorts of commodities, later owned a textile mill in Quechee, Vt., that manufactured a broad cloth suit for Henry Clay, as a token from the people of Vermont to the man who worked to enact a tariff to protect their interests.William Jarvis HouseMarmadukePercy (talk) 01:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I see you went ahead and wrote a stub about him. I will add to that.MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I tried to tell you that I'd written an article; apparently I wasn't clear enough. That's why I was reasoning as I was up above, and why I asked whether the article should be moved. Sorry for the confusion, and thanks for preparing to expand it! Nyttend (talk) 23:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm wikifying it right now, but the article needs to be broken up some into sections, like early life, political career, sheep info, etc. Do you have more info for his early life? AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 06:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help. Yes, I agree, it does need to be broken up into sections. I do have more info on his early life but that'll have to wait for tomorrow. Again, thank you.MarmadukePercy (talk) 06:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Charlemagne Tower

Thanks for taking on that challenge. You're fairly new to Wikipedia, so feel free to bounce any questions off me. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 01:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I thought of the book title Eats Shoots ... the other day when supplying a badly needed comma for an article, but I just enjoy the title; I'm not sure I need the whole book. Chris the speller (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Agree with you there. I liked the old AP stylebook myself. :-) MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yorkshire Fairfax family

Without some hopping around to different topics, this edit doesn't make much sense. Tedickey (talk) 17:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I see your point, thank you.MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
no problem Tedickey (talk) 18:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Hey, read this. I hope that helps. APK yada yada 21:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for doing that! I will try to have a look and sort it out.MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
One other question, if you have the time. I got an image from the Commons that I was attempting to use on the page Christopher Levett, but even though I think I have the phrasing correct, the image doesn't upload. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you!MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC) Cancel that question! I figured it out, thanks.MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I tagged the article with 4 projects. I left messages on the project pages, so hopefully more people will help you with the article. APK yada yada 00:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.MarmadukePercy (talk) 15:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Levett

Thanks for the message on my talk page. No problem, the article is progressing nicely. Please note that the article has been moved to Robert Levet (one "t") which is the more common spelling. Robert Levett is now an indirect link to the article. So, whether someone looks for the name with one or two "t"s, they'll find it. Thanks, and good editing. Truthanado (talk) 00:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help. And I agree with the recategorization of Robert Levet also.MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lobby

Thanks for the comment- its funny how interests keep crossing. Regards Motmit (talk) 16:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. That piece was well done. And you're right, it is funny how interests keep crossing.Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Berkely Levett

Yup, that sorts the issue quite neatly! thanks for responding so quickly, and kudos on the good work with articles like that. thanks again! Ironholds (talk) 11:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The tone of the article, however, is still a bit off; its written more like an essay than an encyclopedia article, i.e "it wasnt suprising that..." and so on. it should have neutral tone. Ironholds (talk) 14:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Hi In those two cases I simply missed the copyright box again because it is so wide that the click-on field disappears when the frame is smaller. Took a while to work out how to fix it but managed. When it comes to images, KIS is the word and I stick to the simplest own- creation follow the arrows path, If I ever figure any more I will load a pic of good old Hamar. Regards Motmit (talk) 16:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for the advice. I'm still scratching my head about commons. Would love to see a pic of Hamar. Have seen one of the caricatures (drawn).
Incidentally, have you ever seen a pic of Sibton Abbey in Suffolk? I'm quite curious about it.[1] Thanks again, my friend.Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't know much about Sibton, although we both had an interest at Roche for different reasons. One of my problems at the moment is trying to get at an image which is loaded on Japanese Wiki. If it was on Commons I could get at it, but there is no way I can get it there myself! Regards Motmit (talk) 18:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Wow, the Japanese commons? Don't even go there! lol Seriously, I just got a message on Commons written in German. (I don't happen to speak Deutsch so it was lost on me....) :-) Good luck with that, though! As far as Sibton goes, it was the only Cistercian monastery in East Anglia. Today it's a ruin in private hands, those of the Levett-Scrivener family, one of whom married one of your de Lotbiniere folks.[2] Another case of our interests overlapping. Out of curiosity, what interested you about Roche? Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:47, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Oops, on rereading your message, I see you're differentiating between Japanese commons and wiki. Well, I would be hopeless at either one. :-) MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I went to Sibton Abbey a couple of times as a teenager with Arabella Levett-Scrivener. It was very beautiful but completely ruined. I remember it being a bit of a trek, as it's not near the road. Idyllic. Wish I had a photo. Kat Montagu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.196.228 (talk) 02:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Fascinating. Thank you for relating that story. I too wish you had a photo! Thanks again. Best regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Charlemagne Tower

Thanks much for the assist! Bowie60 (talk) 19:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

You're most welcome. You did a nice job with that page. Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)