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This needs to be expanded. Car salesman 15:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Color and meaning

Can we cover the various colors and their meanings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.33.232 (talk) 18:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anon addition

In humans, urinating on feet can be an effective way of eliviating athlete's foot. Additionally there is some evidence indicating the use of urine applied to the face as means to control acne.

Added by an anon with no ref, so I placed it here. --DanielCD 23:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Madonna told David Letterman that, but she seemed stoned at the time, so I would recommend another source. CrossEyed7 21:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Even if there were a reference for that, it would belong on the human urine page, not here. 152.163.100.203 19:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

ADD A PIC?????????????????????????? Actually it isnt an effective way at all. Urin containts the substance urea which is used in almost all athletes foot medications, however it is only used as a way of softening and opening up the skin to the other chemicals in the medication. Urea alone does not have any anti-fungal properties.

[edit] Sterility of urine

I have an issue with the following:

Urine is often sterile, but if the person or animal has a disease, the disease could appear in the urine. Additionally, any bacteria on the skin can contaminate urine.

First, what does 'often' mean? Second, the 'disease could appear' seems too vague. And third, 'bacteria on the skin could contaminate urine.' ...Um... Bacteria and other microbes from LOTS of things can and will contaminate urine once it leaves the body. I think the section should read something like:

The urine of healthy individuals is sterile, however some illnesses (particularly infections of the urinary tract or kidneys) can result in temporary or periodic bacterial contamination.

I think the whole sentence about what happens to urine once it leaves the body should go.--Anchoress 00:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Dear Anchoress,

Urine is always sterile in the bladder of a healthy human being. The first source of possible, though very light, contamination with bacteria is the urethra, when the urine is excreted. The second source of bacteria are parts of the genitals, with which the urine might come into contact while flowing out of the body. The third source is bacteria, mold seeds, pollen etc. flying thru the air and "raining down" into the urine, when it is collected in a bowl, glass or bottle.

That's why you should not catch and drink the first few seconds of a piss ( first source of contamination ), and drink it within a minute after pissing ( third source of contamination ).

To eliminate the second source of contamination, proper washing/bathing/showering of the genitals is advised.  ;)


[edit] may require cleanup

I would like to point out just how hilarious it is that an article on urine is adorned with a sign that says it "requires cleanup". That is all.

LOL you're right!!--Potty Time 01:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm amazed that this article is so short; look at Penis for example! Shandristhe azylean 19:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Short? What are you calling short?--Anchoress 20:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

"Healthy urine is a clear aqueous solution, varying in colour from dark yellow to colourless" ... what? --Nick

I find it funny it asks for an expert in the section to do a cleanup... im not sure but how do you class a urine expert, and would you want to be known as one :P 70.68.195.23 06:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the cleanup should be just backup. I can add some structure. I'm surprised that munitions could be a section. Brewhaha@edmc.net 08:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Well its true that urine can and is used to create saltpeter, common to most explosives. Although in modern times its usually used in home-made "labs" of teenagers looking to blow something up in their yard. I have found nothing in google searches using urine from an industrial manufacturing stand point in any time line.--DeusXechelon

[edit] Need medical references for the health aspects

The health aspects of urine need medical references to substantiate the points which very possibly seem to be myths.

Very possibly true. However please don't annotate articles; a cleanup or verify tag for the section would be more appropriate.
I'm not putting {{fact}} tags in, because what I haven't heard before

strikes me as true.Brewhaha@edmc.net 08:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Health section - urine as an antiseptic

