Talk:Rattle and Hum

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[edit] Colour footage shot on a soundstage?

Hey folks!

I have heard rumors that SOME of the colour footage in Rattle and Hum was not usable, so they had to set up the stage again indoors somewhere, bring the band back in and re-shoot those songs.

This makes sense for several reasons:

  1. 1 The Sun Devil Stadium shoot didn't afford as much prep time as the director and crew needed, and that was a VERY ambitious shoot
  1. 2 Many of the clips in that section seem to be much better exposed, and or shot on different film stock. These clips all seem to be from different angles than the clips that are not as well exposed, AND the 'lesser' clips often feature crowd/wind/atmospherics that the better exposed ones seem to be free of.
  1. 2A None of the better exposed clips show the stadium, or large steel structure supporting the stage.

I'll admit that this is all speculation on my part, but it all seems logical from the reasons I've stated above.

Can anyone shed some light on whether in fact this is what U2 and crew did?

thanks!

I believe it is correct. I remember reading something at the time with Bono "waving to the imaginary crowd". It wasn't a big secret or anything from memory.--Merbabu 02:39, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split into two articles

I think that the article should be split into two articles - one for the album, and one for the film. Since the film was released in theaters, I think it deserves its own article separate from the album. At the same time, the album deserves its own article as it is an album on its own, and not a soundtrack from the film. The album and the film are equally important, so the main article Rattle and Hum should become a disambiguation page, with links to Rattle and Hum (film) and Rattle and Hum (album). I would NOT say the same for Under a Blood Red Sky because its video release was not a mainstream film and should not be differentiated so much from its album. --Crashintome4196 01:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Oppose. No absolutely unnecessary. Keep album first on the page, followed by film. --Merbabu 02:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of "rattle and hum" term

I was recently reading Brave New World, and Huxley speaks of the "... hum and rattle [of machinery]..." (Chapter III). Is it possible this is what inspired the album title (or at least the phrase in Bullet the Blue Sky, from which it comes)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.100.55.108 (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

I think it comes from Bullet the Blue Sky. but you never know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Malcolmedge (talk • contribs) 04:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC).
That's right, Aldous Huxley stole it from Bono. ;-) Merbabu 04:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

A number of songs from this album have been tagged for merging here. These articles fail WP:MUSIC:

Most songs do not merit an article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for a prominent album or for the artist who wrote or prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. A separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; permanent stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album.

If any of these songs have charted, received any awards, been featured in major films or TV shows or anything else that makes them notable according to WP:MUSIC, please update these articles (with references) and remove the {{tl:mergeto}} tag. Otherwise, please merge them into this article for the album.

Could you please list the songs from this album that you would like to see merged? MelicansMatkin (talk) 16:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Silver and Gold (song)--Rtphokie (talk) 17:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Although it was featured in both the film and on the album, I'd suggest merging it into Where the Streets Have No Name instead, since that was where it made it's first appearance. It would be similar to how Slow Dancing was put into the article for Stay (Faraway, So Close!). MelicansMatkin (talk) 19:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. Would you mind taking care of that? You are far more knowledgeable about the subject that I--Rtphokie (talk) 01:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Sure, I'll just give it another day or two in case other editors would like to express an opinion about it first. MelicansMatkin (talk) 03:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Merged — MelicansMatkin (talk) 21:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)