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[edit] Template:Politics of Scotland
Problems over the image to be used - this seems to be "festering" into an ongoing debate. I think it is quite clear in the WP:FAIRUSE policy that we cannot use the Royal Standard, the Coat of Arms or indeed anything else which specifically is the property of the Crown in a Template - it may be used on the relevant page. Thanks for your support on this one, hopefully it can be resolved to people's satisfaction. Davidkinnen 08:08, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Non-confessional
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[edit] Gordon S Brown
Hi,
You have just reverted my Gordon Brown disambiguation entry, before I'd even posted the article about this person! As well as having been on Horsham council for some years, he has published several books on railways and railway preservation and, i believe other subjects besides. What were your grounds for deciding he is a non-notable person? Thank you. regards, Lynbarn 09:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Andy Murray
I'm not in an edit war. I moved GB above Scotland twice, which it should be, and other people have removed references etc. You anyway seem to have caused it, I move GB to the top and a perfectly good reason is given on the talk page and you moved it back citing no edit summary as the reason. Common sense should surely be used here, ad your edit was needless. And please don't move Scotland back to the top or it will be you getting edit waring, as this has been discussed on the talk page and as nobody has given me a good reason why GB should be under Scotland. So if you keep moving it back without reason surley it is you who should be warned. JimmyMac82 09:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Brian Souter
It's like talking to a spin doctor. I could use some help reasoning, and I may RfC as ludicrous as it seems that I'd need to for such a blatantly POV article. - superβεεcat 17:34, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Private Investigations
Hi - inspired by recent awesome activity (more than 2 active users!) on the Scottish island front, I have taken a brief break from editing to create the draft of a WikiProject to cover this. The number of editors is small, but the scope is large and I think it might be useful to have a bit more focus to help potential new editors get involved. There is a draft of the project page here and of the navigation template at the top of this page, (both shamelessly plagiarised from the assumed parent Wikiproject). I notice the glad announcement on your User page re WP:SCO that the "consultation period was successful". However I can't see anything in the gudielines that requires this. Nonetheless, I'd like to be polite. Should it be raised at WP:SCO for example, or can it just be announced? It would ideally have a shortcut e.g. WP:ISLE, and I'm assuming that can just be created without further ado too. Any advice gratefully received. Ben MacDui (Talk) 09:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
I see you are busy winding up the Guillemots - I'm off to make the above 'live' asap, but any further comments or input when you have time is welcome. Ben MacDui (Talk) 17:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scotland Portal
Hi Mais, I mentioned some time ago that I was disappointed that the DYK section had been dropped from the portal. I've been thinking about this for a while and I think adding it back in would be a big improvement. All the other featured national portals carry a DYK section in a prominent location. There's some other improvements that I think would be useful too.
The colour scheme is very weak. The header bars really should be bolder. Again, almost all the other featured national portals use some colour from the national flag for this element. I'd suggest reverting back to the blue from the saltire as it used to be. The quotation and category sections are very loosely formatted, taking up too much space and could be tightened a bit.
Rather than being bold and steaming ahead with the changes, I thought I'd seek your opinion first as one of the chief architects of the page. I've worked up a draft layout showing suggested changes here. I couldn't get the enclosing light blue enclosing border to format properly in my sub pages, but it would remain in the real portal. I've mocked it up here.
Your thoughts would be welcome. Cheers. --Cactus.man ✍ 13:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] E-mail
I sent you an e-mail off-wiki. Can you please confirm that you got it? Phil Sandifer 17:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- That's odd - it let me send the e-mail, which it shouldn't do if you didn't give it an e-mail address. Ah well. Here's what I sent:
Re: Royal Scottish Geographic Society
I just got a request to look at this situation. Usually, in situations like this, I look at it, I see that the IP is a nutter, and I go about my business. But this time, I have to say, I think you're kind of in the wrong.
In the course of introducing the change of "British" to "Scottish", the IP doubled the length of the article, adding a huge amount of material. You subsequently changed the nationality with the unclear edit summary "link" and provided no explanation beyond that. When asked by the IP, you refused to answer, and have continued to refuse to answer.
