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[edit] Good Soods

There seems to be a bit of back-and-forth conflict about whether musician Ashwin Sood and actor Veena Sood are brother and sister or cousins. Most sources seem to say that they're siblings, but some don't — and there's been a slow-creeping edit war about it in our articles on the two since July of last year. Does anybody know for sure, or at least know where we could find out for sure? And while we're at it, how does Manoj Sood fit in there? No Google source that's specifically about him asserts that he's Ashwin's brother — the only sources for it are the ones about Veena which name both Manoj and Ashwin as her brothers. Bearcat (talk) 05:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


\\Manoj and Veena Sood are cousins of Ashwin Sood. Their fathers were both doctors in Calgary.Ashwin's father passed away several years ago, but Ashwin's uncle is still practicing. Manoj, Veena, as well as their older sister Rupa are all noted in their fathers self-edited biography on zoom info. Ashwin was an only child. Both families emigrated, but Manoj, etc arrived in 1964, and Ashwin was born in England in 1967.

--Vitesse (talk) 04:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)Vitesse

[edit] Canadian Royal familly?

A DRV on whether to recreate an article about this. Does it exist as a notable Canadian concept? IS the article NPOV? People might wish to have a say, [1].--Docg 14:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

No one every really mentions a Canadian Royal family. There is a Queen of Canada, but a British Royal family. The only time that I can think of the family being mentioned here is on old plaques where it says something like a cornerstone being laid by the Duke of Edinburgh or the Prince of Whales. I don't think it is notable, but if an editor has enough referenced stuff to say about it, I could be persuaded otherwise. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 15:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Comments should be posted at the review discussion. PKT (talk) 16:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
The "Prince of Whales"? Now there's something I'd like to see.-Dhodges (talk) 13:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Here you go: Prince of Whales :) I went on one their tours a couple of years ago, and I heartily recommend it. Indefatigable (talk) 17:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I think I remember reading somewhere that only the Queen and her husband have any official status in Canada. If that's right, the future king doesn't belong to the Canadian royal family. Joeldl (talk) 18:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An official French name template?

What do people think about creating of an official French name template, that could be used in the lead for English-titled articles on places in Quebec (and elsewhere in the francophonie)? I don't know if you've noticed, but there's no consistency in what we put in the brackets: there's a lot of variations where text is italicised and/or bolded; where we say "officially" or "French"; sometimes with a wikilink to French-language, sometimes not. I know I'm a big offender in this regard, my edits have not been stylistically consistent. There'd obviously have to several variations of the template, analogous to how the settlement infobox offers a number of naming options. I thought a template would standardize the appearance -- but maybe this is a complicated answer to a much simpler problem and a prime example of template creep? What do you think? regards, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

If we create a template:Canadian name or somesuch, and make it resemble the East Asian name templates... It could include French, English and Inukitut (the three languages officially in use by first level subdivisions of Canada (Provinces and Territories))... (see template:Chinese for the most complex and complete example of such templates). Or the inline templates (see template:zh-tsp for a fairly simple one). 70.55.88.176 (talk) 06:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
It actually already exists. I've seen it on some article leads. Can't remember where, though. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wayne Gretzky Featured Article Review

Hello, this article, which falls under the scoope of your project, is currently listed as a Featured Article. I felt that there is sufficient reason to revisit this assessment, so I have listed it for a Featured Article Review. My preference is to see the concerns addressed and have the article remain at its current level, but some work its needed. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Wayne Gretzky. Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Places in Montreal is at AfD

Places in Montreal] has been nominated for deletion 70.55.85.225 (talk) 05:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I've listed it at Wikipedia:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board#Candidates for deletion. DoubleBlue (Talk) 13:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Canada is in WP:FAC

Flag of Canada is currently in WP:FAC and if anyone is interested in helping out with improving the article by copyediting, that would be great. Thanks! Gary King (talk) 03:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Canada Coat of Arms

