Talk:Tom Strong

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[edit] Nazism/Ubermensch

That Geoff Klock "Tom Strong is associated with Nazism" thing is fucking idiotic and I'm removing it.

A brief points:

Not only is it completly unjustified, but if you go take a look at Paul Saveen's version of millenium, he's replaced the Statue of Harmony with an image of himself doing the hitler salute.

If Moore wanted to associate Tom with Nazism, he would have had Saveen replace the Strong-hold's Tom Strong statue- not the statue of harmony- to achieve this parallel.

The argument that Tom still uses a propeller pack, thus is nostalgic, thus is linked with fascism is about as weak as it gets.

Tom's primarily an explorer- always learning and discovering new things. This isn't a sign of nostalgia at all.

I don't know if there's a place for it, but I think there is something very ubermensch, maybe bordering on cryptofascist, about Tom Strong. The Tom Stone story line draws it out the most... but I'm just speculating and I don't think there's any analysis out there to separate this from original research. wasserperson 03:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

My interpretation is that he can sympathise with otherwise completely umsympathetic characters (Ingrid Weiss) because he can see how a complete upbringing in the high gravity lab would have turned him into just such an unbermensch. It is his teen years amonsgt the Ozu which helped give him the proper grounding to become a fully rounded human being. Obviously the situation is a complex one and it would be interesting to see a more indepth analysis if you can find one. (Emperor 18:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Expanding

The entry is strong on bibliography but needs... more (excuse the pun). In particular I was thinking a Characters section would be needed. If we can find sources something on themes and references to specific influences would be good too. (Emperor 18:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC))