Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mount Roskill Grammar School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. W.marsh 20:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mount Roskill Grammar School

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Notability not established. not NPOV. Written like an advertisement — DIEGO talk 07:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletions. —Recurring dreams 07:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable school, references already provided, more can be found on searches [1], neutrality and language can be fixed. Recurring dreams 08:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletions. —gadfium 08:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Recurring dreams. Very clearly a notable school. I agree it needs a rewrite.-gadfium 08:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete sources: 1) school's own site 2) dead link 3) NZ herald article does not mention any specifics about MRGS, only interviews its headmaster about NCEA's report cards. Google (as in the google news above) shows nothing but 85 hits of trivial wp#nfo about it[2]. Claim to notability is winning awards in 1997 and 2002 from Goodman Fielder "...a manufacturer, marketer and distributor of bread, small goods, dairy products, margarine, oil, dressings and various food ingredients." For the record I have reservations about the prestigiousness of this award [3]--Victor falk 08:40, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - you might as well nominate most school articles out there for deletion, since so far none of the ones that I've looked at (in no particular order, just clicked semi-randomly from Category:Schools_in_Auckland) seem to have established notability, or has more than a few external sources other than the school website. For the Google counts, have you considered other variations of the name, like Mt Roskill Grammar or Mount Roskill Grammar (sans the school)? Both of which returns more than 5k hits. --antilivedT | C | G 10:39, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I'd love to see those other schools go up for AfD. CRGreathouse (t | c) 15:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- --Rrburke(talk) 13:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Perfectly good article which passes WP:N as a notable secondary school with multiple notable alumni, notable awards, and a notably interesting student roster. RFerreira 22:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - easily meets WP:N. Award winning school, several notable alumni, and 70 nationalities amongst the pupils (in itself notable). I would add that the following part of the nomination "not NPOV. Written like an advertisement" is wholly irrelevant. We tag and cleanup not delete for those problems. TerriersFan 02:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - now cleaned up. TerriersFan 02:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete clearly unnotable. Every time I take the Circle Line, there are seventy nationalities in the car with me. Eusebeus 17:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Multiple awards, several notable alumni, and numerous reliable and verifiable sources. One would seem hard-pressed to find a better example of an article for a school that satisfies the Wikipedia:Notability standard. Consensus and precedent are clear that this and other such schools are notable, which will not deter the obstinate deniers of this fact. Alansohn 20:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - A reasonable encyclopedic article, I do not see how deletion is needed. Academics, alumni, and awards are all reasonably well sourced from multiple sources to pass WP:N. Article also has some good potential for further improvement. Camaron1 | Chris 10:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.