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[edit] Restoring "negative" information

Someone keeps removing material which doesn't Rah-Rah Savvis.

[edit] The strip club incident

I reverted the edits by 64.241.204.165 (a SAVVIS IP, by the way!), as the "strip club incident" is extremely relevant to the article, and no mention from the previous editor as to why this was removed. -- The Deviant 22:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits by 66.159.176.147 regarding "bad data packets"

I'm not sure where User:66.159.176.147 came up with this information, however, it has absolutely nothing to do with the company, and is also provably not true. Some ISPs that purchase bandwidth from SAVVIS *may* do what the editor claimed, but SAVVIS itself does not. -- The Deviant 17:35, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soliciting spam

Many internet sources agree that SAVVIS has been fingered (by Spamhaus) for liaising with spammers and helping them to escape prosecution by changing their names and IP addresses for a small fee [1]. Shouldn't this be in the article? References include The Register, [2] and others. Just try a quick Google for 'savvis' and see what I mean. —Vanderdeckenξφ 09:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

This article reads like an advertisement to me. Perhaps someone could rewrite it so it sounds less like it's extolling the virtues of SAVVIS and simply stating the facts instead?'Net 11:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. Should read a bit more straight-forward now. --BHC 07:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Time to LOCK Savvis?

It appears that Savvis employees (changes keep coming from infrastructure IPs belonging to SAVVIS itself) are intent on destroying this entry, and replacing it with an advertisement for Savvis.

I have added material which restores the Scores and corporate culture issues, as well as some of the alleged spam support the previous poster talked about in the Register. I notice for the record that these edits are coming from IPs located in SAVVIS' St. Louis datacenter: clearly "inside jobs".

If Savvis insists on using Wikipedia as an instrument of advertising, perhaps we need to LOCK this page down?

Why are we removing core data like WCAS, stupendous losses suffered by this company, and the nepotism issue which nearly caused the collapse of Savvis??

[edit] Timeline issues?

It feels to be like the "strip club incident" and the savvis.info information should be grouped together in a better way. Currently, the "strip club incident" comes first, even though it happened later, and there's non-relavant information between the two. I don't have time to edit it at the moment, but I thought I'd throw the idea out there. :) JellyFish72 20:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Looming edit war over "Lapdunce" materials?

I do not want to participate in an edit war, either on this or any other silly edit. Nevertheless, I think that the material in question is a central part of the story being told here. NPOV is certainly not an issue, nor is the material without veriication (there are literally thousands of copies of this archived on the internet).

I took the liberty of reverting to the IP-72... edit, as the last edit has annotated that they believe their reversion was a "suggestion". I am reverting this based on my above argument, but reserve the right to undo my own edit (please dont do it for me) if you can make a cogent and reasoned argument for it.

Thanks!

[edit] Trying to contact the editor who is making these alarming reverts.

A copy that I left on the TALK page of the use in question, Kbh3rd. Hereis a copy of what I left on his/her personal TALK page, as he/her is clearly not reading this one:

"I made specific notes on the TALK page trying to avoid a war, and you have chosen to make changes to the page that have survived careful edits by dozens of editors for several years, all without a peep on the talk page of the article in question. While I believe your recent reverts to be both poor judgement and to have been carried out in arrogance (ie, no attempt to join in the communication process), I am trying nevertheless to reach you directly so we can discuss this prior to asking for higher intervention. The changes you are trying to delete are central to the paragraph (without the line you continually delete, the title endowed by the press makes no sense, and it was these two interlocking items which resulted in McCormicks [forced] resignation. I am a personal, first party witness (who can prove this through over four hundred MSM news articles that place me there, including such notable outlets as the BBC, Washington Post, CNET, etc.: I am definitely a party with first hand personal knowledge. I have also bent over backwards to maintain NPOV - to the point of standing by silently while entire relevent portions of this article have been butchered in the past (by IPs registered to Savvis legal, Savvis engineering, and even Savvis executive departments. I did this to avoid an edit war, and because it was possible to cleanly impart this information in ways that made all parties agree the article was fair, balanced, and accurate.

Now, after a LONG period of general agreement that this article was accurate, NPOV, balanced, etc., you have arrived - apparently without looking at ANY of the information on the talk page nor investigating the material itself, and made the opening overtures in an edit war.

I am asking you to please contact me. I don't think you actually read talk pages, so I'm not sure this will work, but I'm gonna try it, as it's both the right thing to do, and WP official policy. Next monday, if I have heard no response, I will be forced to ask for assistance and possible intervention by an editor with The Powers. Please help us to avoid this becoming a bloody and thereby useless excersize of mere bile: contact me so we can try and get this resolved. Thanks!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Measl (talkcontribs)

To which I replied:
Get a grip. This little edit was a simple prose-tightening copyedit to remove excess verbiage that to me is very obvious from preceeding content and therefore unnecessary on purely stylistic principles of English composition. If you think the article somehow falls apart without it, you can always add it back. Then try to grok this.
My most recent edit to the article prior to the one linked above was nine months ago. I'll assume you haven't gone so far off the deep end as to be ranting about anything that old. --Kbh3rdtalk 18:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Data Mining

I have nothing to do with the company and yet they're constantly trying to access my computer, anyone have met the same problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.222.28 (talk) 15:40, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I would make a guess that their IP address has made it onto a blocklist as it frequently appears in my Peer Guardian 2 list when I access certain pages that perhaps Savvis has some minor connection be as a provider for access or whatever, don't sweat it or you can continue to block them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.79.115.140 (talk) 01:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)