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[edit] Merged

Should this article not be merged with Four Corners Monument. Both articles are about the same thing and there both quite small

Allard Monday 24 April 2006

No, one is a region of the United States and the other is a monument. They're both named after the same thing, but they are distinct. Merenta (talk) 18:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Merenta's is right, yes technically they are 2 different things. One being a region, the other being a monument at a point for which the region is named. However, as currently written, both articles are highly redundant. Most of the content in both articles is actually more appropriate for the Four Corners Monument article. My vote is to move or delete the content on Four Corners that actually belongs on the monument page. Then re-do the Four Corners page with regional informationDave (talk) 20:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

That's a splendid idea! Merenta (talk) 20:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The monument page should be moved to the Four Corners (United States) as it's an attraction in this area. The Four Corners (United States) page will probably see more traffic as it's linked from every radio station page in the area because of Template:Four Corners Radio (which is how I found this page in the first place.--Rtphokie (talk) 00:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you explain your logic? I fail to see how page traffic is a valid factor for a decision. Playing Devil's advocate, I'd say the best reason for merging is that currently both articles are short and are about at least related subjects. I think I'll let this sit for a couple of days, If nobody else opposes gutting the Four Corners article, I'll give it a shot.Dave (talk) 05:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I was responding to the suggestion that the regional information be merged to the page on the monument. The monument is a feature of the area and if anything the monument page should be merged to the page covering the region.--Rtphokie (talk) 21:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

OK I'm working on a re-write of the Four Corners page. If anybody wants to participate it's currently at User:Davemeistermoab/sandbox Dave (talk) 02:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I uploaded my draft. Hopefully this is enough to resolve the merge question. If not, please re-issue it.Dave (talk) 21:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Your edit looks very good, my only suggestion would be that the article be moved to Four Corners (United States) and ]]Four Courners (disambiguation)]] be moved to Four Courners. This is a common geographical term used in severl locations world wide, no need to make these wiki pages so US centric.--Rtphokie (talk) 21:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Thanks for the feedback. At one time this article was Four Corners (United States). I'm not sure who switched the articles or why. If you want to do it, I'm ok with that. I would ask you wait a few days, I just submitted my re-write for a WP:DYK nomination. Can I have my 15 minutes of fame =-) In the interim please add whatever you feel I missed? Dave (talk) 22:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, Googling "Four Corners": The first four Non-wikipedia hits are clearly referring to the intersection of UT/CO/NM/AZ. On the first page of hits, only one is not referring to this Four corners. (refers to a place in Florida). So assuming Google is the all powerful arbitrator, having this be the main Four corners article may be appropriate.Dave (talk) 22:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Exact location?

The coordinates given here don't match the ones on Four Corners Monument Mike Schiraldi 22:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The coordinates under WGS84 are reported by the National Geodetic Survey (see also the separate article U.S. National Geodetic Survey). They are given at this URL: http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/ds_mark.prl?PidBox=AD9256. See also [1] and [2]. The correct coordinates as of 2003 are 36 59 56.31532(N), 109 02 42.62019(W). If you see different coordinates elsewhere, it's either taken from a map that is inaccurate, or it refers to a geodetic system other than WGS84. --Mathew5000 23:52, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better map?

Can we get a better map, one that shows the jurisdictional boundaries of all six governments at the Four Corners? 141.155.129.168 (talk) 03:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)