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[edit] Suit

A Power Ranger is a fictional individual who "Morphs" from an unpowered form into a powerful superhero usually wearing a brightly colored battle suit usually made of spandex featuring a helmet with an opaque visor.[3]

"Opacity is the state of being impenetrable to light." <but light has to be able to pass though their visor otherwise it is useless so maybe thats not the best description for their visor's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peachey88 (talk • contribs) 12:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

"...featuring a visored helmet, which protects the wearer from injury as well as shielding their identity from others." Smoked visor works, too, since very few of the visors are ever mirrored. Howa0082 (talk) 22:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Foot soldier biographys

In the villain list articles, i wish to add biography sections of the foot soldiers (such as Putties, Z Putties, Cogs. etc...) to each of the villain list articles. Mythdon (talk) 23:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not all that necessary, and the article on such characters was deleted. All of them have minions like that, but we don't really need to say more than what they were called, I think.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:20, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
But what if somebody is curious of more about what they are. Mythdon (talk) 00:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Not everything needs to be added to Wikipedia because people are curious. Arrowned (talk) 00:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Seasons: Bulleted lists vs tables

I believe that the tabular list at the "Season" section is unencyclopedic as it does not explain much and only explains the name of the seasons, the year the seasons aired and the Sentai the seasons are adapted from. I know tables is basic among season listing, but in the case of Power Rangers i think it is totally unencyclopedic. Mythdon (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episodes that need to be deleted

The following episodes have articles but are not notable enough to have articles.

What do you think about this. If there are no further suggestions within the next 2 weeks, i will try to request they be deleted. Mythdon (talk) 04:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

That is decided by the community at large. If someone finds it and thinks it should be deleted, then so be it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Then i will request there deletion quickly at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Mythdon (talk) 07:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Popular culture

Hello there. For a year now, the section "Power Rangers in popular culture" has not been here and why?. Can i remake the section?. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mythdon (talk • contribs) 04:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where did this come from?

Im wondering, where did the terms "Other Ranger" and "Ranger-Like Ally" come from?. Mythdon (talk) 20:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Arbitrary names.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean by "Arbitrary names"?. Mythdon (talk) 03:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
No name was ever given for the group, so one was made up.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Wasn't there one page in Wikipedias policys/guidelines that said Wikipedia is not a place to coin terms. Mythdon (talk) 03:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
The term wasn't coined on Wikipedia. It is just used when there is no term to use for them.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Improvement suggestion

There should be a separate article entitled just Power ranger to deal with what a power ranger is, and the "color distribution" while this existing article should be solely about production/development (show stuff) of the series. And short paragraphs to summarize the plots of each titled season should be included in this article with links to each season's main article, like how most other media series' articles are formatted

Just a thought for improvement, Islandtimes (talk) 06:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pages moved

The following pages i have moved.

What is your opinions?. Mythdon (talk) 08:05, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Was there ever a name for the group of villains in Operation Overdrive? If not, it should probably be moved back.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 08:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay. And no, there was no name for the group of villains in Power Rangers Operation Overdrive. Mythdon (talk) 08:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crew member template created

Just so you know, i created a template called Template:Powerrangers-crewmembers. Is it okay to stay?. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mythdon (talk • contribs) 02:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I really don't see it as having much of a use where a category (or simply the category) would work.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I can see that becoming overflowed very quickly. El Greco(talk) 01:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I have just created a list called List of Power Rangers crew members. Is this list useful?. Mythdon (talk) 22:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question regarding exclusion of JF White/Violet from Colors table

