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Diamond Craters

Hi there- any plans to make a page about the Diamond Craters? Seems (at least to my non-geologist mind) like a pretty major absence in the Oregon volcanoes realm. -Pete 18:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Pete, I definitely think Diamond Craters is worthy of an article, it is an interesting area (although it is relatively minor on the overall scale of worldwide volcanic features). Have you been there? I've visited the craters in May 2002, but only spent about an hour driving around and taking numerous photos. I had no time for real exploration since I was on my way to Steens Mtn and the Alvord Desert that day. There is a nice 17-page paper about the craters in The Ore Bin, 1964, which would form a solid foundation for writing an article.
But most of my Wikipedia time right now (since March 17) is being taken up with placing {{Volcano}} tags for WikiProject Volcanoes on 100s of article talk pages, so article creation will probably have to wait (unless you want to go ahead and do it). The tagging is a very boring and monotonous task, but I have been fixing and improving many of those volcano articles which is why the task has taken much longer than I expected (I thought it would only take a few days). We've placed about 1300 tags so far, and probably have several 100 more left to do. Then I can get back to writing articles, which is much more fun and interesting than tagging. --Seattle Skier (talk) 03:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Interesting to hear it's minor - from a non-geologist perspective, it seems major in comparison to the barren landscape around it. I was there, yes, in June '03 - also just drove around a bit, climbed down into one of the craters. Strangely enough, I was just leaving Steens and Alvord. I have a few photos around somewhere, maybe something worthy of uploading...here's one, of a hunk of rock. Anyway, maybe I'll make a stub, or contribute if you get around to creating one. Thanks for the response! -Pete 04:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and created the article, it's already past stub-class with a GVP photo of a lake-filled maar. I never saw any water there (past Malheur Lake) when I went, so I'll have to go back and search for this particular feature sometime in the future. By the way, that 1964 Ore Bin article is available online as a PDF, lots of interesting info in it. I'm off to other things now. I'll add more text and photos sometime later. --Seattle Skier (talk) 20:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Ski resorts in Australia category

Hello, you nominated Category:Ski resorts in Australia (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for renaming, which it is (now Category:Ski areas and resorts in Australia (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)). However, the by-state subcategories are still unnamed. I'd nominate them, but then I wouldn't feel able to close to the CFDs. Thought you might be interested in nominating those too. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I'll put all three of those subcats in a single CfR right now. There's also the question of what to do with the 24 subcats of Category:Ski areas and resorts in the United States, all of which are now named "Ski areas of ...". It would probably be best to put all 24 of those in another CfR and make everything consistent. I just looked through all of the countries in Category:Ski areas and resorts and could find no other subcats in need of attention. --Seattle Skier (talk) 19:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Dellys

My source was User:Mustafaa who came from the region. Please consult with him for more precise sources. - Gilgamesh 18:48, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

List of volcanoes in Indonesia

Why does it say "List of volcanoes in Indonesia" if it has information? Most of the other lists don't have information, just a list. I think its better off having the information separate like the others, such as Volcanoes of Canada, Volcanoes of Iceland and Volcanoes of Antarctica. Black Tusk 18:45, 05 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you on that point. It would have been better if there had been a separate "Volcanoes of Indonesia" article initially, before the the "List of ..." was expanded so much. But now that the List of volcanoes in Indonesia is so well established, so much work has been put in by others, and it has reached FA status, I think the only reasonable course is a merge. Eventually, that article should be renamed to "Volcanoes of Indonesia", because it is much more than a simple list. But that is harder to do, we'd have to ask an admin to do it because an article already exists at the "correct" title. It seems counter-productive to try to write a new competing article from scratch. We should do the merge now, and then rename the existing article afterwards. --Seattle Skier (talk) 06:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Agree. Black Tusk 24:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

re: copyvio

replied [1] here and added an admin notice here. --W.marsh 17:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Gases and Gasses

Thanks for the message, i did a quick check on google and it seems that gases is the more common spelling than gasses, doesnt matter either way -- sorry to be pedantic ;-)

Braindigitalis 01:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Duvalo

Dear Seattle Skier,

There are almost no references available, the volcano is not so known. I only have a macedonian reference and i had a english one but i can't find it anymore. It is indeed a volcano, it is in fact the only active volcano on the Balkans. I've seen it and i've smelled it :) If you are trying to improve Wikipedia, that's impossible, than you should probably edit and even erase almost the half of all the articles.

Yours sincerely,

Makedonia 17:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help.

My apologies, I'm new to this and still trying to figure how it all works. I won't make that mistake again, thanks for cleaning up the mess I made.