Without even so much as a heads up, it looks like all Canadian Coat of Arms have been deleted from Commons. So, does anyone know why besides the vague "no license" reason that seems to be give for all of them? And secondly is what should we do now? Just looking at the Saskatchewan Coat of Arms, it has a notice saying "These emblems are protected by law and may only be used with permission." Are we going to have to claim fair use for all of these? I think it's an unacceptable solution to just not have them at all. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 20:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Canadian Crown copyright is a lot pickyer than US state copyright, and pretty much every drawing of a coat of arms or official photo of an MP has to be either labels as fair use if we can't duplicate it or deleted if we can. One of these days I'm going to organize a petition to ask the government to loosen up crown copyright laws, because right now they are not our friend. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 20:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Arctic Gnome is correct. You can upload them to Wikipedia if (and only if) you justify a Fair use on an article. DoubleBlue (Talk) 20:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

:::Why then was it only the provincial arms that were deleted? Or, will we lose Image:Coat of arms of Canada.svg as well? --G2bambino (talk) 23:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC) Oops. Never mind; I see now that that image is used under fair use. --G2bambino (talk) 23:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

This is the page about Saskatchewan's use/copyright of its Coat of Arms SriMesh | talk 14:29, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nova Scotia in the Dutch Empire

Hello everyone! There is a discussion at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map, because user Red4tribe has made a map of the Dutch Empire (Image:Dutch Empire 4.png) that includes significative parts of Nova Scotia. Would you like to comment? Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

New Map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dutch_Empire_new.PNG http://www.colonialvoyage.com/ square=tradingpost (Red4tribe (talk) 16:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC))

Still OR, POV and unsourced (yours is not not a credible source). Please discuss stuff at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map. This was just a request for comment, not a discussion. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 16:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian artists

See http://www.ccca.ca/artists/artist_list.html?languagePref=en& for a list of Canadian artists who might be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. --Eastmain (talk) 03:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Library and Archives Canada non-PD images - Deletion

Something for editors of Canadian articles to be aware of at Commons is Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Library and Archives Canada non-PD images. It seems we will soon loose of a lot of images on important subjects (e.g. pics of former Prime Ministers). --Rob (talk) 19:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Does this mean that we should be moving them to en:wikipedia as fair-use images wnd writing rationales for them? Franamax (talk) 19:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I looked at three images at random from the nomination, and found that on all three, the LOC itself owns the copyright, and places no restrictions on use or reproduction. I'm willing to go through them all if it becomes necessary, but I'm betting the images of the Prime Ministers will be kept, plus several more. Resolute 20:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Scratch that. I hadn't read the email linked in that IfD. Resolute 20:34, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing - but commons only hosts fully free images. We will need to write up FUR's where we have a compelling reason to use the image to demonstrate the subject - which is not all that hard really, but there's some detail involved. Can we organize a mini-project here? Franamax (talk) 21:25, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I have a short list of en.wikipedia-hosted LAC images at User:Padraic/LAC - these will also need to be FUR'd or deleted. --Padraic 14:55, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I've been working on this for a while now, if anyone else wants to help preserve the use of these images, check out the mini-project. Any help will be appreciated! Franamax (talk) 03:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CAIRS

After reading about this in the news for the past week I realized it didn't have an entry, so I started one. It's a bit tricky to see exactly how it works, so please chip in over at Coordination of Access to Information Requests System. --Padraic 14:37, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian Refugee Policy

Don't know what to make of this article: Canadian Refugee Policy. Not a bad article topic in theory, but the author seems to have a major bee in his bonnet. Deet (talk) 19:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe the article should be renamed. It's not really about Canadian Refugee Policy. It is in fact a sourced article on a particular "urban legend" (although it's as much a rural legend it seems) about whether immigrants benefit more than Canadian pensioners. The title should reflect that, and there is a category for urban legends to which, I suggest, it be added. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MV Island Sky

The MV Island Sky stub article is up for deletion. Island Sky is a ferry currently under construction. Comments are welcome at the article's entry at the Articles for deletion page. — Bellhalla (talk) 21:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 Major League Soccer season standings

For those of you who cares about Canadian soccer, there is a discussion about the standings format here and there is a vote of consensus here. The topic is about whether to use Wins-Losses-Ties or to use Wins-Draws-Losses. Kingjeff (talk) 16:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Provincial coat of arms