Personally I don't think the text about urine being used as an antiseptic - both the statement itself and the info about urine storage succeeding it - should be kept in the article. Even if it is referenced, I don't think it's encyclopedic. IMO it's like stating in the muffin tin article that muffin tins can be used to collect rainwater; true, but irrelevant. I also think it's bordering on an instruction manual, which Wikipedia is not.--Anchoress 01:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually after reading the Health section carefully I don't think it belongs in the article in its present form. I've removed it and placed it here, because it's POV and frankly a little unbelievable. It should be supported by sources before reinsertion, IMO.
Health
Fresh urine is sterile and may be used as an antiseptic - for the sterilization, the urine has to flow directly from the urethra onto the wound. It is important to know that once the urine has left the body, it becomes an ideal breeding ground for a wide range of bacteria, which multiply in it at an astonishing speed. Urine which is older than a minute is not suitable anymore for consumption, and should not even be used externally.
Urine is absorbed into the body quicker than water or juices through the stomach, which makes it a natural choice for recovering desiccated patients in the absence of more technologically advanced methods.
The alternative medicine of homeopathy has rediscovered a range of other uses for urine, ranging from the direct treatment of skin to the consumption of urine.
--Anchoress 01:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree that that there is a problem here. The statements made above are contradictory in nature. If urine becomes a breeding ground for bacteria, how is it that it is an antiseptic, which by definition retards the growth of bacteria? If what was said is meant to say is that urine can be used to wash a wound instead of some questionable source of water, then I would be more inclined to agree but would still like to see a reference to some medical work. Patris Magnus 16:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Comment moved and re-written Patris Magnus 02:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jellyfish Stings

I removed the following section as it is un-cited, and simply put, the sterility of urine has no effect on the sting of a jellyfish. If urine chemically nulls the sting of a jellyfish, will the OP or someone else please provide a citation and/or a chemical reaction chain to show this effect?

It is also useful to use urine on a jellyfish sting as it is sterile.
According to the book "Why Do Men Have Nipples?" urine is not a good thing to put on a jellyfish sting, though since I don't have the book with me now I can't provide citation and can't remember the reasoning behind it Pnkrockr 14:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
According to the book I mentioned above: "In laboratory tests, urine, ammonia, and alcohol can cause active stinging cells to fire, which means applying them has the potential to make a minor sting worse, so urinating on a jellyfish sting is both gross and painful."

Mark Leyner and Billy Goldberg, M.D. Pnkrockr 00:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I believe this "myth" came from an episode of "Friends". As I recall, Monica, Joey and Chandler were walking on the beach and Monica stepped on a Man-o-War. Chandler peed on her stinging feet to stop the pain.

[edit] Roman Laundramat

I was watching a Discovery production of the last day of Pompeii recently. One of the characters was a fuller (cleaner) and in the production they showed urine being used in the cleaning process as it removed stains better than other "cleaners".

[edit] Watersports and "Piss Porn"

Is this really a significant enough feature of the topic to merit inclusion in the initial lines of the article, or is it better relegated to a backalley later in ther article, or with a link to Urolagnia or something? Frankly, featuring it so prominently seems to me to harm the credibility of the article. --Rrburke 20:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Upon further reflection, I believe that you are probably right. I was just moving something that was out of place in another area and cleaning up the grammar. I'll pull it. - Patris Magnus 15:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cocaine detection periods in a urine drug scree.

I am a recovering cocaine addict and the last time I used was Oct.18 2006. I was on a 2 month binge using almost every day intraveneously. I took a urine test on Friday the 27th and tested positive and again last night and still tested positive. I know for a fact that I haven't used. HOw can this be?

[edit] American sensors distaste of urine

On a lot of tv dvd commentaries I hear how the American TV sensors hate two things above all else, wee and poo jokes and cursing against the christian god. Even as far to get around this they can't use yellow liquid in sketches for pee, only clear water. My point is, is it worth adding that pee is obviously stigmtatised even in todays relatively liberal media? JayKeaton 04:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

  • It would be best to cite an authoritative observer who has drawn that conclusion already. --Dystopos 04:46, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Good idea, I didn't think of that JayKeaton 11:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] shouldnt be used to clean open wounds, why?

i have always just told my self that urine shouldn't be put on a wound because "IT'S URINE!". but i recently heard on Penn and Teller's Bullshit and read on here that it is pretty sterile. this made me wonder if it would be safe to put on wounds. but then it says on here that it should not be put on wounds. is this because of the contamination from the skin? or is it just not sterile enough or have some 'ingredients' that would do more bad than good? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.158.221.226 (talk) 18:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC).

The urine of a healthy person is sterile. But you're right... IT'S URINE!!!!!11!!!11!!!1!! There's no good reason to put urine on a wound. It's acidic and therefore an irritant; it contains particulate matter, dead cells, etc, even when it's healthy, it isn't a very good or even a fair antiseptic, and... IT'S URINE. It may contain sugars, protein and other things that bugs consider good to eat, and it may contain bugs. Anchoress 12:52, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd place it only slightly higher than sea water from the gut of a shellfish on the list of things with which to wash a wound. Simply put, the only time I would wash out a wound with urine would be if it was severely contaminated with dirt and there was no fresh water available. Patris Magnus 22:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Urine

Ironically this article is as good as waste matter. easytiger 21:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Urine smell

At times, when I urinate, my urine has a strong odor. Why is that?

lmco

lmao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.184.228 (talk) 03:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brimstone?