I saw the summary for the recent edit removing the change I had made to the colors table. I'm curious as to why information that is verifiable is being excluded at the moment. I've done edits for similar situations (see my discussions in List of songs in Rock Band for an example) and the practice has always been to present the information once it's verified. TRTX (talk) 05:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, we do have the verifiable information, but right now we can't tell what will come first with the amount of characters added in the toy lines. We also don't have the actual names. We just have colors, which would make the footnotes for the section lacking.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Understandable. From the press release it mentions Wolf and Rhino Ranger, and includes a picture of the core team plus a purple and white Ranger. So we know that those two colors appear, and that two new Rangers appear. I suppose (looking solely at PR) we have no official confirmation that White isn't Wolf save for the appearance of the character. I'm not familiar with the "tradition" of the Toku Project, so I don't know if Sentai material (at least when it comes to mech, and Rangers) can verify PR content. TRTX (talk) 13:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Generally the Sentai can't verify PR in the case that the US team may not decide to do the same thing as the original, which is admittedly rare for major items (near impossibly rare on the mecha side), but has happened before nonetheless. Arrowned (talk) 19:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
That's what I was thinking. The last question I have is a combined one from here and in the existing JF page. Currently there's no mention of the RJ character's future as the Wolf Ranger. Or of his friend Dominic being the Rhino Ranger. This is again in the press release I linked to in the article. I understand that wiki has certain guidelines in regard to future information, however it would be beneficial to include a reference to these upcoming events.
As far as the footnote is concerned for the table. Would an adequeate footnote be something such as "Two new Rangers (purple and white) will be added later in the season." with a reference to the press release? (The one with the photo included). Similar reference could be included for RJ ("will become the Wolf Ranger later in the season") and Dominic ("RJ's friend, and future Rhino Ranger, who will join the cast later in the season.") These are paraphrased of course. I can also bring this up in the JF article if that is more appropriate. TRTX (talk) 19:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I see another editor attempted to add the check boxes for Rhino and Wolf, and was again reverted with no reason other than "No". I've yet to hear a good reason as to why they are not verified. They were in the Press Release. That is as concrete and verified as one can get. TRTX (talk) 12:05, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I think I've been fairly patient on this issue, and it appears that even with the "regular" editors stopping in for other changes and discussion this question is being passed up. So I'm taking WP's advice to be bold and am going ahead with the change. I've properly cited my source via WP:V. This is not based on the Sentai, but rather an official press release, which is as much proof as is needed. Also, there's no need to wait for the characters to appear, as the article is not about the order in which they joined. It's also no concern that they haven't arrived yet under WP:Spoiler, and I feel trying to withhold the information is in violation of neutrality. I respect the work that's been done on these articles, but I see readily available information missing and have added it in. TRTX (talk) 19:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Does the press release say what color the Wolf and Rhino Rangers are going to be? If not, then it's wrong to assume that they're "Other" or any specific color, just because that's what happened in the source footage (it's unlikely that they'll change the colors, but it's still original research to base it off of your own knowledge). Until they show up in the series, it's best to leave them off, because it's still not known if the three extra Rangers in the toys are going to show up at all in the series. Leave any sort of check mark off until they have their episode.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 21:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
"Just like the Super Sentai series that Power Rangers is based off of, the color palette of a Power Ranger team has varied greatly throughout the years." Sounds to me like the table is simply a tally of colors to appear in the series. This demonstrated by the inclusion of Omega as a White Ranger (rather than other) and Samurai Ranger as green. Since one of the new Rangers is white, a check box in white is appropriate. Since the other is purple, and there is no purple, that would be other. TRTX (talk) 22:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
It was the Green Samurai Ranger, and there shouldn't be a checkmark for the Omega Ranger as White.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I think maybe that's the problem with the table. It seems that it's unclear what the columns mean. Are the specific color columns referring to the colors of the core 3/5 Rangers only while "Other" refers to the traditional "6th" Ranger that appears later on? Or is other simply a column used to indicate that a ranger of a color "other" than the usual R/Blu/Y/P/W/G/Bla? TRTX T / C 04:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Theme Music

i recommend the cahnging of theme music from various to buckethead.. as he did make it —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexCorbin (talk • contribs) 13:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I have no earthly idea where you heard that, but it's incorrect. Each season has different themes, first of all, and second, the people who make these themes are clearly credited during the show's end credit sequence. Shuki Levy did the original theme, though Ron Wasserman was behind most of the rest of the early seasons' soundtrack. Buckethead is nowhere to be seen. Arrowned (talk) 17:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, digging into information more, I now see what something of what you're talking about. Apparently Buckethead had something to do with the soundtrack of one of the two movies, though in what capacity I have no idea; he's not credited on either of the market albums, nor did he do the scores. Either way, he had nothing to do with the themes. Arrowned (talk) 17:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Power Morpher move

A couple days ago i moved Power Morpher to List of Morphers in Power Rangers, and one of the reasons i did that was because we do not know whether the Morpher category is actually called "Power Morpher", so i moved it to List of Morphers in Power Rangers. Do any of you approve of this?. 05:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)Mythdon (talk)

This is the talk page for the article on Power Rangers. It is not the talk page for every page relating to this article.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 08:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I have just started a section on the talk page of List of Morphers in Power Rangers with the exact same purpose as this section. Mythdon (talk) 20:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Movement of team pages

I have recently moved the following articles;

Do any of you approve of this?. Mythdon (talk) 04:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

No. The names were at those places because it disambiguates the title very well. It makes more sense to have it at "X Power Rangers" than just "X Rangers." In the future, gain consensus before performing moves.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Checklist Issue

There's something wrong with the color checklist. Green ranger did exist in season 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.7.190 (talk) 23:48, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

This user is correct. The Green Ranger did make a number of appearances in season 2 prior to switching over to being the White Ranger. This should either be reflected in the checklist or addressed with a footnote explaining the absence. (Heck, the easiest way would be to group MMPR into one series of checkboxes and have a foot note that Green Ranger was replaced by White later in the series. TRTX T / C 19:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Color table

Even though Power Rangers is a joke, the Wikipedia article isn't. You are missing some markers to the color table in the newest series, that HORRIBLE knockoff of Juken Sentai Gekiranger that is called Power Rangers: Jungle Fury. One is the "Other" category, referring to the inevitable knockoffs of GekiChopper and GekiViolet, and the others I saw briefly in a toy commercial, green and black. Probably Fist Sage knockoffs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.218.109 (talk) 01:25, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