I understand that you think the IP is edit warring, but look at his contributions - he's added a tremendous amount to the article, and has been a useful, helpful contributor. And your attitude towars him has had the effect of nearly driving him off of the project.
I would ask you, please, to go back to the discussion, explain to the editor why you reverted that change, and enter a discussion with him. While it seems like he can get a bit hot under the collar when provoked, I honestly think such discussion would prove fruitful. And as annoyed as you may be at anonymous IPs, we do, as a matter of Foundation policy, allow them to edit. That means they can validly ask for clarifications, explanations, etc. And for experienced users such as yourself to simply refuse to give any guidance to them is unacceptable.
-Phil Phil Sandifer 13:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scotland Article - Official Languages
Hi.
Your colleague, Ben Mac', appears to agree that Scotland's Offical Languages include Gaelic and Scots. However, nowhere can I find evidence to support either of you on this. Your last revision today cited an "International Treaty", (I'm assuming the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages is the treaty to which you refer), and "Domestic Legislation", (again I assume the Gaelic Language (Scotland) Act 2005).
I am not taking the micky here, (and I genuinely mean that), but have you actually read these documents? Either of them? Guess what - I have, and what is more, nowhere in either of these documents is the status of Offical Language conferred upon either Gaelic or Scots. There is no disputing they are languages in their own right and are recognised as such in both the domestic legislation and international treaties to which you refer. These are facts not open to any misinterpretation. However, the European Charter states under Article 1 that for the purposes of the Charter:
a. "regional or minority languages" means languages that are:
i. traditionally used within a given territory of a State by nationals of that State who form a group numerically smaller than the rest of the State's population; and
ii. different from the official language(s) of that State;
it does not include either dialects of the official language(s) of the State or the languages of migrants;
b. "territory in which the regional or minority language is used" means the geographical area in which the said language is the mode of expression of a number of people justifying the adoption of the various protective and promotional measures provided for in this Charter;
c. "non-territorial languages" means languages used by nationals of the State which differ from the language or languages used by the rest of the State's population but which, although traditionally used within the territory of the State, cannot be identified with a particular area thereof.
Article 2 – Undertakings
1. Each Party undertakes to apply the provisions of Part II to all the regional or minority languages spoken within its territory and which comply with the definition in Article 1.
2. In respect of each language specified at the time of ratification, acceptance or approval, in accordance with Article 3, each Party undertakes to apply a minimum of thirty-five paragraphs or sub-paragraphs chosen from among the provisions of Part III of the Charter, including at least three chosen from each of the Articles 8 and 12 and one from each of the Articles 9, 10, 11 and 13.
Nowhere in the 23 Articles of the Charter does it mention that the Charter itself confers Offical Status to any language specified by the 8 States, (Including the UK), who ratified the treaty with regard to those languages as defined in Article 1. As for the UK:
a) The United Kingdom declares, in accordance with Article 2, paragraph 2 and Article 3, paragraph 1, of the Charter that it will apply the following provisions for the purposes of Part III of the Charter to Welsh, Scottish-Gaelic and Irish.
Scottish-Gaelic – 39 paragraphs Article 8: Education Paragraphs 1a (i) 1b (i) 1c (i) 1d(iv) 1e (iii) 1f (iii) 1g 1h 1i 2 Total: 10
b) The United Kingdom declares, in accordance with Article 2, paragraph 1 of the Charter that it recognises that Scots and Ulster Scots meet the Charter’s definition of a regional or minority language for the purposes of Part II of the Charter. Period covered: 01/07/01 - The preceding statement concerns Article(s): 2, 3
None of the above paragraphs and sub-paragraphs relating to Scots or Gaelic to which the UK Govt. gave an undertaking to apply affords "Official Status" to either language - FACT. May I therefore refer you to the Wiki page for Official Languages and the Section Officially recognised minority languages.
With regard to the Gaelic Language (Scotland) Act 2005, it starts:
The Bill for this Act of the Scottish Parliament was passed by the Parliament on 21st April 2005 and received Royal Assent on 1st June 2005
An Act of the Scottish Parliament to establish a body having functions exercisable with a view to securing the status of the Gaelic language as an official language of Scotland commanding equal respect to the English language, including the functions of preparing a national Gaelic language plan, of requiring certain public authorities to prepare and publish Gaelic language plans in connection with the exercise of their functions and to maintain and implement such plans, and of issuing guidance in relation to Gaelic education.