Dionysius321 (talk · contribs) has uploaded most of the provincial coats of arms under {{PD-self}}, so they'll be deleted. Is someone out there kind enough to find the sources and upload them properly?-Wafulz (talk) 12:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Government section at Canada article

A relatively serious disruption is being caused at the Canada article, namely around the government and politics section. The discussion is becoming aggravated as it is being taken round-and-round in circles, so some fresh opinion would be most welcome. Cheers. --G2bambino (talk) 14:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An Invitation from the Philippine Wikipedia Community

Hello folks,

The Philippine Wikipedia Community will be holding its 1st Meet-up in Cebu City (the fourth one in the Philippines) on June 23-24, 2008. This coincides with the first Philippine Open Source Summit also to be held in Cebu, and which the Philippine Wikipedia Community is a Implementing Partner in. We invite you to join us in this event. If you are in the IT or IT-enabled services industry, this would be a great opportunity to network with leaders from the 4th best outsourcing city in the world. This is also a good excuse to visit our beautiful beaches :)

If you're interested in joining the Wikipedia meet-up, please join our discussion. To register for the Open Source Summit, please contact CEDF-IT. If you would like some assistance with local accomodations, you may email User:Bentong Isles.

The Philippine Wikipedia Community
WP:PINOY

[edit] fixed election dates

Just created Fixed election dates in Canada, please take a look. I would like to expand the provincial list and have a pro/con section as well. --Padraic 16:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Braidwood Inquiry

The page on the Braidwood Inquiry into the Tasering death of Robert Dziekanski is in a sorry state. This is a very high-profile inquiry with masses of media coverage - I'm wondering if a few editors can help bring the article up to scratch and also keep it updated as the inquiry unfolds? Reggie Perrin (talk) 16:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Canada Day to FA by July 1?

Is anyone interested in bringing Canada Day to FA status by July 1, for Canada Day, so that it can be shown on Wikipedia's main page? Gary King (talk) 00:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Great idea for a collaboration though I fear I won't have the time to do much work on it. DoubleBlue (Talk) 01:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
It's definitely do-able, but the time available is slowly shrinking, and I'm collaborating on other articles (such as Adam Smith) with a few other editors so I'm a bit tight on time. Gary King (talk) 01:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Peer review request was raised: Wikipedia:Peer review/Canada Day/archive1. Things are tight for FA by Canada Day, but could try for at least GA. To get there, references need to be added, some more material such as examples of celebrations outside Canada. Maybe beef up info on some of the more prominent occasions e.g. additional activity for 125th in 1992. Dl2000 (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey wrestling fans...

Pursuant to the current AFD on Blood sweat and ears, I've noted that there was a previously AFDed article about the same topic. The organization appears to be notable enough to merit a properly written and properly referenced article, but the current version is very poorly written and completely unsourced, and the prior version, while much more substantial, was still just not quite good enough to get past the AFD gatekeepers. If anybody would like to take on getting the article up to snuff, I'm willing as an admin to provide them with a restored copy of the old article to work with — but the article truly is complete crap in its existing form. Please reply here or on my talk page if you're willing to work on it. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 04:04, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sheslay River

I found this incidentally tonight, seeing it bluelinked while editing List of British Columbia rivers; it's an amateur-report personal wilderness trip thing, although thtere's useful text within it that's fairly easy to cite; I don't ahve time to trim it - needs a chainsaw, or at least a really good weed-whacking - and there's all other kinds of things bout the Sheslay basin that could/should be in it. So if anyone here also is in the rivers project, or maybe WikiProject Mining (a lot of issues/mines/mining history up that way), it might help save what's good in the article from being deleted wholesale when somebody comes along and just deletes it all. Its parent river the Inklin, and its twin the Nahlin River, also both should have articles if this one does (the Taku River already exists, though needs CanCon).Skookum1 (talk) 06:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 21:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] delete Broadmead-Sunnymead, Saanich