We already discussed this, not more than five sections up. The Elephant/Bat/Shark toys aren't confirmed to be actual characters, and won't be added unless they appear in the show, which hasn't happened yet. Arrowned (talk) 02:05, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History of Power Rangers

I think there should be an article on the history of the show (but nothing to do with the storyine), such as network changes, stuff like Power Morphicon and bla bla bla. Could an article like that be useful?. Mythdon (talk) 18:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Video games usually have a "Reception" section of the article. I'm not sure what the equivalent is for a TV series, but check some of those. A seperate article isn't needed, but perhaps a section. TRTX T / C 22:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode numbers: Updating vs waiting

I see no good reason not to update the episode numbers in the infoboxes every week. Other tv show articles update the episode number. Mythdon (talk) 02:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I was checking around and noticed that too. I think overall it's seems overly detailed and means extra work every week, but the idea is to have consistency across Wiki. Frankly I'd rather the overall approach for all of wiki just be a total episode count up through the most recently completed season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TRTX (talk • contribs) 02:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge requests

Due to article sizes i have requested these merges at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers;

And one more thing; When we make the Jungle Fury Power Rangers, and (optionally) Allies in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury articles, why not put the information in an article called Characters in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury instead.

Also, i am too lazy to put the merge tags on the articles right now, so can somebody do this for me?. Also, do any of you approve of this request i did?. Mythdon (talk) 05:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The characters have sufficient coverage separate from each other that they, as separate groups, have their own articles. There is no need to fix something that is not broken.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Do you think it would be breaking any rules for somebody to merge the above articles?. Mythdon (talk) 10:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Without consensus, it would be.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edit at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers?. Mythdon (talk) 09:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
No consensus. TRTX T / C 17:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Who asked you?. Mythdon (talk) 03:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Seriously? It's an open talk page. That and Ryulong explains his reasoning in the comment directly above yours. TRTX T / C 03:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I still think that S.P.D. Power Rangers should be merged into Space Patrol Delta, not to mention the two articles would fit perfectly in one single article. Can i add the merge tags to the articles if you are okay with my request to merge the articles?. Mythdon (talk) 20:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Villians of ______" naming convention?

Looking at the above section Mythdon started, I noticed that a few of the villian pages have names that differ from the "Villians of _____" naming scheme. While I can see the usefulness of this, would it maybe be better to name the articles in one common fashion ("Villians of _____" is a great convention), and then redirect the specific group name to the Villians page for that season? Just a suggestion. I originally had it posted in the same section so it made sense with the conversation, but it was repeatedly deleted rather than resectioned or moved to an appropriate talk page. TRTX T / C 03:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, if they have a name (like "Machine Empire" or "Troobian Empire") then by all means move them.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Ryulong, do you mean move them to "Villains in ______" or move them to "Whatever the villain group is named?. Mythdon (talk) 04:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Move them to whatever they are named. Villains in Power Rangers: Zeo is about the Machine Empire, which is why it should be at Machine Empire.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I want the Villain articles to be named the group(s) name (if any). So your saying you agree with me?. Mythdon (talk) 05:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Does it matter? I've made my opinion clear.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elements of a Power Rangers season

Is it me or does the "Elements of a Power Rangers season" section not explicitly say the main purpose or premise of the rangers (defeating evil) like in the "Series overview" section of the Super Sentai article? If its not prominently apparent in within the entire article (amid the production and technical details and descriptions) itself, then it should be included.

Rebel shadow (talk) 05:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Relation to Super Sentai

Since November, numerous IP users have removed information on the Power Ranger articles linking them to the Super Sentai series. I think this is all one person who either likes to vandalize or is being biased against Americans and/or Japanese. Check all the pages and you'll see what I mean? The Legendary Ranger (talk) 17:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, honestly this content isn't all necessary. I'd be more worried if they were removing it from the series' articles.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Colors

It should be added to this section a notation that the "Dai Shi" for Jungle Fury also has an unconventional color/armor scheme similarly to the Wolf Warrior from Mystic Force. For those who might disagree on the basis that he's a villain and not a ranger I only point again to the Wolf Warrior. While both are initially enemies the same as the WW did, the "Dai Shi" will eventually team up and combine powers with the Rangers. They both share the same source of power as well and control animal spirits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.73.41 (talk) 02:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

i noticed that on the Super Sentai page that they make a note of the Red and Blue being the only colors to be in all Super Sentai Series. In the Power Ranger series Red ,Blue and Yellow are the only colors to be constant in the shows.why is this not a a fact in the Colors section like it is on the Super Sentai Series —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.219.219.230 (talk) 23:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not necessary to mention here.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

if thats the case then why is it necessary on that page then?

Perhaps it isn't.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)