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[edit] Average Age

Creation of an average age table is simply showing the statistics that have already been stated on the page in a way that shows a trend of the average age over the seasons. This content should be allowed on this page. It is in no way 'trivia' as previously stated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.27.66.87 (talk) 23:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

It's really unnecessary, and there was nothing saying why the age trend is notable and thus falls under the trivia category. Besides, it's a List of contestants, not a list of contestants ages. -- Scorpion0422 00:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll take that argument. List of Survivor contestants average age lets just keep it here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zopheus (talk • contribs) 00:10, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Melissa McNulty

Since she quit the game before it started, should she really be considered as a contestant. She never appeared on the show and therefore never played. Want does everyone else think? Survivorfan101 10:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

She didn't actaully appear on the show, so she shouldn't be listed here. -- Scorpion0422 01:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Occupations

Occupations are relevent and have had an impact upon the game. (Ex. Carl from Survivor Africa was only targeted because it became known that he was a dentist and the others assumed he had more money then them.) The castaway's hometown should be considered more trivia then their occupation. DanMan22 23:02, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I agree with DanMan22 on this. Occupation seems less trivial than hometown to me. --Maxamegalon2000 15:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Occupations aren't listed on the season pages, so why should this one be any different? -- Scorpion0422 15:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I suppose one could argue that an article about the contestants would naturally contain more detailed information about the contestants than the articles on each season. Maybe we could discuss somewhere more prominently whether to add occupations to the season pages as well? --Maxamegalon2000 19:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Occupations are trivial. They have nothing to do with the actual game and in many cases, the contestants no longer hold them, so not only is it trivia, it's outdated trivia. The list should be for basic information, if we add occupations, then we should add the number of days they were in the game, the tribes they were in, etc, etc. -- Scorpion0422 19:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
My opinion is that neither home town or occupation are really necessary. While it is true that an occupation did make an impact on a few survivors, for the majority of the survivors, it no impact on the game for them. -- Gogo Dodo 23:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Notable" survivors - what about Miss USA delegates

I was reading this: "for the most part, contestants are virtually unknown prior to their Survivor appearance, but occasionally some well known people are cast" and it got me thinking. Should there be a mention of the fact that five former Miss USA or Miss Teen USA delegates have competed? One might call it trivial but I think the fact that I can't think of another single group that has representation like this suggests that it might be worth including. The girls are Janu Tornell (Miss Nevada USA 1989 - Palau), Kim Mullen (Miss Ohio USA 2002), Misty Giles (Miss Texas Teen USA 1999 - Panama), Danni Boatwright (Miss Kansas Teen USA 1992 & Miss Kansas USA 1996 - winner of Guatemala) and Amanda Kimmel (Miss Montana USA 2005 - China). PageantUpdater talk • contribs 10:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I only put the sentence in there because the lead needed padding and I added two examples because being part of the NFL and being an astronaut is kind of notable, but this has since expanded to four. I don't think there is a need to list EVERY SINGLE contestant who had slight success before joining the show. -- Scorpion0422 11:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and removed the entire sentence because it was unsourced and sort of POVish, because to a poker fan, Jean-Robert would be far more famous than Gary or Ashley. I really think it's unnecessary to include how many were Miss Tenn USA contestants because there is no reason why that specific group is notable. What about all of the contestants from the armed forces? Either way, the section really isn't the kind you would want in an FL. -- Scorpion0422 20:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Isn't the difference that mentioning the high number of Miss USA and Miss Teen USA delegates would be relevant in a discussion about castaways that were notable before appearing on the show, whereas mentioning the number of contestants from the armed forces would not be? It sounds like the point of contention here is whether being a delegate confers notability. Unlike the individuals already listed, no one is proposing that the lead section mention all of the delegates who have been castaways. --Maxamegalon2000 21:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
For those concerns, and more, that's why I removed the sections. Without sources, it's all POV as to who was and who wasn't notable before appearing on the show anyway. -- Scorpion0422 21:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I think deleting all of the sentence in question along with all of the examples would be best in the long run. It will be difficult to draw the line on what is notable enough for inclusion or not (I personally think that the pagent delegates are notable enough should the sentence stay) and I can see long arguments about where the line is and then eventually the list getting too long. -- Gogo Dodo 23:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should Frosti get his own page?

I was wondering if Frosti from Survivor: China should get his own page here on Wikipedia, I mean he is the youngest contestant to ever play the game. I think that is very notable... Thankyoubaby (talk) 02:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

No. Typically, contestants don't get pages unless they have done something else notable outside the show. The exceptions to this are the winners. -- Scorpion0422 02:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contestants' Table

I have been constantly visiting this article and can't help but see how hard it is to read the table. I just thought that it would be better to at least have some spacing per survivor installment so that the table will be easier to read.LordBelly06 (talk) 04:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

That would render the sortability by finish, location, etc. kind of useless. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

When I was just doing some stuff with the sorting by certain stats (ages, locations, finishes) I noticed that Alexis, James, Jason, and Ozzy from Micronesia get sorted at the bottom with the final 5 (Erik, Cirie, Natalie, Parvati, Amanda)...but since the former 4 have their placings, why aren't they properly sorted? 24.236.38.22 (talk) 10:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

That's because of a improperly typed sort function. As these guys are 9th through to 6th (single digits) they need a zero in front of their number to sort properly, i.e. {{sort|6|6th}} needs to be {{sort|06|6th}}. I've fixed it. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)