Talk:Rónán Mullen

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!!! Copied from Ronan mullen !!! T0ky0 14:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


I tagged this page as candidate for speedy deletion, when the page was of one line only. I don't know if this person is notable in Ireland, I'm not Irish...

Nevertheless, this article lack of sources and hasn't, in my personal view (and I consider myself an inclusionist), still proved the notability of this person.

Also, I have to say that it isn't fair to remove the template of the candidate to speedy deletion, as clearly written in that template "do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself. If you created this page and you disagree with this page’s proposed speedy deletion, please add:".

So I have to add again the CSD notice, as in my opinion the article still don't prove the notability of the person.

I'll also add the hangon template, as you should have done before.

by Snowolf (talk) on 13:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


Fair enough. I didn't read the notice and should have gone that way. Sorry about that. Suffice it to say that this guy is known reasonably-well as an Irish journalist with a weekly column in a national newspaper. He is also on the national radio station and other radio stations reasonbably frequently as well. I will get more info. together and add it, along with links as soon as I get the time. I see a need for a list of Irish Journalists, for example.

I see where you're coming from, with a one-line entry - fair enough for you trying to keep wikipedia clean. My wikipedia style, however, has often been to add a tiny article only to begin with and then flesh it out later (or allow others to do so). So maybe I need to change my style!

Thanks and 'gomenesai' T0ky0 14:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Is he a member of Opus Dei or isn't he? Jaimehy (talk) 12:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.185.113.173 (talk) 19:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

A self-promotional article? A line I recently added "He is closely associated with Opus Dei" was removed without any explanation. Senator Mullen has mentioned his close association with Opus Dei on several occasions in his published articles in the Irish Press, while denying membership of the group.

I will reinstate the reference (slightly modified), as I believe it to be relevant, given Senator Mullen's well-known conservative views on matters traditionally of importance to the Roman Catholic Church. I will add a reference to Mullen's own writing in the public domain, to illustrate the point.

I would request that the reference not be deleted without discussing the reasons for the deletion.

My own view is that this article was originally created simply as a source of publicity for the electoral ambitions of the person being described in it, rather than as a neutral source of information on a figure that could hardly be more controversial in an Irish political context. If it were to become a habit to delete unwelcome references from the article, such actions would seem to support the view that the article is simply a piece of self-promotion, and should accordingly be deleted.Jaimehy (talk) 13:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I've reinstated (once more) the reference to Mullen's close association with Opus Dei. I'd appreciate it if it could remain there unless a reason can be given for removing it. This is not an advertisement for Mr. Mullen. Jaimehy (talk) 20:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I have undone the deletion of the reference to Rónán Mullen's close association with Opus Dei again.

The reference is fully documented (by an article written by Mr. Mullen himself).

Of course, as this reference is the only one that doesn't look like the contents of a CV, perhaps a better solution would be to recommend the article for speedy deletion. In my opinion, the repeated mystery disappearance of an obviously unwelcome (but accurate and well-documented) reference is evidence that the article is simply to further the subject's political career. Jaimehy (talk) 21:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)