Talk:Timeline of the Irish Republican Army

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I'm not sure how helpful this page and its off shoots really are. We already have a Chronology of the Irish War of Independence, a Chronology of the Irish Civil War and a Chronology of Provisional IRA actions. I feel this project would largely be covering the same ground.

Jdorney 11:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

• Jdorney,

The majority of the information was transfered from the old Timeline of terrorism (since deleted), which I have gradually been putting in more specific timelines. Idealy, the timeline is intended to cover a much broader range of activities regarding Irish nationalist organizations both preceding and predating the "original" IRA. While I realize the title may be misleading, an alternitave such as "Timeline of Irish nationalism" might be misinterpreted the same way. MadMax 00:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't really see the point of that. We could have a timeline of Irish history, but there is much more to that than the IRA. There is also much more to Irish nationalism than physical force. We already have chronologies of the most intense periods of IRA activity, so creating the 1919-23 and post 1969 pages here would just be duplication.

On the point of a start date. It makes no sense having pages pre 1913 at the earliest. The IRA began life as the Irish Volunteers in 1913, a militia formed to counter the creation of the Ulster Volunteer Force and make sure that Home Rule was passed (The IRA still refers to its members "volunteers"). While the IRB was involved in infiltrating this movement, it remianed a separate organisation. In fact it maintained a separate existance until 1922-23, when it disolved itself. If you want a chronology of IRB activity, it needs a different article. The same goes for Clan na Gael, which remained in existance from the 1850s into the 1930s. The rebels of Easter Rising, a militant minority of the volunteers, were the first to describe themselves as the "Irish Republican Army", but the name was only formally adopted in 1919, when the Volunteers swore allegiance to the First Dail, government o the Irish Republic. So you could concievably start this chronology in 1913, 1916 or 1919, but not before.

Jdorney 08:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)