Talk:Vince Colletta

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[edit] Reason for deleting wikidate overlinkage

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[edit] Eddie Campbell on Colletta

He has some interesting things to say about hsi current reputation (and this entry) [1]. Worth a quote. Something like:

My personal theory about the decline of Colletta's reputation ... is that none of the reprints of the work have ever been adequate. ... In the years when I attempted to 'reconstitute' my collection of the Lee-Kirby-Colletta THOR, I noticed how poor the later reprintings of the stories always were. ... All Colletta's charming qualities, the softening lines and subtle textures tended to go blank. The finest lines disappear, unless they're close to other fine lines in which case they congeal into one thick line. Second generation versions of those great favourite books of mine never satisfied my longing to re-obtain the experience of my first readings. A fair assessment of Colletta can only be made on those first printings.

I'll leave it to the experienced editors to call that one but it'd give it some extra balance. (Emperor 00:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC))

I'd have to agree. Campbell is notable, and his point isn't pure opinion but an analysis. What do other editors say? -- Tenebrae 00:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I've gone over Campbell's essay, and I just can't kind find any analysis that Baeza and Comtois don't already say. The one quote that might be useful ends vaguely and without really saying what he means, but what he doesn't mean. ("Colletta augmented the inherent strength of the design by contrasts of texture, of flesh and hair, wood and fur and steel, looking forward to a different kind of heroic epic that would become popular later. I'm thinking of the Lord of the Rings. A return to that kind of old-worldly adventure was unglimpsed at this stage in our progress, when we still thought we were all going for a trip to the moon, and the ideal was all shiny and perfect and automated.") Campbell's remark about Colletta's work suffering in reprint would have been good, except that, as he says, he hasn't seen the Masterworks (which are, in fact, due to glossy paper, modern printing equipment and computer-enhanced color, actually far better than the originals, which I own).--Tenebrae 17:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erik Larsen on Colletta

Again I'll leave this for the experts to decide what to integrate into the article, but it is an interesting piece [2] - he had some work inked by Colletta and was outraged but, with hindsight, he sees how he softened some of Kirby's art and helping with the focus of the art so when it works (as in his work on Thor) it works well. The bottom line is that he was a hack but a professional hack and could ink a whole comic book overnight when it was needed. (Emperor (talk) 15:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC))