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Someone with knowledge in this area care to copyedit this?

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I've removed the following on the grounds that accusations of state sponsored terrorism probably need some (quoted) evidence: They have been implicated in several murders of Irish civilians by loyalist paramilitary organisations (particularly the Ulster Defence Association), most famously that of Pat Finucane.

I copyedited some of it, unsure if "Unit Intelligence Officers for Agent Running 1969 - 1978" is the name and date of service of a group or if it should read "unit intelligence officers that ran agents 1969 - 1978" . Also put in some cited quotes of the allegations- removed 'terrorists' in favour of nonPOV 'paramilitaries', removed 'murder gangs', 'murder' (unless there was a conviction for the crime' to 'killings' and a few other pov items. Added citations of the killings from cain and group that claimed the killing at the time.

Took care to nonPOV all the stakeknife stuff as afaik those allegations are disputed by the alledged culprit. Some detail on the legal action taken for that would help and some on the alledged PIRA members the FRU is supposed to have helped the UDA with would also help. Plus some detail on the legal action taken by families Slane/McDaid would be good.

Fluffy999 00:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I will not be responding to messages left on my talkpage or on pages for articles I have worked on. Will no longer be contributing to wikipedia. Thank you. Fluffy999 13:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I wonder what happened to Fluffy. I am suggest herein that the section referring to "alleged" FRU members be deleted. It is not encyclopaedic and can be construed as POV or "weasel words". Please let me know what you think fellow Wikipedians!! MaryLouise@gmail.com 15:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

"Confirmed sockpuppetry... you are the indefinitely blocked User:Rms125a@hotmail.com."[1] Another mystery solved. Fluffy999 19:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Revert to June2006

User Penchant introduced a lot of erronous information to the article and in the process also deleted a large swathe of cited material. I reverted to the version prior. It was also puzzling to see Penchant make a claim in his edit comment that "propaganda" was removed, doubly so when he/she introduced numerous claims of UDA assassinations being the result of "mistaken identity" with the intended targets being PIRA members. These claims were introduced in such a way as if to suggest that the sources I had (originally) cited for the dates of the assassinations supported the statements. While I will conceed the mistaken identity idea I consider the PIRA claim unsubstantiated. Given that I reverted the entire series of edits until a closer look at what was changed can take place.

On the point of detailing the murders that the FRU were involved in it would probably be more worthwhile to quote from the findings of the Cory report to the article instead of trying to paraphrase them eg.:

1.63 In September 1987 Nelson was targeting Declan McDaid. Various CFs recorded during September, November and December 1987 confirm that the UDA was targeting Declan McDaid and preparing to murder him. 1.64 The documentation in Nelson’s possession showed the address of Declan McDaid to be [address redacted]. Documents indicate that, in the spring of 1988 Nelson, (with a UDA colleague Loyalist F) carried out a reconnaissance at that address.

Nelson later went to the library and apparently got the address of [address redacted] for a Maura McDaid. He then wrote [address redacted] on the index card pertaining to Declan McDaid. He also noted that Declan was possibly staying at that address. The [address redacted] address was, however, that of Terence McDaid, Declan’s brother. Thus, Nelson inadvertently began to target Terence as a result of the error in the address. Nelson then gave the particulars of the home address of Terence McDaid to Loyalist F of the UFF with the result that the hit team sent to assassinate Declan McDaid killed Terence on 10 May 1988.

Nelson was later charged with the murder of Terence McDaid. In 1990 he entered a plea of guilty to conspiracy to murder Declan McDaid and received a sentence of 10 years’ imprisonment. (See Appendix 2) Although Declan McDaid was known to be a target as early as September 1987, he was never given any warning by the RUC and certainly his brother Terence received no warning. Source: Finucane Cory Collusion Inquiry Report, April 1, 2004 [2]

If Penchant wants to introduce statements made by Nelson at his trial claiming that he thought that a)Terence McDaid was Declan McDaid and that b)Declan McDaid was in the PIRA, then great, I look forward to discussing that source here on talk. Fluffy999 17:01, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)