This provides for the establishing of Bòrd na Gàidhlig which will have "functions exercisable with a view to securing the status of the Gaelic language as an official language of Scotland". Therefore the Act states both the intention and the means but does not itself confer the status of Official Language upon Gaelic. It will be for BnG to exercise its functions in order to secure Official Language status for Gaelic - FACT.
To insist therefore that both Scots and Gaelic are Official Languages is both erroneous and misleading. To do so repeatedly without apparently checking the facts is, well, you figure which adjective I should insert.
The case of Taylor v Haughney (1982) is also relevant. For links to that and the above, Google is your friend.80.41.226.135 21:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Category:Sporting siblings
Hi, I notice you added some people to this category, thanks. Just wondered if you would like to create pages for the brothers/sisters of Pascal Simon and Javier Otxoa if you have time so we can see who they are. Thanks. Joe p15 12:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Stalking
Hi Mais
I've had a quick look at your situation. It certainly looks like a determined campaign of stalking which is, of course, completely unacceptable. You say these users are all sockpuppets of User:Mallimak. How many of them have been positively confirmed by checkuser? I note that User:Mallimak is not currently blocked, but also that he's not edited with that account since October 2006. Looking through the list on the suspected sockpuppet page, the majority of IP addresses (including the last post you highlighted) resolve to BT Broadband, assigned in the ranges:
81.129.0.0 - 81.129.255.255 - 65,536 addresses 81.153.0.0 - 81.158.255.255 - 393,216 addresses 86.142.0.0 - 86.147.255.255 - 393,216 addresses 217.42.0.0 - 217.44.255.255 - 196,608 addresses
Whoever this character is, he's likely on a dynamic IP, so individual IP blocks will be ineffective. Range blocks may be an option, but given the possible number of potential users involved, is highly risky. It's not an area I have any expertise in, so I won't be performing any range blocks, sorry. You need to track down a range block guru :) Perhaps a message to WP:AN and / or the checkuser talk page looking for an experienced range block admin might help.
In the meantime, I'd suggest not rising to the bait. I know it's difficult to ignore, but just revert personal comments where necessary, remove your own talk page trolling etc (without expansive edit summaries, just "rv" if need be). Extensive and exasperated edit summaries are what these people feed on; In a similar vein to WP:DENY, this will deprive them the high of their own game by ignoring it. I had a minor episode of semi-stalking myself when I first started here, nothing along these lines though, so I understand how difficult it can be to ignore. In the short term though, it's the best policy - they will likely get bored and go away.
You can try reporting to BT abuse, but I suspect you'd be pissing into the wind, and your complaints will disappear into the black hole of teh internets aether :) Sorry I can't be of more help right now. Cheers. --Cactus.man ✍ 22:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Pardon the slow reply, haven't been quite as active of late. I'd agree with Cactus.man entirely, and second his advice throughout. Blocking large ranges of BT dynamic IPs doesn't look feasible to me, either (though perhaps if we started, their 'abuse' people might wake up and smell the decaff Earl Grey?). Feel free to contact me with specific IPs if they continue to be a problem, or else post to ANI, and refer to this discussion (or wherever else best concisely describes the problem). Alai 05:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vrable manse
I think it is already categorised. It has {{struct-stub}}. MurphiaMan 20:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Energy portal review
Hi Mais oui! Knowing that you have an interest in an unconnected featured portal, I wondered if you might like to comment on the one I've been working on - energy portal - which is now under consideration for featured status. Compared to other candidates it has had relatively few people contributing to the debate, despite being up for discussion for 2 months. If you have time perhaps you would like to take a look? The candidate page can be found here. Gralo 18:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Orcadian/Mallimak IPs
The account Mallimak hasn't been used in ten months, so blocking that wouldn't seem to serve much point. I can't practically do that much about the IPs, short of banning every anon editor using BT as an ISP (not necessarily a bad plan in my view, but not quite in line with blocking policy). I would be prepared to short-term block in the middle of a sustained spree of meaningless reverts as disruption, but the pattern seems to be a couple to a dozen of such, with an incivil comment thrown in as seasoning, and all over by the time anyone looks like doing anything about it. Blocking those after the effect will either have no effect at all, or catch some other BT customer who ends up wiht that IP address. To be frank, the per-instance substance of this doesn't seem significantly "worse" than many a routine editing dispute (sad though that may be to say), though it does look the persistence of it indicates that the main purpose of it at this stage is just to "wind you up". The best long term strategy is probably, then, not to be wound up by it (annoyingly trite and unsatisfactory as that may seem as advice). Alai 22:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I've blocked 81.129.16.82 for 24 hours, as it was recent enough to be justifiable on preventative grounds. The above comment essentially stands, though... Alai 16:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scots+BSL
