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[edit] Year of Niall's Death
"a semi-historical High King of Ireland who died about 405." Most historians now tend to place Niall's death much further into the fifth centuary, so I'm replaceing 405 with c.450, the current educated guess. Fergananim
[edit] Family Tree redo
I'm recreating the Ui Neill family tree with Template:Familytree. Image:Icons-flag-scotland.png Canæn Image:Icons-flag-scotland.png 02:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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That's nice work! Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unsavory part
Yeah, I added that part... I'd read about it in books for years. I'm still trying to hunt down an exact set of references. Makes me wonder how some traditions develop and stick... - Gilgamesh 23:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- It's from Giraldus Cambrensis, The Topography of Ireland Chapter XXV. How reliable Giraldus is considered I don't know. --Nicknack009 00:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Francis John Byrne (Irish Kings and High-Kings, p. 18) says "Obviously, therefore, he [Gerald] is not to be trusted implicitly. It is significant that he does not claim to have witnessed this right, but places it in a remote corner of the country where no conquistador had yet penetrated. Nevertheless, it is unlikely that Giraldus could have invented the whole story, for we find horse sacrifice associated with kingship rituals among many of the Indo-European peoples. The asvamedha of ancient India and the eating of horse-flesh by king and people in Norway, to which even the Christian Hákon the Good had to submit, are obvious parallels. On the other hand, Adomnán, himself a member of the Tír Connaill dynasty, regarded the eating of mare's flesh with particular abhorrence five centuries before Giraldus." And so on. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
If you could read you'd see it applies to the Connails not the O'Neills. Sloppy and stupid, don't do it again. 83.70.219.86 17:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
A little conveniently it is about people responsible for killing G's relative & idol, Maurice FitzGerald , in battle. If you knew it "Connails" are Ui Neill, not just "O'Neills" (If Ui Neill is in fact a real group, not just a pack of lies of 8 C Cenél nEógain kings to garner respectability) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.217.76 (talk) 18:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
