Talk:The Kids in the Hall
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What's the name of that sketch with the dude who had a list of things to do in the day and wouldn't divert from the path even if he was held hostage by bank robbers?
- On the DVD and most episode guides, it's listed as "Things To Do".Raymondluxuryacht 03:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
This really needs cleanup. The opening section is too long and should be divided into a few more sections, such as history and style of comedy. ReverendG 00:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
IS THIS A radio comedy or Tv? if so in the List of Comedies it should go in the TV section. - fonzy
According to the offical Kids in the Hall website, their troupe name comes from Jack Benny, not Steve Allen.
My longtime-question is, who is the actress who played the, "It's A Fact" girl? :-o
[edit] Adding the King of Empty Promises to Infamous Sketches?
What is the consensus on this sketches popularity? Is it well known enough to make it into the list?--68.206.175.114 00:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think it's as valid as any on the list. It's easily recognizable and (IMHO) one of Kevin's funniest bits. --Happylobster 20:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- It definitely ranks as one of the troupe's most popular sketches. There was a follow-up sketch (which features Kevin's character in prison) which should be mentioned as well.Raymondluxuryacht 03:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Adding the Fuzzy Bunny sketch to Infamous Sketches
I'm not even sure whether it's Fuzzy Bunny or Fluffy Bunny, but there is a recurring theme on one episode--three or four members of the cast are in bunny suits and speak in rhyme. Later it is revealed that they are actually drunk college students. Everybody I know loves this one.
- Nutty bunnies, mate. They're nutty bunnies. --Happylobster 21:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Business Men...
Shouldn't there be a section on here about business men? I recall these guys were constantly making fun of the concepts of yuppies and business people...great stuff.
[edit] TVRage.com Link
I added a link to TVRage.com's page for the show. The place has an actual episode guide, which is more than I can say for the rest of the links posted at the bottom. It also has dates, sketch information, and a number of other sources of info that the others do not have. This is not an ad site, this is an actual guide to the show. If you bothered to check it and not just delete it on the fly Cleduc, you'd see that. If you're going to list IMDb and it's horrible excuse for a guide, then TVRage gets to stay. JohnQ.Public 10:12, 16 October 2006
- No spam and external linking to websites, especially ones where you have an obvious personal stake. See WP:SPAM and WP:EL. --Madchester 17:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removing Infamous Sketches
Was that really necessary? I don't think it was particularly "long-winded", although I would've removed "the Soaking Competition" and "Sixth Kid in the Hall." - BNLfan53, Saturday, 2006-11-04 T 14:54 UTC
- I think the move could be supported easily. Wikipedia is about verifiability, so by whose standards are they infamous? With no way of objectively deciding if a sketch was "infamous" or not, the list was growing as everyone's own personal "infamous sketch" got added to the list. This could be re-added, but only after some means of objectively deciding if a sketch should be added or not is determined. - Vedexent (talk) - 16:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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- I do think there should be a listing of notable sketches outside those featuring recurring characters, simply for completeness's sake. As for what criteria to use to determine notability... that might be trickier. We might try drawing from the sketches included on the seasonal "best-of" releases. Those episodes have commentary from the Kids themselves, so we might glean from their comments which sketches they feel are noteworthy. We could also look up critical reviews of the show, or perhaps check for fan polls.Raymondluxuryacht 17:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] CabbageHead
When watching repeats of the shows on CBC and the Comedy Network in Canada, I noticed a complete lack of sketches featuring the CabbageHead character. Was this because the character was only featured in a few seasons (and those seasons were not being shown) or was there some other reason? Mruss 16:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
It was most likely because of his hyper-sexist attitude, although it was still funny. --24.57.97.56 19:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] The name
I'm going to have to check this out: The name of the group came from Sid Caesar, who, if a joke didn't go over, or played worse than expected, would attribute it to "the kids in the hall," referring to a group of young writers hanging around the studio. For years this was erroneously attributed to Jack Benny, though the Kids themselves offer a corrected version of the origin of the troupe's name on the DVD release of the show's pilot episode.
One of the earliest edits attributed it to Steve Allen. I corrected it to Jack Benny (after finding sources) There's this Boston Globe article for example:
- With comedy that is by turns arcane, lurid, absurdist and sly, whu are
- these clever men known as kids? "When Jack Benny would walk into 30
- Rockefeller Plaza to do his radio show," McKinney explains, "there were
- all these comedians who were not hired by show but people were hoping to
- sell a gag. As Benny walked to the elevator, they would pitch these gags,
- and if he used one on the radio and it worked he would say, 'That was one
- from the kids in the hall.'"
-***NEW KID IN TOWN; Mark McKinney Comes in From the Hall to Talk About the Comedy Troupe's First Movie*** from the Boston Sunday Globe, April 7, 1996 by M. Gilbert
Actually, this is a little suspect since Benny did most of his shows from Hollywood. -Dhodges 12:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
I updated this with the Caesar info.
I don't claim to be an expert on the subject but it's the Kids themselves (minus Bruce) who offer the Caeser version of the story on their most recent DVD release. It's in the extras on the pilot episode DVD which just recently began shipping from their official site and will be available in stores on August 14. The extras are pretty recent too. The troupe sans-Bruce was recorded together during the clip where they offer up the Caesar version of the name's origin, and while that means it wasn't recorded at the same time as the audio commentary because Scott & Kevin were in Toronto and Dave & Mark were in LA it does look as if they were recorded very close together and in the audio commentary was recorded the day Tony Blair announced his resignation (Mark refers to it) which would put the commentary recording session on May 10 so these are recent clips of the Kids.
Perhaps the best way to present this info would be to list Allen, Benny and Caesar as possible sources of the name since there seems to be some uncertainty but I doubt anyone will be able to find a more recent attribution than the pilot episode DVD release.GuruAskew 04:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kurt Cobain thing
Where's the proof about that whole thing of Kurt being a fan of the show, having met Scott and all the members attending his memorial service? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Herecomesyourpixie (talk • contribs) 03:27, August 22, 2007 (UTC). Scott Thompson talked about it when he was a guest on the internet-based Tom Green talk show.
[edit] Removed section
I took the liberty of removing the entire section for other (non recurring) sketches, as none of them are significantly notable. Calgary 06:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
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