Whether the latter is regional or not is a pretty trivial matter and certainly not justification for its total exclusion from the section while Scots sneaks in with no great justification. Both are recognised and i dont see how you can maintain one without also finding a place for the other. Neither should be in the section in the first place as neither are considered Official Languages. siarach 15:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] South Tyrol location
Now that South Tyrol has been moved to Province of Bolzano-Bozen, if you care, please add your opinion on the future of South Tyrol here: Talk:Province_of_Bolzano-Bozen#Whither_South_Tyrol.3F. — AjaxSmack 00:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
Thanks for your message, Mais oui! It's appreciated. I hope you'll continue your great work and remain as strong a personality as you always have been. Best regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 21:29, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Andy Murray's nationality
Hi Mais oui,
I could use your help on Andy Murray's wikipedia page. There is a moderator named "Dewarw" trying to push his own agenda. I have been threatened with a ban for reverting Murray's description to "Scottish". This man is attempting to abuse his power by making threats to push his own agenda.
Murray, as I am sure you know, has stated several times that he is Scottish and it is generally accepted that he considers himself Scottish first and foremost. I do not think moderators should be allowed to settle edit disputes with threats of a ban, particularly if facts do not support their own view. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, 82.40.19.192 18:57, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] South Tyrol
hello there Mais oui!, you once voted and showed interest on the topic of South Tyrol. Certain Italian users just can't seem to give the topic a rest and had the article moved with a sham vote to the Italian name. I am calling for that vote to be annulled or at least extended so that more can vote and the result be representative. Drop by the talk page or drop me a message if you would like to share your thoughts, I am interested in hearing from you. sincerely Gryffindor 04:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Darkieboy263
I notice you had a run in with Darkieboy236 - highly likely this is another sockpuppet of Lofty who is a traditional counties nutter. Similar edit patterns and user page.
- I am definitely NOT a TORY and I am certainly NOT a Christian, however, I do live in Lincoln. Darkieboy236 16:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject Scotland
Thanks for the reply & notification - Tharky has now agreed to remove the post-1707 monarchs (once we create the planned article List of British monarchs). GoodDay 19:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] IP troll
It seems out troll friend has now joined Darkieboy in his quest of having the Union flag in every singe infobox [1]--Barryob Vigeur de dessus 22:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nationality on motorsport articles
Please do not use regional flags in motorsport articles. Neither Scotland nor England have independent motorsport governing bodies and acccording to International Federation guidelines racing licenses are issued with the nationality as exhibited in a passport. This has already been discussed in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Motorsport, with a consensus for use of the British flag. The use of the Scottish flag in motorsport tables for drivers such as Jackie Stewart, Colin McRae or David Coulthard is as inappropriate as the use of the Asturian flag for Fernando Alonso or the Pennsylvania flag for Michael Andretti. --Pc13 22:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] English-Scottish border
Anglo is offensive word, this is reason please help me change to english-scottish border name please. thank you. YESYESandmanygoals 10:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Colin McRae
RE: your edit summary rm focus of disgraceful flag-waving; please have respect for the man's family; unbelievable that British nationalists are using this man's death to promote a flag he never used. I'm not a British Nationalist, and frankly I find your idea that I would be rather insulting. But the Colin McRae infobox is a WRC driver infobox, and since the WRC is run by the FIA, who do not recognise Scotland as a country, his flag shoudl remain as British. It is noted that he is Scottish in the first line of the article - in fact it's the first sentence. THAT is where it should be noted that he was Scottish, not the infobox. Also, deleting the info is NOT helpful. mattbuck 14:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] BT IPs winding you up.
