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[edit] City Status

While I understand that Armagh has official city status from the Queen, does anyone agree that it would be reasonable for us to add that most people regard it as a town? (The same goes to Lisburn and Newry, though perhaps Armagh is more deserving of the city status as it has a cathedral) Jonto 21:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't necessarily think most people do regard it as a town, or give a lot of thought to whether it is a city or a town. I'm not precisely sure what the technicalities are but I believe Armagh was always a city as it had two cathedrals, I think the royal charter business impacts primarily on the council name & so on.

The cathedral criteria is irrelevant as there are cathedrals in many towns in Northern Ireland which are certainly not regarded as cities. I am thinking, for example, of Downpatrick and Clogher. Traditionally the right to be called a city is as a result of the granitng of this status by royal charter - hence Armagh was ( very belatedly) granted city status by royal charters in the late 1990s, whilst Newry and Lisburn received their charter in 2002.

You're right Downpatrick, Clogher, Newry & I think Enniskillen all have Cathedral churches & aren't cities (except now Newry obviously) however Armagh has TWO Cathedrals. This is what makes Armagh a Cathedral city irrespective of any Royal charter.

Yes, Armagh has two cathedrals. I was born and bred under the shadow of the older of the two. However, the number of cathedrals is not an issue of any relevance to this discussion

[edit] Stolen church?

Who exactly refers to the CofI Cathedral as the stolen church? I'm a member of the congregation and have never heard the term used before. On a seperate point, the actual address of the public library is Abbey Street. As far as I know there is no street called Cathedral Hill around the Cathedral.

[edit] Bullet points

Why is nearly everything in this article in bullet points? It makes sense in the demographics section, but everywhere else it looks a bit weird. I think it would work far better in paragraph form, which is the standard Wikipedia style. --Helenalex (talk) 04:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)