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Contents 1 Article quality 2 Smudge 3 Editor 4 Strip list 5 Editor of the Spectator 6 Bash Street Kids came before Dennis the Menace 7 Rewrite 8 Sources 9 Moved lists 10 Fair use rationale for Image:Beanologo.png 11 Repeated Stories

[edit] Article quality

Is it me or is this article fairly poorly arranged? It seems to be more a list of random facts than a proper resource people would be able to use to research the comic. There needs to be more about it's lengthy history, how and where it's written, it's stylistic trademark etc. Also that Beano superstars section needs an explanation or deletion, there's no explanation of what it means. Given that the Beano is so iconic for so many Brits of all ages, it should have a much better article. Abigsmurf 09:51, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smudge

Disambiguation required. the 'Smudge' link goes to a band called Smudge. The Beano character needs a stub page. Sorry, but I don't know how to sort out disambiguation so any help would be appreciated.

Oops. When I added the link last year, no page called 'Smudge' existed. I've now changed the link to Smudge (comics). BillyH 03:19, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Editor

The present editor is Euan Kerr, who has been in this role since 1984.

Is this true? Can anyone else detect something amiss in this name?!?

--Smallbone10 19:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Despite the unfortunate pronounciation, it's true. That's his name. BillyH 19:31, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Strip list

I believe that the list of current and past strips needs some modification (with consensus and research). For example, Billy the Cat and Katie should probably not be listed as a past strip, rather as an occasional current strip (it runs in series?) Whilst as of 2006 Les Pretend only seems to appear in annuals. Gordon Bennett has also been absent for a while (but not really long enough to be a past strip IMO) --RK 16:56, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

How about Ill Will? I'm not too sure as I haven't seen a Beano in years.--213.7.2.8 14:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editor of the Spectator

Matthew d'Ancona has been appointed to replace Boris Johnson as editor of The Spectator magazine.

This was reported by the BBC News Website on 13 February 2006 - although Boris Johnson resigend as editor in December 2005 when he was appointed to David Cameron's shadow front bench as Higher Education Minister.

[edit] Bash Street Kids came before Dennis the Menace

It first appeared under the name "When the bell rings" and later became "The Bash Street Kids". It underwent this name change before Dennis the Menace first appeared, so I think the change is justified.

Well, yeah...but name changes don't really count. Dennis, despite minus Gnasher, still first appeared three years before The Bash Street Kids, so it's still technically the longest running strip. The addition of 'and Gnasher' to the title was simply a renaming based on his new sidekick, not a completely different strip entirely. BillyH 07:34, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Changed back for the reasons I've described. BillyH 16:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite

The strip seems to have been picked at recently without really being improved. I have tried to correct the errors (doubtless introducing some new ones of my own), and rewritten to follow Wikipedia standards, including some references (not enough), a lead section which is only a brief summary of what is repeated later, and a new paragraph on the iconic nature of some of the characters. Comments? Remove the rewrite tag? Notinasnaid 11:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Tags removed, if there any other ways you can improve this article then please say so on it's peer review page. Thanks. Retiono Virginian 16:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

This article now has sources. Since Wikipedia rules require sources, this is a good thing, though lots more are needed: a lot in this article has no source, and may be personal research (such as the list of strips). Anyway, with sources comes a particular change to the way of working, which may well be much harder work: the source is now dominant over the content. If the content is to be changed you must make sure that the part of the content which is sourced is still accurately described by the source. Adding more accurate information is wrong, unless the source is updated. The final aim is an article where everything is sourced, so it becomes obvious when anything unsourced is added, so it's easy to remove or tag with {{Fact}}. Why am I saying this? To explain why I reverted this change. Notinasnaid 19:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moved lists

The list sections were gargantuan. I've moved them to their own page, and put the link in the "see also" section. Nswinton 20:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Good call, I think. I've integrated the link by moving it into the "Strips" section using the "further information" tag. Notinasnaid 20:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Beanologo.png

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Repeated Stories

I have noticed that The Beano coming out each week has got old strips in it. I know this because I have actually read the stories when they first came out and I still have some. The most obivious repeat is that Wayne the new bash street kid is not in the bash street kids stories anymore. There also are repeats of minnie the minx and bily whizz.--Darkside2000 (talk) 13:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Wrong. Wayne appears to have been dropped after a year. Minnie is new stories, Ken Harrison was assigned her after losing his Desperate Dan duties. The current reprints are Billy Whizz, Ivy the Terrible, Fred's Bed (from merged Beezer and Topper) and Riot Squad (occasionally, from Hoot). Digifiend (talk) 12:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Minnie's main artists were, in order, Leo Baxendale (1950s-60s), Jim Petrie (1970s-90s), Tom Paterson (2000s), Ken Harrison (2008). I think you must have got Ivy and Minnie mixed up. Digifiend (talk) 12:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well Bash Street Kids may be a reprint of old stories because I have read the one about the computer bugs before and I still have comic or annual to prove it.Darkside2000 (talk) 11:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, some stories recently seem to be remade, not reprint - one story sounded familiar, until Bea the Mini-Menace appeared. Don't remember that originally, and that story was just a couple of weeks ago. Also consider the fact the artwork style has altered over the years. There was a Nigel Parkinson strip a few weeks ago though, I suspect that was a reprint, and the same for anything in BeanoMAX. Digifiend (talk) 11:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)