A year ago someone placed the advert tag on this, and unlike James Island (British Columbia) and Ten Mile Point, British Columbia, this is not rescuable; the other two are at least geographical objects; hte4se are just developer-named subdivisions. Saanich's real neighbourhoods like Deep Cove, Saanichton etc don't have articles, but some developer has been busy, busy, busy using Wikipedia to write promotinoal materials; another one is Bear Mountain (resort). Ten Mile Point I have my doubts about; it should be merged with Cadboro Bay, British Columbia ibn my estimation, as an actual local-neiburhood of Caddy Bay, rathe than a "special case" needxing its ow narticle....article = promotional materia.Skookum1 (talk) 14:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

re Bear Mountain (resort) I just took out promotoinal sections on policing, what kidn of views the hotel's rooms have over its golf course, where the nearest schools are (far) and a custom-made infobox. See that page's history, and pls maintain a POV/advertotirla watch (I won't be around again in a short while). Looking around for similar realtor-focussed articles......Skookum1 (talk) 14:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
While I can't tell what the Broadmead-Sunnymead, Saanich article looked like, I would disagree that they are just developer named subdivisions. Broadmead at least, is locally refered to as a neighbourhood, in the same manor Cadboro Bay is. However, I do agree that it does not need its own page, and the summary in Saanich is suitable.DigitalC (talk) 00:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
The content was rankly promotional in nature, and didn't read like normal neighbourhood articles; I was surprised at how quickly it was taken out after I placed the delete tag, but clearly the party who deleted it took one look and went, "yup, advertising". If it hadn't been written so marketing-wise, I wouldn't have placed the tag; if it hadn't been what I thought it was (advertising) it wouldnt' have been deleted. Other articles with similar content I've just trimmed befcause somethign else about them was notable than the real estae pitch that was most of the content (see next section).Skookum1 (talk) 03:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bear Mountain, Uplands and Ten Mile Point

A number of Victoria-area articles have been written for promotional reasons and were/are heavy on promotinoal content. This is not so much of a problem in Vancouver-area articles becuase of the activity there of the Vancouver WikiProject and a greater overall level of Wiki inputting/editing from Vancouverites. Some of the Victoria articles ahve been around for a while but never got dealt with; in the course of investigating links off related articles I happened to find them and take a chainsaw to the advertising content, with Sunnymead-Broadmead being so bad it was speedily deleted. James Island (British Columbia) survived, and I think i was kind to Ten Mile Point, British Columbia. But on the talkpages at Talk:Bear Mountain (resort) and Talk:Uplands, Greater Victoria, I've been criticized for being too heavy-handed in chopping out the sales pitches and house-buyer brochure info..... I disagree although there are maybe elements from what I deleted that could be reworked into the article in a less sales-pitchy tone; and in Bear Mountain's case there's a "controversy" section which needs a neutral eye to de-NPOV it (and there's POV from both sides in it)); I don't ahve the stomach so that's one reason I'm asking for comment/input/edits from outside. I did my best to refer the complaint to WP:MOS etc but maybe others could be more diplomatic....here's athought; could we add a switch to the project template for "kind of attention needed", taht would disaply/rank like the class/importance/tpye stuff? So we could "flag" articles like this that need attention, though not a change of importance/rating.Skookum1 (talk) 03:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Please see also Talk:Cadboro_Bay,_British_Columbia#Merge_Ten_Mile_Point.Skookum1 (talk) 03:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Templates_for_deletion#Template:Ministry_box_office_header

I noticed that this template which appears to be in fairly common use for Canadian politicians is listed for deletion. I added it to the list here in case anyone here has strong feelings on the subject. --Big_iron (talk) 10:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Bus transit in Canada to Category:Bus transport in Canada

A proposed rename for Category:Bus transit in Canada to Category:Bus transport in Canada. See Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_May_28#Category:Bus_transit_in_the_United_States. 70.55.85.131 (talk) 04:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Patrick Moore

The Patrick Moore (environmentalist) article could use some work, and a photo. Pustelnik (talk) 11:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1% milestone passed

As of the last update of WP:1.0 stats, WikiProject Canada has grown to include 24,050 articles out of English Wikipedia's 2,395,457 articles, meaning that our WikiProject comprises a full 1% of the entire encyclopedia! --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 02:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article for FA

The article Monarchy of Canada has been nominated as a featured article candidate. It's already rated as an A-class for this Wikiproject, and was a previous nominee for FA, so I don't think it would take a helluva lot of work to get it up the next notch to FA status. I've started cleanup and copyediting, but, obviously, the more attention it receives the better. --G2bambino (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bots

There's a proposal, currently being discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/FritzpollBot creating up to two million new articles, to possibly have a bot set up boilerplate articles for at least a portion of all sourceable and verifiable geographic localities in the world that don't have articles yet.