I thought I answered that question on one of the previous "umpteen times" you posed it. Alai 03:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{User en-sc}}
- {{User en-sc}} is an outdated template, replaced by {{User en-gb-sct}}. In order to mark Category:User en-sc for speedy deletion per WP:CSD#C3, I had to empty the category by replacing the old teplate with the new one on each user's user page. This wasn't difficult, since there were only three of you.
- This practice is not uncommon. Wikipedia:WikiProject Deaf recently did the same with all Wikipedians who were using {{User ASL}} by editing their userpages and replacing them with {{User ase}}. Since the category is still marked for speedy deletion, I will replace the outdated template again. If you prefer, you may also use {{User en-gb-sct-N}} if you are a native speaker of Scottish English. Cheers! Taric25 08:54, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scots LD Metacolour
Hi Mais. Discussion was a while ago on the project page. I thought you had taken part in it at the time? Do you think I should start a new discussion on the template page? Galloglass 14:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Three revert rule block
This is longer than a normal block because of your previous blocks for edit-warring, and because some of your comments to Taric25 are aggressive. Sam Blacketer 16:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] When you're unblocked
Hello Mais oui, I've created the article List of British monarchs; the post-1707 monarchs (images) can be moved there (from List of English monarchs). GoodDay 23:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Native speaker, right?
Since you claim you created the en-sc userboxes, then you should be aware that your userpage claimed you were a native speaker of Scottish English. I have changed your userpage to reflect that you are a native speaker. In other words, I have changed {{User en-sc}}, which redirects to {{User en-gb-sct}}, on your userpage to {{User en-gb-sct-N}} to show you are a native speaker. Cheers! Taric25 22:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I just changed the userbox on your userpage per the consensus of the discussion at . If you have any questions, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Cheers! Taric25 12:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Speedy deletions of Scottish-related categories
See User talk:Anthony Appleyard#Speedy deletions of Scottish-related categories. Anthony Appleyard 08:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] A Man's A Man for A' That
Thanks for letting me know, i've fixed the article and warned the vandal in question.--JForget 17:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] User page edit
Hello. This note to explain my edit your reverted: the point was maintenance, so as to empty the Special:Whatlinkshere/PG Wodehouse which should be empty in its normal state. And since you had it piped to "Wodehouse", my fixing the underlying link wasn't changing anything to your page. Oh well, si j'avais su j'aurais pas venu. — Komusou talk @ 18:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] RE:BSW
I prolly did, but I don't remember. Long time since I covered Orkney stuff. There are one or two internet Orcadians, perhaps including the author of that orkneyjar website, who campaign on wiki for ideologically Norse inclined Orkney matters. In the main article itself I wrote "showed" and that was changed to "claimed" by one of those users (logged in here as Paul S), whereas no historian would say anything otherwise as Forsyth, an expert in Ogham inscriptions, did prove it conclusively. Many academics who work in the area will prolly tell you that the language of pre-Norse Orkney was prolly Goidelic Celtic, Irish or Gaelic, both because of that inscription (whose provenance is both Orcadian and low down the social scale) and because the northern isles and western isles on the whole share the same pre-Norse archaeological culture. Pictish in Orkney, whatever that is, is not attested and the only evidence for Pictish being the language there are Pictish stones, which is not lingustic evidence at all and in any case the only language Pictish stones ever have on them other than Latin is, again, Irish. Nevertheless, Pictish is what most published books still say and that would have to be left in the article. Because of the sensitivity of certain users to the idea of Orcadian Irish (having no Gaelic is the one thing that distinguishes Orkney historically from the rest of Scotland), it is best to keep it to no more than a qualified sentence. As for more to add ... maybe in a year when more published work is available for citation. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 07:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, they'd all be dead by now anyways. Seriously, I think it's just because it makes their history purer, simpler, and hence easier to get emotional about. