Talk:Superman curse

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Additional info: As far as Teri Hatcher is concerned, until she landed Desperate Housewives in 2004, it was widely considered that her career was on the decline after Lois & Clark. Prior to this, she was probably most notable for her work in the Radioshack commercials with Howie Long.

  • Lane Smith, who played Perry White on Lois & Clark died of Lou Gehrig's Disease in 2005.
  • Mark Pillow, who played Superman's nemesis in Superman IV never had another prominent role again. I believe that Superman IV is one of only two of Marc Pillow's acting credits.
  • Richard Lester, who was the credited director for Superman II and directed Superman III entirely, effectively retired from filmmaking after making The Return of the Musketters in 1989. Lester was distrught because he apparently, felt partially responsible for the death of actor Roy Kinnear, who died during after falling of his horse.
  • The much detailed production problems surrounding Superman II and Superman IV can also be included in the "curse."
  • Marlon Brando, who played Jor-El in Superman: The Movie had several personal tragedies later in his life. Most of them involved his children like his daughter's suicide and his son being convicted of murder.

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"...it was widely considered that her career was on the decline..." by whom? Cite one source. A glance at her filmography indicates that her career was no better or worse after Lois & Clark than it was before. She's simply a B-list actor with a couple of high points in her career, namely Lois & Clark and Desperate Housewives. If you are going to sling weasel words, prepare to be challenged. Roy Kinnear's death had nothing whatsoever to do with any Superman production, and I have justifiably deleted it from this list. Claiming that his death was part of a Superman curse has as much validity as saying that Lindsay Lohan's drug and legal problems are part of the curse because she once dated someone who watched Superman. Anyway, the curse pertains to the actors who portray Superman, not to tragedies or career misfires that happen years after the fact to people tangentially affiliated with the role. Adding extraneous items just because you feel that they must be related to some sort of curse doesn't make them so. As far as the rest of the world is concerned, the curse extends to the unfortunate injury/death of Reeves and Reeve, and to the career-ending typecasting of Reeves, Alyn, Newton and Christopher. The rest of this list is garbage. 71.204.204.249 17:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questionable statement

"Those who don't believe in the curse should consider that although both Bud Collyer and Teri Hatcher did gain fame after their Super assoiation but the former died at an early age of 61 which is uncommon for a rich man in the United States."

Uncommon for a rich man in the United States? It's not uncommon for anyone to die at 61, no matter how much money you make.

A rich man is more likely to live longer than a poor man or a middle class man because he has more money than them,giving him access to a healthier life (good food,excercise programs,clean home etc.)Nadirali 15:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali


[edit] Hilarious

Some witty person has made some snide tongue-in-cheek comments at the end of each piece of "curse" evidence: ___________

In 1963, U.S. President John F. Kennedy's staff approved of a Superman story in which the hero touts the president's physical fitness initiatives, scheduled to be published with an April 1964 cover date. On November 22, Kennedy was shot and killed but, at the request of successor Lyndon Johnson, DC published a reworked version of the story[2] Some believe that Lex Luthor was the gunman on the grassy knoll.

Comedian Richard Pryor, who had previously suffered from a drug addiction that lead to an almost fatal accident, starred as an anti-hero in 1983’s Superman III, but later took Superman's side near the end of the movie and became a hero. Three years later, he announced that he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. He died of cardiac arrest on December 10, 2005. It is undisputed that his appearance in the movie caused his disease and eventual death. Had he not appeared in the movie, he likely would have lived forever.

Richard Donner, who directed Superman: The Movie (1978), was hired by the Salkinds to direct Superman: The Movie and Superman II. With the compeletion of the first film released and about 25% of the sequel left to finish, Donner was fired from the project and director Richard Lester was hired on to finish and direct Superman II. Around 50% of Donner's film was scrapped and re-shot by Lester delaying the theatrical release by a few years until 1980 (Superman II was released in 1981 in the United States). In 2006, Donner released his version of Superman II on DVD with all of his footage restored (deleting most of Lester's film) making Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut a close estimation of what it could have been if he was allowed to finish it. Spooky, right? ______________

They are absolutely hilarious! It just goes to show how bad Wikipedia is that these remain undetected. The whole page is trivial though. Perhaps our usual prima donna editors, with their delusions of grandeur, think it is beneath them to check the quality of pages like these?

Anyway, I am guessing the Wikipedia fad will end as the novelty fades away. Wikipedia won't die; it will still be around but as more and more discerning people realise what a poor source of information it is, it will be marginalised. Thanks to whoever added those tongue-in-cheek comments, both for your humour and for proving why Wikipedia is rubbish. 210.50.60.1 00:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

  • The above comments tell it like it is. 124.169.181.231 (talk) 13:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

If it's so bad, what are you doing reading any article of any variety on Wikipedia? And if the comments are so hilarious, why bring it to anyone's attention for deletion? Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.... Alan 24.184.184.177 (talk) 21:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missing someone?

You left out one big one, Dean Cain, who portrayed him for 84 episodes alongside Teri Hatcher in the Tv Series Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. And what of Smallville? That shows doing pretty well.

-Alan 24.184.184.177 (talk) 21:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


What about Brian Singer? His latest Tom Cruise epic has gone way over budget and more than half the film was destroyed at the lab. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captaincalcium (talk • contribs) 17:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)