Talk:The X Factor (TV series)

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Contents 1 My Sandbox 2 Needs more "business" information 3 Talk pages 4 Cleanup

[edit] My Sandbox

In my Sandbox i am currently changing this page this page to make it more about The X Factor in general and not just about The X Factor (UK)

Please Discuss the changes here User talk:In23065/Sandbox —Preceding unsigned comment added by In23065 (talk • contribs)

If you're going to copy another article's format, I think it would be better to make it like the similar Idol series, rather than the Big Brother series. I do agree that it should be about The X Factor in general though, so well done. ^anemone│_projectors 17:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Needs more "business" information

The newly "internationalised" article The X Factor (TV series) is in need of significantly more background information about how the internationalisation of the show works in business terms: for example, who owns the rights, what the rights actually constitute, why anyone would want to create a national version of "The X Factor" rather than just doing their own thing, whether the same production company creates (or assists with the creation of) shows in different countries or each country has its own production setup, and so on. All this stuff needs explaining. Matt 14:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Talk pages

I notice that Talk:The X Factor (TV series) redirects here (to Talk:The X Factor (TV series)). Going forward do we think that's a good idea? I don't want to change it unilaterally if it was done for a good reason. Matt 14:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC).

I take it you mean Talk:The X Factor (UK). It redirects due to a page move (moving a page automatically moves the talk page too). I'll delete the redirect, as the article it's attached to isn't a redirect. ^anemone│_projectors 21:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, I garbled my message. Yes, I meant Talk:The X Factor (UK). Thanks for fixing it; I wasn't sure if there was some good reason. I am also going to move most of the above messages to Talk:The X Factor (UK) as they nearly all relate to what is now at The X Factor (UK), not to what is now at this page. Matt 01:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.53.193 (talk)

[edit] Cleanup

I think that this article is a bit of a mess -- not the big table, but the rest of the text. It was originally cobbled together from bits of the article about the UK series without, as far as I can see, any proper "internationalisation" or attempt to verify that the statements are true for all countries. And then there are bizarre statements like the UK version being a "variation in the format" -- specifically a "special pan-regional version" -- and an extremely specific statement about the Danish show which probably ought to go somewhere else. The article is lacking any information at all about the franchising process, or how the business side of things works, which is really a major part of what it should be focusing on. This is not a criticism of any individual editors... I'm as much to blame as anyone for not improving it. Matt 02:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC).

• I added a "cleanup" banner, but I'm not sure if "cleanup" is really the right word -- I just think the article needs major improvement. If you feel it's inappropriate then please feel free to remove. Matt 03:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.43.251 (talk)