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 07:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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- O, you gotta love wikipedia sometimes. It's funny that someone would use 18th century evidence to argue about 4th century influence from a non-existent language on a language that wasn't spoken there until the 9th or 10th centuries. I think there's another fringe scholar who argued that Orkney was speaking Germanic (Norse) from Roman times. English of course didn't exist until, by definition, it was spoken in England. The Germanic settlers, many of whom came from the later "Scandinavian" section of the late antique Germanic language continuum anyways, who settled south-eastern Britain either as Roman mercenaries or invaders would not have been linguistically identifiable as "English", and as English was still largely comprehensible with Norse in the 10th century, it is doubtful the people of Saxony and Denmark were incomprehensible to Norwegians in the 4th century. Between the 709 entry in the Irish annals "Bellum for Orcaibb in quo filius Artablair iacuit" (a battle over the Orkneymen was gained, in which the son of Artablair [a Scoto-Pictish name] was killed) and the clear emergence of the Norse earldom after the 9th century nothing is known of Orcadian history. Only two Celtic place-names in the northern isles can be identified, the semi-Celtic "Orkney" and "Shetland" themselves, and virtually all evidence of the Norn language comes from a time when it had already been open to a few centuries of influence from Scots (a descendant of the Old and Middle English). LOL, some people will publish anything. Maybe I'll use evidence of English and Gaelic terms in Mi'kmaq language to argue for 7th century BC English and Gaelic settlement in eastern Canada. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 11:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Oil and boundaries
Hi Mais Oui, do you have any thoughts on this: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 October 28#Category:Oil_fields_of_Scotland? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
You added that comment here please don't sign my name on comments I haven't made.--Padraig 17:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Standard Life
Hi, I noticed a bit of back and forth with the Standard Life article and the addition/removal of UK from the location. I posted a comment at Talk:Standard_Life#Location to ask what's going on. It would be good if you could comment as you have removed UK from the article many times while others keep adding it back. Thanks! JamminBen 04:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] AfD nomination of St Mungo's Primary School
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:91an Mandel Karlsson.jpg
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[edit] Charlestown
Hi, I noticed your interest in Fife and thought you might be able to clear something up. There are a number of references to ships being broken at Charlestown in the 1910-1950 period, but this location needs disambiguation. Its pretty clear to me that it means Charlestown, Fife in most RN cases, but I'm not sure if this is the same breaker as at Rosyth. Can you shed any light on it? -- LeadSongDog (talk) 21:08, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. Sorted out the question, they were separate but nearby. Ernest Cox, Gutter Sound, Rosyth, Scapa Flow, Shipbreaking all relate. LeadSongDog (talk) 14:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Infobox palaver
I note your discussion with BHG. I don't have much of an understanding of the politics of all this but let me know if you want any support or assistance. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 10:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scotland assessment
[[2]] Sorry - screwed up there. Regan123 (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Userbox Francophile
Hello. Do you realise that by your deletion on 29 November you have left an awful lot of Users with a redlink on their User page:
Please provide me with a copy of the deleted code, so that we can have our userbox back. I will bung it on my own subpage if necessary. Ta. --Mais oui! (talk) 08:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- While I wasn'tand am not overly concerned about the redlinks (users can remove at their discretion), I don't see a big issue with providing you with a copy of the code. Enjoy : ) - jc37 08:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Olympics
I've made changes to both articles, hopefully clearing it up.
The only way to separate the records would be to make a pre- and post-1924 entry from Great Britain. Trying to tease apart which Irishmen would today compete for Ireland and which would compete for Great Britain would be an impossible and improper. (few scaled flag poles to hoist Erin Go Bragh defended by an encampment of Irish and American athletes). I don't know if that would really be suitable. A more appropriate comparison than between the USSR and Finland. It's just left be. --sony-youthpléigh 12:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Image-Express2.jpg
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[edit] Uncivil Edit Summaries.