While I'm not sure where this particular proposal is going to go, I've been thinking that we should probably work toward turning a bot loose on any and all Canadian municipalities that don't have articles yet. This wouldn't be for all geographic settlements, as a bot can't evaluate the quality of sources outside of a straight data dump, but only for those which are legally incorporated as municipalities and consequently have objective statistical data that can be copied directly from the Canada 2006 Census. It would remain a job for the human editors to determine whether unincorporated communities have sufficient sources to get independent articles or just redirects; a bot cannot make that determination.

We've discussed this possibility here before, but it never came to fruition — and I think we should try to pursue it again, as we have far too many Canadian municipalities (especially in Quebec) that still have no article at all. Even if nothing comes of this particular bot project, I think we should still approach a bot programmer to get the Canadian places done regardless.

Accordingly, I'm going to set up a reference list at Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board/Municipalities to list all incorporated cities, towns, townships, villages, parishes, municipalities, etc., that still don't have their own articles. Please add to it if you can. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 01:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm iffy on the bot thing (actually I've opposed it over there) but I like the idea of a list of Canadian redlinks as a guide to what we need to do. Three questions: 1) would the list be better off by province by alphabet, for easier regional assessment? 2) What about a list showing all the census municipalities including the articles already created? 3) What is your data source / how are you generating the lists, so we may better help? Franamax (talk) 04:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Whenever possible, I'm listing places that are redlinked on the various provincial "list of municipalities in (province)" lists. Not all provinces have a comprehensive one, however, so it's been a bit scattershot at times. I've been adding redlinks from List of municipalities in Quebec, though I haven't entirely finished S-Z yet. Another user has already added places in Saskatchewan, though you might have to check with them to know whether they've added all the remaining municipalities. I know that all incorporated municipalities in Ontario and Newfoundland and Labrador and all three territories are done, with none left to create — although many certainly still need expansion, that's not within the scope of this particular effort. I haven't reviewed any of the other provinces yet; I know, for example, that some summer villages in Alberta need to be added, but haven't reviewed whether there's anything else besides that. And no First Nations in any province have been added yet, either. Bearcat (talk) 04:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Regarding your other questions, sorting the list by province is perfectly valid; just because I created it the way I did doesn't mean that it can't be reorganized if necessary or useful to do so. As for lists of all census municipalities, that is a good idea. Lists already exist at Places in Canada: A and Places in Canada: B, though only A is actually complete, both A and B mix incorporated municipalities and unincorporated communities, and with both lists almost two years old now I have absolutely no idea why the creator never got around to finishing the B list past Barachois or moving on to C. Bearcat (talk) 05:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
There is a List of Aboriginal communities in Canada which may be a useful starting point for the First Nations. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 16:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Added red link all towns of Saskatchewan. Added SK Rural Municipalities to the end of the letter L so far. Will have to investigate if hamlets are incorporated or unincorporated before adding, same with first nations - investigate which are incorporated or unincorporated - and how Stats Canada names them.SriMesh | talk 01:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Commons wikiprojects

Should there be a Wikicommons wikiproject to help create consistency amongst image naming and categories on commons for Canadian related images. This could also be cross wiki linked to Wikimedia Canada's project to organise drives to produce free photos of Canadian locations SriMesh | talk 03:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you talking about commons PD images only here? Technically that's beyond en:wiki's scope but I'd be glad to help on my commons account - tell me there where I can sign up! Of course, the first hurdle will be the large number of non-free LAC images on commons. Commons:Deletion requests/Library and Archives Canada non-PD images took out some but by no means all of them :( Franamax (talk) 03:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
A preliminary Commons WikiProject Canada has been created. Please help adapt, modify and expand it, to coordinate and organize Canadian media on commons. It will provide a common area for media discussion, PD issues and naming on the commons WP talk page as well.SriMesh | talk 01:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, already the Commons WikiProject Canada has a This gallery has been requested for deletion deletion tag and discussion started because a wikiproject is not a gallery. Does anyone want to edit the intial start up or comment if it is needed on commons or not. SriMesh | talk 02:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Deletion tag is removed now. Will see how a WP on the commons fares to coordinate media issues. SriMesh | talk 18:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The page was moved and is now at Commons:Commons:WikiProject Canada. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 15:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Isaac Brock nominated for FA review

Isaac Brock has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.