Joe Calzarette

Unit display templates

You may be interested to know that I asked if the Category:Unit display templates should be deleted. See Category talk:Unit display#Are these obsolete? -- Patleahy 23:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

No, they are not obsolete and should not be deleted. I have replied in detail at Category talk:Unit display#Are these obsolete?. Thanks. --Seattle Skier (talk) 20:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Etna

I checked CNN right before I reverted it... It's not that I didn't try to check my facts it's that CNN did not have it at the time on their website so I assumed that it was just someone being a jackass; rather than investigating further. Snoop0x7b 20:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking before reverting, there was no way to tell if you had from the edit summary. No big deal. But we should WP:AGF even for anon IP edits if there's a chance that the edit is constructive. I'm sure we can expect a wave of schoolkid vandalism to that article now that it's in the news, since it was being heavily vandalized 2 weeks ago before I requested semi-protection (which expired on April 3). If it gets bad again, I'll put in another request. --Seattle Skier (talk) 20:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

userbox cleanup

I saw your message on WP:AN. I've been planning to do the cleanup of PatPeter's userbox spree. Manually, though. Anyway, see User:Pumapayam/Userboxes/User cub for an example of how I toned down the wp:bite. I think that can be used on any of the userbox pages he changed. I'll be doing this soonish, within the next week. You can nominate those Wikiprojects for WP:MFD if you want to, or I can, if you'd prefer. Let me know. — coelacan — 10:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking on the task of cleaning up PatPeter's mess, it's like Hercules heading into the Augean stables. I think you toned down the bite very effectively on that example above. I'll go ahead and put those WikiProjects on MfD right now. --Seattle Skier (talk) 16:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Guyot

It used to be the case that "deleted" images were removed from the server. That is no longer the case. For the past several months it has been possible to retrive deleted images. There are exceptions to this if the photo was libelous or had absolutely no value. The image in question here was a work of NOAA, an agency of the US govt. Works of the US govt (with come exceptions) are inneligible for copyright and are in the public domain to be used freely. See Work of the United States Government.

Therefore, I restored the image and re-added it to the article. Best, Johntex\talk 22:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Great, thanks for your help. That article is much better with an image. It's also nice to know that images are no longer removed from the server upon deletion. --Seattle Skier (talk) 22:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Message

I am well aware of that apparently we make mistakes sometimes. Xavcam 04:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Reply on my talk page

Hi, just a note to let you know I replied to your message on my talk page. -- Avenue 03:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Updated DYK query On April 17, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Queen of Oak Bay, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Hello Seattle skier and thanks for writing this fantastic article, which was kindly nominated by GeeJo. Do feel free to self nominate in the future and happy editing. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Coords

Thanks for the inputs on coords. I was actually trying to be consistant with the values on the mountain articles and it seems I was only spreading the problem. I'll clean up the entries as I go along. --Burntnickel 11:44, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I hate to follow up to myself, by I was wondering if there is a fix for the leading zero problem. It looks like to the coord template eats leading zeros in the minutes and seconds. I've included them in the inputs to the template, but the seem to disappear on display. --Burntnickel 12:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that it is preserving leading zeroes properly, if they're typed in. I've haven't used {{coord}} yet, only the deprecated {{coor dms}}, but both seem OK per these examples:
The leading zeroes appear to be there (at least in my browser). But I think if you enter decimal degrees, then it eats the leading zeroes and somtimes even converts incorrectly:
I'm not sure why the template doesn't just display dd.ddd° if that's the way a number is entered. I'm going to ask about this and the conversion errors on the template's talk page. --Seattle Skier (See talk tierS) 18:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

reply on my talkpage

Hi; replied to your comments at my place. Skookum1 05:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Re Volcano tags

I was adding tags for WikiProject Iceland, but I was not aware of how exactly the WP Volcano would like to work. My mistake and sorry for creating unnecessary work for you now. --Michkalas 08:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Franklin Glacier Volcano