Brimstone? What are we writing here? The bible? It's sulfur or sulphur.

In the period in which families were making gunpowder by hand at home, they used the more common names for many substances. Saltpeter and brimstone were words in common use in the US through the beginning of the industrial period, ergo, my use of these words. Patris Magnus 17:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surviving by Drinking Urine. Fact or Fiction?

Pretty self-explanatory title, but I've heard conflicting arguments...Now to hear the opinions of many many Wikipedians.

In the long term, the build up of toxins in the system may be of issue if urine is continuously consumed. In the short term, if you are loosing water faster than you can replenish, such as you might if stranded in the desert, the drinking of urine can keep you alive a little longer. Patris Magnus 17:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Its not the toxins as much as the salt content in the urine that got me wondering. If you drink saltwater in any form than you get thirstier and die a lot quicker.

Not exactly true. If the concentration of salt in the liquid you are drinking is higher than the concentration of salt in your cells (hypertonic), such as would be the case if you were to drink sea water, then yes, you will accelerate dehydration. In the case if being in the desert where you are losing water through sweat as well as urination, if you were to save your urine and then continue to sweat, the urine would actually be a hypotonic solution after a while, thus being an emergency source of water. There is a recent story of a distance runner that got lost in North Africa and had to survive off of eating bats and drinking his own urine before he was found. Interesting stuff Patris Magnus (talk) 20:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Urine Composition: Demographics (Suggested for Removal)

Section seems pointless, and doesn't make any sense. Unless I'm missing something. Drake 22:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Well I managed to understand it, but it is unsourced and doesn't seem particularly relevant, so I say go ahead. Or if you want to be more generous, see who added it (I don't think it's been there very long) and ask the editor to reference/expand/justify it. Anchoress 01:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The article does make sense it however does need to be expanded upon and sources cited. --Deusxechelon 23:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)--DeusXechelon —Preceding comment was added at 23:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Urine as medicine?

I've read that urine was used as medicine in Ancient India. Dhammapal 09:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

IM BORED r u bored? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.233.19.25 (talk) 23:26, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures of actual urination

In order to provide a clearer idea of what this article is about as well as to simply improve its overall quality, I think an image of actual urine leaving an open urethra would greatly improve this article. As of now, there are no pictures, so an image of a gaping urethra pouring out vibrantly neon urine would do wonders for the betterment of the article. --GoatSmoke 02:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

wtf dude03:04, 20 November 2007 (UTC)03:04, 20 November 2007 (UTC)75.45.184.228 (talk)tilde
If you or anyone needed a picture of this then i would suggest memory exercises, because you probably urinate 2+ times a day. Krmarshall (talk) 06:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Golden Showers

i think that some information about golden showers should be able in this article, or create a new one for this beautiful act, thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.166.46.38 (talk) 02:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Synonyms

There should be a section on this article that lists other terms for urine. There are several (piddle, pee, etc.), and these need to be listed on this article so that they can be cited. Without citation of these terms, there is no basis for having a link to urine on the piddle and pee disambiguation pages. These citations cannot be included on these other pages because disambiguation page guidelines prohibit citations. This is due to the established practice that no information should exist on a disambiguation page that does not also exist on an article linked in one of its entries. A synonyms section is necessary in order to justify these entries on disambiguation pages.

Neelix (talk) 14:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] pics

We need some pics of urine on this article so people who don't know what urine looks like can see what it looks like. 74.38.85.31 (talk) 02:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


I think this should be deleted we know how to pee right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.96.0.236 (talk) 03:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is it safe to drink?

Maybe we could add a paragraph in there about its edibility, how many times can you drink your own urine if ur in the dessert ect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Varsponic (talk • contribs) 20:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Needs Pictures!!

Seriously, This article could use some pictures of wee, as long as they are educational and tasteful. Retro Agnostic (talk) 02:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)