[edit] Skungwai/SG_ang Gwaay Llnaagay/Ninstints

Skungwai/SG_ang Gwaay Llnaagay/Ninstints - choice of name re article creation; please see THIS from Gwaii Haanas National Park Reserve and Haida Heritage Site, which needs the village split off. Formatting and orthography choices for indigenous articles in general need dicscussion/consistency somewhere/somehow.Skookum1 (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Improvement projects

While I'm on the subject of compiling redlinked municipalities, I'd also like to solicit some input on whether we can improve the current organization of Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board/Requests and Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board/Articles to improve. I find both of them very confusingly-organized at present, and would note that they're very poorly used. I shouldn't have had to start compiling a list of redlinked municipalities by individually consulting various provincial "Municipalities in X" lists, for instance — if we were using the requests and improvements areas as consistently as we should be, every Canadian municipality that doesn't have an article yet would already have been listed there.

So does anybody have any ideas for how we can improve the organization of those two subpages, and maybe make more active and efficient use of them as coordinating tools? Bearcat (talk) 18:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you about the organisation of those pages and some of the requests on Articles to improve are undoubtedly out-of-date. I'm not sure at the moment how to improve it but I'll think about it. On a somewhat related note, I was recently thinking of making a to-do list or task list like Template:WikiProjectCSBTasks with rotating items from those pages that might be helpful. I'd also like to see the Collaboration of the Month thing restart. DoubleBlue (Talk) 01:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it's better but there's a more automated and comprehensive option through User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings which creates a list page like Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Cleanup listing. We might also try a attention=yes parameter on the Template:WikiProject Canada to add article to a Canadian subcat of Category:Articles needing attention, which might be better kept up to date (by being tagged on the article's talk page) but not particularly well-organised. DoubleBlue (Talk) 01:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unannounced class project

Hi all. Earlier today, I discovered a group of new articles edited by new and anonymous editors. These were all started in the last few days of May, and appear to constitute a graduate class project, unannonced on WP. This is for the class ADHE536, and I believe it is at UBC. While they seem to respect the policies of WP, particularly that of OR, some of thesse editors are frustrated by the fact that others are editing their work before they have a chance to finish (I think they were given two weeks, ending June 11). Unfortunately, most of these articles don't follow WP:MOS. (For example, providing links to an external site despite the fact that a wikilink to a WP article is more suitable; placing notices on the article page instead of talk page; etc.)

There have been a few messages left by these students in various project pages, but I don't think they've received sufficient attention and help. See Talk:Higher education in Ontario#Background and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Education in Canada#Higher Education in Canada. I discovered these articles at User:AlexNewArtBot/CanadaSearchResult.

Anyway, for anyone that's interested in guiding these editors, I've compiled a list of articles and editors below.

[edit] Articles and templates

[edit] Users and anons

  • User:HIED ADHE536
  • User:ADHE536YUKON2008
  • User:ADHE536Alberta2008
  • User:Adhe536ontario2008
  • User:Dawnalee8
  • User:Lnewmans
  • User:Ehilchey
  • User:Maritimefan
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[edit] Next steps

Thanks for your help! With everyone being new to wikipedia no one realized it was appropriate to announce the project first. Sorry about that. The bulk of the editing will be completed by June 11 because the course is winding down with other non-wikipedia assignments due by then. However, most students indicated they'll continue to contribute to these pages (& possibly others). In addition, the pages were featured at a conference on higher education yesterday. Therefore, other subject-matter experts (and most likely wikipedia rookie editors) may add content here and there over the next couple of weeks. There's discussion with several students to complete another project in a new course. This would involve completing the current loose ends, expanding the covered content by province, and completing the top-level page Higher education in Canada. Thanks again for your help, I can see edits from several Canadian Wikipedians across these sites today. If possible, please advise if there are any other steps we should take. Adhe536ontario2008 (talk) 06:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC) ...working on Higher education in Ontario

