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[edit] Spider Man 3 spoiler

Can someone add a spoiler warning to the description of spider man 3? kinda began reading it without knowing there was a spoiler in there...Mindflayerz 02:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC) But in Spider-Man 3 Eddie jumps into the bomb Peter threw... so where did he go? Spider-man freak 17 6/4/07 4:49

[edit] Toxin's Mindset

What is the mindset of Toxin's symbiote (the only one "good" one)? Must the host control it's actions as much as the others do? --Viridis 22:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

There was a mini-series on the planet of the symbiotes in the mid-ninties, in the Super-sized Spiderman's.

Is that miniseries canon? --Viridis 23:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I believe so, as ther Super-sized Spiderman's where equivalent of annuals for that year.

[edit] A symbiote virus

Wouldn't it be interesting if someone in the Marvel Universe came up with a virus version of the symbiote, invading the human DNA and cels of people instead of just their bodies, putting the whole population on earth in danger? Maybe in some alternative future where everyone were infected, even the super heroes and villians.

- I think that it actually would be neat if a symbiote bonded with something other than a human, like a Bear-Carnage, or a Venom-Dog. I do agree that one infecting a germ would be neat, but I don't see how it could be defeated by someone in the Marvel Universe.

Venom hooked onto a dog and a crow in the Venom: Run arc, but only to travel, and there was no visual change (hid in black fur/feathers).--Viridis 09:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
But there was a visual change with all the cockroaches the clone bonded with to avoid the nuke that was dropped on him and Wolverine.

[edit] Black widow?

I don't agree that the symbol on Venom's chest (and sometimes on the symbiote's chest independently) is necessarily a black widow spider - it does not have the characteristic red hourglass marking. To me, it appears just to be an abstract, stylized spider. Saying it is intended to be a black widow is conjecture at best unless you can cite a source.

[edit] Spider-Man 3 Picture

I uploaded the older picture of the smbiote (#1), but I replaced it with what I thought was a better one (#2). Why was the second one removed? I hope you don't mind, but I'm changing it back. --MrRandomGuy 06:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

  • 1. 200px|thumb|The old symbiote pic.
  • 2. 200px|thumb|I thought this one was beter.
I've made a gallery using both images and the newly released image of it bonding to Topher's character. "Better" is highly debatable, expecially since it was removed from both pages and nearly deleted. BTW, when you place an image in an article after it's been marked for deletion, remove the template. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 20:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Appropriate imagery

I think it's important that I clarify something. This is a dumping ground for images. One cannot simply "pick and choose" a symbiote/host combo image and place it here. The original may be accused of favoritism toward Venom, but notice that there are no images taken from that article. The images here should display only symbiotes. A symbiote fully bonded with someone is just another character image that probably already belongs somewhere else. Point is, stop adding Toxin, Charage, or any other character to this article. A Symbiote alone or in the process of bonding is okay. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 21:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the Origin

I really don't believe that John Jameson brought the Symbiote to Earth. You're confusing the origin with the one from SP:TAS. I'm not even sure if it has even been confirmed, or if someone has been watching far too many fan-trailers. If it is canon, please tell me where you found this info, until then, I will wait for a safer time to take the text out.

67.160.13.149 10:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)Darkton

Wow...more brillance. New comments at the bottom, first off. Try clicking the plus sign. Second, look at the citation. Move like in the Spider-Man 3 film articlem, this article cites its sources. Don't remove anything...in fact, don't even touch the page until you better understand how information is added or removed on Wikipedia. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 19:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I only did that 'cause I didn't really see the citation. It didn't really lead me anywhere. Well, I guess since it's true, I'll have to believe it.

67.160.13.149 12:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Darkton

No it's not true. But people here on Wiki seem to think it is. Wait for the movie to be released. Dark Spidey 04:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Carnage the thousandth?

I remember reading the Venom vs Carnage TP a while back (it's the arc where Toxin is born), and I was pretty sure that it said Toxin is the thousandth, not Carnage. Can someone clarify that? Dac 10:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I read that, too. Toxin is the 1,000th. Where exactly here does it say Carnage?--Viridistalk|contributions 10:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Two places. End of the "Origin" paragraph: "While the number of symbiotes in existence at present is unknown, Venom tells Carnage that he is the nine hundred and ninety ninth in his line, and making Carnage's offspring Toxin the thousandth and first(Carnage being the thousandth)." That, I think, was a mistranslation of what Venom is saying. I think Venom is telling Carnage that he, Carnage, is the 999th.
The other instance is in the "Personality" paragraph: "according to Venom, this could also be because the thousandth symbiote of the line is subject to mental breakdown (though, as noted above, Toxin is the thousand-and-first)." That parenthesis is therefore incorrect. Thanks for clarifying. Dac 11:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Symbiote's Weakness and abilities

I though I remember reading some where that symbiotes can only expand a certain length or can they just grow non stop. Also I read that electricity just surged over their body without any affect or does it have an effect. The minute I know for sure or the minute some one responds here I shall put the info back into the article. Thanks 8:43 April 2 2007 (UTC)