You have recently been removing UKGeo templates, and while I will not discuss the dispute at hand here in depth, I am leaving you a note asking why you refuse to discuss this on talk pages, but have been actively doing so, quite rudely, in your edit summaries. Examples: [4] [5] [6]. Please refrain from being rude or incivil, and do not make personal attacks. You should also consider taking the time to resolve your disputes appropriately, instead of stubbornly insisting on removing templates regardless of what others think, especially when you are not involved in the relevant Wikiproject and they are. It might seem, if I wasn't willing to still assume better, that you're doing it to make a point. --Cheeser1 (talk) 15:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unref template
After responding to your comment on Wikipedia talk:Scottish Wikipedians' notice board, I took a look at your recent contributions, and noticed you've been adding {{Unreferenced}} to several stub articles. While there isn't actually any consensus on this, I thought I should let you know that I was warned for doing the exact same thing; the 'unref' template was originally intended for longer articles, and some editors feel that it looks rather obtrusive on a brief stub (which is bound to have other problems anyway). Personally, I think it's fine on articles of a moderate length (even if they do have a stub template), but on those that are only one or two lines it just looks a bit silly. I've removed the ones I thought were inappropriate; I hope you don't mind.
Feel free to discuss this on my talk page, or the talk page for the {{Unreferenced}} template. Anyway, you've done a great job finding, tagging and categorising these ugly little stubs, so keep it up! Terraxos (talk) 04:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] AfD nomination of Scottish national identity
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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Image-Express2.jpg)
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[edit] Congratulations
I have only just read your comment on the noticeboard. I hope you enjoyed your well earned break, and will continue to make excellent contributions to Scottish articles.
Meal do naidheachd - Congratulations! --MacRusgail (talk) 22:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Congratulations
I have only just read your comment on the noticeboard. I hope you enjoyed your well earned break, and will continue to make excellent contributions to Scottish articles.
Meal do naidheachd - Congratulations! --MacRusgail (talk) 22:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Template:Infobox Scotland county
I note you have worked on this infbox template. The template appears to me to be almost designed to produce nonsensical results. See also Talk:County of Nairn. Laurel Bush (talk) 16:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC).
[edit] Back?
Are you back now? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 21:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- No. I just happen to come across Wikipedia articles when writing/doing research, and I cannot resist the temptation to correct elementary factual errors or revert vandalism. I am trying not to edit, but I am sure you know how addictive this place is! --Mais oui! (talk) 07:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] AfD nomination of American Identity
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[edit] Scotland on Sunday
No bad! Wad hae been better gin they'd tried tae get haud o ane o us that wirks on it for oor opeenions, but nivver mind. Dr Robinson did us prood. Mendor (talk) 10:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Trinity
You sent me on a historical journey. Nice distraction from my RfA. Anyways, the only pre-1638 provost called "John Dingwall" was provost of Trinity Collegiate Church, Edinburgh (founded March 25, 1462). This was previously the "college and hospital of the Holy Trinity", in Edinburgh. Apparently the church, "the last and finest Gothic fragment in Edinburgh", was destroyed in 1848 to build Waverley Station, so that's why you haven't found it. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, good job! It went into the back of my mental to-do list after you mentioned it, but I see you didn't hang around! For some reason I'm not in the mood for article writing just now. Don't really feel like it. I have some stuff that I can maybe get along to adding at some stage when I get back into the mood. I see from the links there's a free pic too. Good work, and all the best. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 19:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] My RfA
| Image:David,larry.JPG | My RFA | |
| Thank you muchly for your support in my recent request for adminship, which was successfully closed on 76%, finishing at 73 supports, 23 opposes and 1 neutral. The supports were wonderful, and I will keep in mind the points made in the useful opposes and try to suppress the Larry David in me! Now I'm off to issue some cool down blocks, just to get my money's worth!
Kidding btw. And your comments were among my favourite; always nice to laugh during something like that! All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 11:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC) |
[edit] Trinity College Kirk
I'm assuming that this was intended to be posted as a DYK nomination and not to the SCO Portal talk? If so, I'll let you move it. It's a nice juicy fact and a good wee start for an article. I just spotted above that you had flagged something up to The Deacon and his response prompted and informed the creation of this article. My, what a tangled and interwoven web this place can be, excellent stuff!