Although there's no specific requirement for an announcement, it's good practice to do so since it will draw a few Wikipedians toward the project to mentor or guide new editors. Writing an article is just one component of editing. Categorizing the article and adding it to relevant wikiprojects so it can be maintained are also important. All the articles noted above have the same problems:
  • they aren't categorized
  • most are not linked to WikiProjects
  • they need to better conform to the Manual of Style
Overall, it's a good start, and the omissions and issues aren't particularly egregious. Proper article categorization can be annoying, so we'll help out with that. Mindmatrix 15:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback! I've checked all the provinces and territories for links to WikiProjects. Where applicable, I've added the WikiProject Canada tag {{WikiProject Canada|[sub-project]=yes|[province mnemonic]=yes|class=???|importance=???}} with appropriate settings for sub-project and province. I'm leaving the parent level Higher education in Canada site alone for now because another student team will move that (and its related sub-levels) forward later and our current focus is on the provinces/territories. Hopefully, these tags combined with Wikipedian editor's help with categorization will address items one and two that you mentioned above. Regarding better conformance to the MOS... that will take awhile. To help with that process, I've put in a {{talkheader}} on each discussion page for easy reference for student editors and for visiting content-experts who may be rookie wikipedia editors as well. Adhe536ontario2008 (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I've gone through each article and categorized it, added assessments where missing, and did minor cleanup. I made very few content-related changes, mostly for style or to fix obvious errors. Regarding categories, I created one specifically for this set of articles: Category:Higher education in Canada, since there are a sufficient number of articles to warrant it. I've also shifted a few other articles and categories into it. If you find others, feel free to update their categories; if you're not sure, leave a message on my talk page and I'll inspect it. Mindmatrix 23:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, that'll really help the whole project! We'll pass the word around re: new category and editing and grow from there. Cheers Adhe536ontario2008 (talk) 22:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quebec City

Our article on Quebec City is in dire need of some cleanup work. It currently has eight separate cleanup tags on it, three at the very top of the article and five in subsections. Some of them have been on it since February. Can somebody who's willing to help improve the article take a crack or two at it? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 00:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Isaac Brock

Isaac Brock has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Ultra! 19:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Conscientious objectors

There's been a user, User:Boyd Reimer, kicking around making various edits pertaining to American conscientious objectors to the Iraq War and their claims for refugee status in Canada. In addition to inserting inappropriately slanted content into Liberal Party of Canada and Stéphane Dion regarding a particular US war objector who was in the news last week, they've also repeatedly inserted content into the articles on four Conservative MPs — Brad Trost, Nina Grewal, Ed Komarnicki and Dave Batters — criticizing them for having voted against a citizenship and immigration committee motion to grant permanent resident status to all conscientious objectors. Whatever one's personal feelings about this issue, the subtext that voting against it somehow violated an inherent moral obligation on their parts is quite obviously a WP:NPOV violation, and the only provided source was the actual text of the motion on the parliamentary committee's own website, which similarly violates Wikipedia's rules against primary sources. Dion is already pretty well-watchlisted, but the Tory backbenchers aren't — can I ask a for a few kind CWNBers to watchlist them so we can keep an eye on this? Bearcat (talk) 22:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Watchlisted, but BR is going all over the place with this, so a watch on contribs may be helpful too. Franamax (talk) 10:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Human rights organizations in Canada needs populating.

If someone can populate this cat: Category:Human rights organizations in Canada, I'd appreciate it. Reggie Perrin (talk) 01:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Embassy of Uzbekistan in Washington, D.C.

Not sure where you list new articles for this project, so I'll mention it here. This building was the Embassy of Canada for several decades, hence the project tag. APK yada yada 20:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

This is a pretty good spot for listing. Thanks for the excellent work! Franamax (talk) 10:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HNIC

I was wondering if The Hockey Theme should have a separate article... it has resonance in Canadian popular culture... 70.51.9.185 (talk) 09:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What would go in the article? It's been around for awhile, lots of people know it, the composer wants more money. Not much meat there, really. Franamax (talk) 10:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)