Talk:Xochipilli

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god

Could he be the precursor to Kokopelli? The names and descriptions of these entities are too close to be coincidence.

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the original text and more information/pictures may be found here http://www.erowid.org/entheogens/xochi/xochi.shtml

found by sokratis.de ;)

[edit] Homosexuality

I cannot find any valuable source that this info is true. In the Daily Lives of the Aztecs on the Eve of the Spanish Conquest by Jacques Soustelle there is nothing about homosexuality or even male prostitution. The little online sources I did find suggest that this was essentially made up by their Spanish nemesis or looked infavorably at it. I think serious refernces are needed and should be looked into, along with that it should be mentioned that this might be nothing more than another story that the Spanish made up to further demonize the Mexica ppl. Xuchilbara 23:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the offending section. Homosexuality and prostitution certainly existed in pre-Columbian Mexica society, but the idea that Xochipilli was a god of male prostitution is another thing entirely. --Ptcamn 01:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

That and prostitution wasn't as "nice" as it seemed. I'm not sure about homosexuality, [It would be unrealistic to say it did not exist.] but prostitutes were sacrifaced to Tlazolteotl. I don't think the Aztecs were "purity minded" per se. However, they seemed stricter about certin sexual practices than one would normally suspect and much of lustful sex was considered a sin. I would think if anything some deity like or similar to Tlazolteotl would be more on the homosexuality thing than Xochipilli. Although his twin is Xochiquetzal a patron of female prostitutes, I've never really seen any source that considers him equal in that respect. Xuchilbara 01:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)