Belated congrats by the way on your recent marriage, I've been hyper inactive for a long while now due to many, many personal reasons, but my best wishes to you and your new spouse. --Cactus.man ✍ 22:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] JMC
Hello Mais oui! Hope you are well. Thanks for the heads-up on the Joint Ministerial Committee, which should be a blue link. Will try and do something about it, if no-one gets there before me. Cheers Globaltraveller (talk) 14:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Trinity College Kirk, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid (talk) 17:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Well done sir! Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 20:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List of countries by formation dates
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[edit] AfD nomination of List of countries by formation dates
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[edit] Alexandria, Virginia
Hello!
I notice you've made a number of edits on the Alexandria, Virginia page. There is currently a discussion in the talk page which you might be interested in contributing to! I look forward to seeing you there. Warm and fuzzy regards, --Breadandcheese (talk) 16:57, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Greetings, spirited one! Question for you ... planning to create at least one article on Scots in other countries. Oxford Companion to Scottish history has a series of such articles, so wikipedia should follow. The question is, what sorta naming formula do you think'd be best. E.g. Scottish people in Russia, Scots in Russia, Scotland and Russia, etc, etc? Doesn't need to be Russia (that's the one I'm doing in my userspace), could be Poland, USA, Sweden, etc. I've asked Ben MacDui too. All the best. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- 'Scuse me for butting in here - I wanted to congratulate you on your DYK feat and also keep the discussion in one place. I'd go for Scots in Russia myself. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk
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[edit] There you go ...
... three images for you. There are more, but more wouldn't fit! All the bestest, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 14:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Map on Scotland
Hi there, regarding my statement of "Trying with no protection; however no map nor country/region/nation changes please until consensus has been reach on the talk page" - the implication there is leave it with whatever map that revision has. I don't know if that's the wrong version or what (I don't remember what version of the map is used in that revision) but it doesn't really matter. I don't want to protect the page again, but I will if needed. My exasperated own opinion can probably be found on the talk page, but this was put aside in the protection; or was made after the protection was lifted. The best way to move this issue forward is to try and widen out the users participating in the discussion - get an agreed unbiased summary of the situation written up and then canvass other relevant WikiProjects and such like. Thanks/wangi (talk) 08:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List of basic United Kingdom topics
Please point me to the merge proposal, and to the discussion, for the merge you proposed. I couldn't find an actual proposal, just the merge tags. Also, the discussion link in the merge tag on the above named list is red. If there is no proposal or discussion, then the tags are subject to removal.
The list in question was created from scratch, and is part of the set of Lists of basic topics. The country lists there differ in scope from the Lists of country-related topics in that the latter are intended to be comprehensive, while the basic ones aren't. Therefore, the List of basic United Kingdom topics is not a fork. Redirecting the basic list would be disruptive to the set of lists of basic topics, because all the lists there are in a standard format and are of a standard scope - to redirect to another kind of list than what the readers are expecting defeats the purpose of that entry in the set, and of the set itself.
Also, there's a problem with the set of Lists of country-related topics. Most of them are alphabetical index pages, while a few are in table of contents format. This raises the issue of what to call new index pages for countries that already have a TOC by the same name.
The Transhumanist 10:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Scotland
I have put a proposol on the Scotland talk page and would be pleased if you had a look at it and tell me what your opinion is. I may be a little naive thinking it will solve everything but I can but try!--Jack forbes (talk) 12:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] A suggested name change here
I see that you tried unsuccesfully to make a name change to the article before. Well we are now having another look at changing the name from "Constituent country" to "Constituent area", as area is less POV, as the political status of Wales and N.Ireland is long disputed, and would welcome your oppinions. :) Gozitancrabz (talk) 12:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fire service in the UK
Hi. There's been extensive discussion about the naming of this article since I started it some time ago. As the article isn't exclusively about just fire services, but lots of other legislative, professional and associated bodies, I thought everyone was in agreement that it would NOT be plurlaised. Please do not move the name again - I've moved it back. the article is meant to be about a concept rather than a group of fire services. I don't contribute much to Wikipedia these days but I'd appreicate this one being preserved in the form that I originally intended it. Thanks. Escaper27 (talk) 18:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] No content in Category:Law enforcement agencies in Northern Ireland
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