Talk:John Favalora

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Contents 1 Inflammatory sections 2 Gay Sex Scandals 3 BLP issues, Mediation, etc. 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Favalora.jpg 5 WikiProject class rating

[edit] Inflammatory sections

Editors should be familiar with the Wikipedia standard on verifiability. Statements need footnote reference from reliable source. Sometimes these are newspapers. Sometimes newspapers are simply promoting rumors that sell papers. Please use discretion. Student7 17:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Having contributed heavily to the article in general, I re-worked the legal section which was inflammatory. While I do not believe simply stating a deposition is appropriate, making note of involvement in the abuse scandal is probably appropriate. However, a difference must be maintained in this section between lawsuits filed against the Archdiocese...which should be noted on that page...vs the Archbishop himself. Making sure that appropriate sources are used and facts, not theory, are presented are key. Aafm 15:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gay Sex Scandals

"In 2004, a group of concerned lay Catholics of the Miami Archdiocese constituted themselves a lay "watchdog" organization, under the name Christifidelis. Broward County attorney Sharon Bourassa, a member of Christifidelis, was counsel for The Rev. Andrew Dowgiert in a lawsuit filed against the Archdiocese in May of 2005. In 2005 and 2006, Catholic columnist Matt C. Abbott (of RenewAmerica.us) published several articles tracing developments in what became known as the "Miami Vice" scandal."

1. The article fails to state in what way homosexuality is connected with the rest of the article. What does "Gay" refer to?
2. I have trouble finding Christifidelis on the internet. They may have a presence nationally. I'm not sure there is more than a paper organization in Miami. In short, it is a sham organization for purposes of reporting anything.
3.The dismissed and withdrawn Dowgiert lawsuit has been discussed. Dowgiert was annoyed at being reassigned to job where he would not be exposed to minors in view of accusations made against him. This does not tie in well with whatever the section is trying to say. Is molesting/homosexuality good or bad? If bad, why is the editor and Christifidelis defending Dowgiert, an accused molestor?
4.RenewAmerica.us has a noticeable presence on the web. It is run by Alan Keyes, a right wing columnist/politician. It is heavily biased and therefore not a referenceable site.
5.What "vice?" This is a cute name. But there's nothing here to connect anything to "vice," except the accusations against Dowgiert which the editor apparently disagrees with.
6.None of this seems reportable anyway. So what? Even if Christifidelis is a big organization. Why does this section deserve space? There are 4000 organizations in America all wanting to be heard. And most of them have opinions about the Catholic church. What makes this one so special that it deserves space in Wikipedia?
7.And what is this doing under "Favalora" anyway? I don't see how it ties in with him (except for the mysterious reference to Dowgiert. If encyclopedic in some other way, the Dowgiert reference alone might go here).
8.Anyway, as currently written, the paragraph is incoherent.Student7 20:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BLP issues, Mediation, etc.

I have removed the possibly controversial/BLP-problematic sections, because I am getting email from people throwing around words like "defamatory" and "unfounded accusations." Those editing and adding this content are welcome to join us at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/John Favalora. If they do not, I recommend the issue be taken to arbitration. Andre (talk) 02:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Favalora.jpg

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[edit] WikiProject class rating

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