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Contents 1 Last name? 2 Why? 3 Grammar School 4 Film Version Only 5 V for Vendetta Template 6 TfD nomination of Template:V for Vendetta 7 Phonetics. 8 Comic Book, Valarie's "supposed" letter 9 Valerie's Letter

[edit] Last name?

Was this invented for the film? I don't recall her having a last name in the comics. Owen 05:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's in the novelization of the film.- JustPhil 12:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

It is in the graphic novel on the movie posters for The Salt Flats.

[edit] Why?

Why do we have entries of this nature in Wikipedia?

There is minimal value here. An encylopedia should focus on classic and important information.

I mean, what next: an encylopedia entry for every single minor character from every film and comic every created? Ludicrous. The likes of the Valerie Page entry devalues Wikipedia in my eyes. Anything goes.

On a similar theme, someone has created a Wikipedia entry for every single minor character in Final Fight video game. Again, see above.

[edit] Grammar School

I'm not sure what to do with this bit. I've linked to the page for grammar schools in the UK but as you can see for yourselves, it's impossible for her to have gone to this sort of school in 1985 (she could have gone to a selective school or a single-sex school, but not a grammar), though 1957 is a different matter. It's an error in the film, but I'm not sure what to say in the article. Eriathwen 19:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Not that impossible - from the most recent version of the article you link to (possibly updated since you read it):

"There are still 164 old-style state-run grammar schools in existence."

I lived near Salisbury, Wiltshire, in the 1990s and there were a few Grammar schools in the area.  This flag once was red  09:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Film Version Only

I'm concerned that the only depiction of Valerie's life presented here is the one from the movie. The article only talks of America's War with the Middle-East, and makes nop mention of WW3. It would be much appreciated if someone could change somehow.76.184.12.173 00:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] V for Vendetta Template

I'm removing this template from all its articles:

v • d • e V for Vendetta Works Graphic novel | Film | Film novelization | Soundtrack Creators Alan Moore | David Lloyd Characters V | Evey Hammond | Eric Finch | Valerie Page | Adam Susan/Adam Sutler | Minor characters See also Guy Fawkes | Norsefire | Storm Saxon

Which, I agree, is fairly provocative. However, I don't see how "V for Vendetta" deserves this on its own, or what useful information it provides. Surely the links in the articles are sufficient? If people want to revert my changes, that's fine by me. But please reply to this post so we can get a discussion started. At the moment I see no reason why the template should exist. Maccy69 13:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted my previous edit and requested a template deletion instead, see below. Maccy69 17:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:V for Vendetta

Template:V for Vendetta has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Maccy69 17:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phonetics.

Just thought that it would be interesting to add that Valerie was, most likely, if not doubtless, inprisoned in room number 4, Roman numbering "IV", which is also a phonetic form of Evey, V himself obviously notices this not-coincidence, and I thought it would be an interesting trivia to add to this article. 217.208.24.113 (talk) 19:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Valeria was definitely in room 4 - when Evey asks who Valeria was, V replies "She was the woman in room four". (The next scene is Ruth Almond at the Kitty-Kat Kellar — in changing room 4). That said, trivia sections are discouraged and the main article already has far too much (IMHO) fan-cruft about numbers. Cheers,  This flag once was red  22:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comic Book, Valarie's "supposed" letter

I've made a few (minor, I hope) changes and thought I'd better explain them here:

Firstly, V for Vendetta was first published as a series in the British comic "Warrior", before it was collected as a graphic novel.

Secondly, I understand why a previous editor wrote that Valarie's letter was "supposedly" written by Valarie, but feel the use of "supposedly" is wrong: it suggests that Valarie *didn't* write it, and all we know for sure is what V tells us - that he found the letter. Evey may well be reading a copy (I'd hope so!) but it doesn't diminish the fact that - as far as we know - Valarie wrote the original. To suggest otherwise is original research or speculation.

Hope this isn't too controversial!  This flag once was red  09:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Valerie's Letter

I've removed the text below from the page, as I *think* it's a copyright violation; I'm prepared to listen to arguments as to why it might be fair use ;-) Incidentally, there's already a link to the text of the letter from the comic from the article; though I'm not too sure about the legality of that either.

==Valerie's Letter==

I know there's no way I can convince you this is not one of their tricks, but I don't care, I am me. My name is Valerie, I don't think I'll live much longer and I wanted to tell someone about my life. This is the only autobiography ill ever write, and god, I'm writing it on toilet paper.

I was born in Nottingham in 1985, I don't remember much of those early years, but I do remember the rain. My grandmother owned a farm in Tuttlebrook, and she use to tell me that god was in the rain. I passed my 11th lesson into girl's grammar; it was at school that I met my first girlfriend, her name was Sara. It was her wrists. They were beautiful. I thought we would love each other forever. I remember our teacher telling us that is was an adolescent phase people outgrew. Sara did, I didn't.

In 2002 I fell in love with a girl named Christina. That year I came out to my parents. I couldn't have done it without Chris holding my hand. My father wouldn't look at me, he told me to go and never come back. My mother said nothing. But I had only told them the truth, was that so selfish? Our integrity sells for so little, but it is all we really have. It is the very last inch of us, but within that inch, we are free.

I'd always known what I wanted to do with my life, and in 2015 I starred in my first film, "The Salt Flats". It was the most important role of my life, not because of my career, but because that was how I met Ruth. The first time we kissed, I knew I never wanted to kiss any other lips but hers again. We moved to a small flat in London together. She grew Scarlet Carsons for me in our window box, and our place always smelled of roses. Those were there best years of my life. But America's war grew worse, and worse. And eventually came to London. After that there were no roses anymore. Not for anyone.

I remember how the meaning of words began to change. How unfamiliar words like collateral and rendition became frightening. While things like Norse Fire and The Articles of Allegiance became powerful, I remember how different became dangerous. I still don't understand it, why they hate us so much.

They took Ruth while she was out buying food. I've never cried so hard in my life. It wasn't long till they came for me. It seems strange that my life should end in such a terrible place, but for three years, I had roses, and apologized to no one.

I shall die here. Every inch of me shall perish. Every inch, but one. An Inch, it is small and it is fragile, but it is the only thing the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away. We must never let them take it from us.

I hope that whoever you are, you escape this place. I hope that the world turns and that things get better. But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you. I love you. With all my heart, I love you.

-Valerie

(Taken from the film V For Vendetta)

 This flag once was red  06:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)