All your edis seem very unverifiable and unneeded judging by a quick glance. I think electricity was only really a weakness in the Ultimate version. The regular one just seems weak to fire and sonics. I'm sure they're a limit to how far the symbiote can strech, eventually they'll run out of mass.
I remember one story where Venom was extending so many tendrils trying to hit a foe that there wasn't enough left to cover all of Eddie's body and some spots were left open to attack, so there is a limit to how much they can cover.--Viridistalk|contributions 03:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for helping me but one thing, the reason why I put that the symbiote is weak to electricity in the regular marvel universe is because of that time when Electro fought Black Suited Spiderman. I though Electro beat the crap out of hime and some of the weakened symbiote fell of Peter into a sizziling puff of smoke from the electricity. Is that acurate or should I delete it?
I'm not sure... I've never read that. Can you list an issue or something for someone with access to this to find it (I don't)?--Viridistalk|contributions 17:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it was from the spectacular spiderman issue either 135 or 125. One of thoes. If it's inaccurate should I just delete what I put about electricity being a weakness of the symbiote?
Yeah, I think so.--Viridistalk|contributions 19:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay I'll delete it. O yeah I remeber now. Excuse me for my stupidity. I remeber that electricity just ran over the suits. Sorry for my blindness. I just read that. Oh and not trying to be a know it all. I read that symbiotes can expand as far as they want as long as they have an object or something to do it on and around. If you have any problems with these changes I just added please tell me. Thanks. ManofSTEEL2772 But if a church bell rang(sonic sound is a weakness of symbiotes) would it hurt the host? Reply soon! Spider-man freak 6/4/07 5:04

[edit] Bonding

I was wondering, you know how symbiotes need to bond with something, usually humans, to live. Well, I was wondering if a symbiote could like take on someone with superhuman powers. I know the Venom one did to Spider-Man but I'm saying for instance what if the only thing a symbiote could find is someone like Sandman, or Hydro-Man. Would the symbiote be able to grow inside of them and bond with them or not, even though both of them can cause sand storms and tidal waves? Thanks!!! ManofSTEEL2772 9:28 p.m. 13 May 2007

Yeah, thanks for the help everybody! ManofSTEEL2772 8:26 p.m. 17 May 2007

COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP HERE! ManofSTEEL2772 9:10 p.m. 22 May 2207

yes they need to bond to stay alive since they need adrenaline and that other chemical that comes from the brain and chocolate. as for bonding with sand man and hydro man its unknwon but if carnage manage to bond with the silver surfer then sand man and hydro man should be easy.--Vipa Human 02:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the help, no sarcasim, i promise. I just was wondering if possible how a symbiote could take over someone if they are like in sand storm form. Anyways thanks for the help! ManofSTEEL2772 May 23 5:43 p.m. 2007

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Aliensymbiote.jpg

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[edit] The Other?

I was wondering howcome sometimes in the comics, wearers of symbiote refer to them as their "other" and should that note be added to the page? - RVDDP2501 15:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure, something small, maybe. Find a place for it.--Viridistalk|contributions 02:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other symbiotes

edited the other symbiote section. No major changes, just cleane it up abit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.227.10 (talk) 20:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LF symbiotes

Someone has taken away the LF symbiotes names from the article (Lasher, Phage, Agony and Riot). I realise that they were created by fans and are not thier official names but they are better known by these names now and could be considered canon considering what happened to scream. (Scream was a fan name for the LF symbiotes leader but in 1999 a comic was published refering to her as Scream. I'm jus gunna put it back to how it was until someone gives a reason why it should stay as it is. 81.98.227.10 (talk) 23:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

If you realise that they are fan names and not official Marvel names then there is no justification in editing them back in. We're supposed to contribute facts. Nothing is official or canon until Marvel says it is.
Scream was never a fan name for the yellow symbiote character. She had an action figure produced in the Spider-Man: Venom: Planet of the Symbiotes toy line from 1996. The slim green symbiote character also had an action figure produced named Lasher. Unlike Scream, Lasher's name has never been used in a Marvel publication, but it still exists on an official Marvel product and so could still be considered his "real" name.
The other three Life Foundation symbiotes did not have action figures. There was an action figure called Riot, but that was a four-armed character who had never appeared in the comics and had a biography on the back of the box that made it clear he was not one of the five Life Foundation symbiotes.
Phage is short for Xenophage, an alien from the Venom comic books that is not a symbiote - it eats symbiotes. The Xenophage action figure was called Phage. I have absolutely no idea why a certain fan chose to use this name in reference to one of the Life Foundation symbiotes, it's a completely separate and unrelated character.
The name Agony comes from nowhere. It was just made up.
Allow me to reiterate, the only two Life Foundation symbiotes officially named were Scream (the yellow one) and Lasher (the green one), both in the action figure line. The only one to have their name carried over into the comic books and publications is Scream.
Officially the others do not have codenames until Marvel tells us otherwise. Let's not purposefully spread misinformation. --Crazy Penguin (talk) 20:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not really spreading mis-information. The fact is that these characters are better known by thier fan names and if anyone was really interested then they'd click the link and find out for them selves that the names are not official. If I was on the net and saw a link saying "Leslie Gesneria's symbiote" I wouldn't know what it means but if I saw "the Agony symbiote" I would, (and I know I'm not alone on that) and I think that at the end of the day that's what matters. 81.98.227.10 (talk) 22:25, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Proof of webbing compared to spiderman 3 the movie toys.

http://www.toyrocket.com/Spectacular-Spider-Man-Black-Suited-Spider-Man-With-Wall-Hanging-Web-Action-Figure-P44781C2854.aspx ( Spectacular Spider-Man black suite webbing on face picture)
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/dragonballzcentral_1994_786308222 (spider man 3 black suite webbing),--Lbrun12415 04:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)