Hi Seattle Skier, are you sure Franklin Glacier Volcano is not a major Cascade volcano? because it is on this map [2] if you look in the middle of the page, it's with the other major Casacde volcanoes. Black Tusk 43:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Black Tusk, thanks for asking me. Various maps of the Cascade arc include different volcanoes. I'm certain that almost no geologists would say "yes" if asked the question directly, "Is Franklin Glacier Volcano a major Cascade volcano?". The reasons are several, including its small amount of eruptive volume and minimal height/prominence. Its relationship to the rest of the Cascades is also unclear, since it is north of the Nootka Fault. The Franklin Glacier Volcano is an obscure and little known region of volcanic outcrops, it is not a major volcano like Mount Meager, Cayley, etc. It is certainly worthy of having a Wikipedia article about it (thanks for creating it), but we should be careful to not give it an undue degree of prominence or importance by including it with other indisputably "major" volcanoes in the {{Cascade volcanoes}} template.
Both the Franklin Glacier Volcano and Mount Silverthrone share the issue of uncertain relationship to the rest of the Cascade arc, and also share the degree of remoteness which has precluded any detailed studies of either volcano. Since about 2002, I've been trying to research those 2 volcanoes and find any papers written about them, but there appear to be none published. The only published info at all about them is a couple of paragraphs and small maps within larger papers, and those same paragraphs have been quoted in several subsequent papers.
I think it is OK (just barely) to leave Mount Silverthrone in the "Major Cascade Volcanoes" template, since it is about 9400 ft high and might be the highest volcano in Canada. But it has never even been determined if Silverthrone's 9400 ft high point is actually volcanic rock or not (it is covered by snow and ice), so Mount Edziza is actually the highest definitively-known volcano in Canada. Nevertheless, I think that Silverthrone makes the grade as a major Cascade volcano and Franklin does not. --Seattle Skier (See talk tierS) 22:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, ok I don't know alot about Franklin Glacier Volcano anyways. At first I thought it was not a major Cascade volcano because of the little information I could find about it, but when I found that map, it made me believe it was a major volcano because all of the other major volcanoes were on it, but I know it's shorter then the other Canadian Cascade volcanoes like Mount Meager, Mount Cayley and Mount Garibaldi. Do you know if there are any volcanic outcrops on Vancouver Island? Black Tusk 52:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
There are a few small volcanic outcrops near the northern end of Vancouver Island, which are known as the Alert Bay Volcanic Belt. But it's not much of a volcanic belt. It's so old (3-8 million yrs) and so eroded that there are no actual volcanoes left, just outcrops and exposed plutons. This belt is now north of the Nootka Fault which marks the break between the Juan de Fuca Plate and Explorer Plate, but may have been directly above the fault at the time it erupted. Interestingly, I've read that dacite quarried from outcrops in the Alert Bay belt was used as building stones for the British Columbia Parliament Buildings in Victoria. --Seattle Skier (See talk tierS) 05:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Seattle Skier. I was going to make an article about the outcrops on Vancouver Island, but I didn't know the name of them. I added some information about the volcanics near Alert Bay seven days ago, so I will probably make an article about them sometime. Black Tusk 12:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm curious now...I was attracted by the name Franklin Glacier as it resonated as similar to the Franklyn Arm of Chilko Lake, which flows down from the Queen Bess region. Since the Franklin Glacier Volcano is on the Waddington massif, and the spires on that massif look downright volcanic-plugish, and Silverthrone's a volcano, and there's volcanoes in the vicinity of the Lillooet Icecap....what is the geology of the main Waddington massif; just plutonic and the Franklin Glacier Volcano is an anomaly in the group? And the Homathko Icefield has always looked to me like an ice-filled caldera....Skookum1 04:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, the entire Waddington massif is plutonic and not volcanic. The spires are granite or granitic rock. As for the Homathko Icefield, I've been looking through the massive 800 page tome, Geology of the Cordilleran Orogen in Canada, right now to verify the answer, and the several maps showing volcanic rocks in that book have none in the region of the Homathko Icefield. The belt of volcanic rocks in the Coast Mountains is very scattered and discontinuous anyway, and it has a long gap from the Salal Glacier region all the way to Franklin Glacier. The Homathko is roughly in the middle of this gap, so it is most likely of non-volcanic origin. That being said, in a huge remote icefield like that, there could easily be volcanic outcrops which have not been found, and large areas of volcanic rocks could lie buried under 100s of meters of ice in the heart of the icefield. But there appears to be no published evidence for that. --Seattle Skier (See talk tierS) 07:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

NFC debate

Hi SS

The 10-day period for consideration of the copy-editing I've done on the criteria is nearly up. Are you OK about holding off on your proposal about including explicit mention of the living/dead people's pics until a later time? My intention is to achieve consensus about cleaning up the language and formatting of the existing meanings, with minimal or no changes in substantive meaning. This can be a platform for later proposals such as yours. Please let me know if you object to this strategy. Tony 23:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I do not object, since I think the language improvements are important. I just glanced at the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content, and I'll take another look when I have more time. --Seattle Skier (See talk tierS) 23:26, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

template

Must have been a mistake.. I'm also in a wikiproject and I know the importance of these templates... my apologies.. --F3rn4nd0 (Lima - Charlie - Over) 06:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)