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Plural

Is the plural simply 'Pikachu', or 'Pikachus'? --Apostrophe 05:27, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't actually know but I say 3 Pikachu or lots of Pikachus. Definate number of Pika~ = Pikachu, indefinate number = Pikachus. --Celestianpower hab 09:22, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
American words derived from Japanese words have no plurals, so it’s like this: One Pikachu, Five Pikachu, many Pikachu. This is also true for all Pokémon. --Zap 19:24, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Exactly - I've heard it, when Team Rocket come across a group of them, and say something to the effect of, "Look at all the Pikachu!" And this carries over to every other Pokémon, too. I should really stop saying "Charmanders." --MasterXiam 22:28, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
I've just changed a couple of stray references to "Pikachus" to "Pikachu", to maintain the general consensus the plural of "Pokémon" is "Pokémon" (etc). Also I've moved the section on the angle of drawing of tails of Pikachu into the "Other Pikachu" section, as it isn't just applicable to Ash's Pikachu. --Kain 16:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
"Look at all the Pikachu!" I also remember that quote JayKeaton 19:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

The official plural of all Pokémon is the same as all their singular names. As Wikidsmaht said, One Snorlax, Two Snorlax, Red Snorlax, Blue Snorlax. Pikachu not Pikachus. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 20:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I said “Green Snorlax, Blue Snorlax”, because its normal coloration is green and cream, more or less( except in Hoenn). If you come across a Red one, call Professor Oak to study it. And then call the shop for a new game ’cuz yours is Phucked up with a capital P. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Categorizing

Uhm, what's the difference between the Category "Pokémon" and "Pokémon characters"? I was browsing here and there and thought I'd find "pikachuu" under "Pokémon characters", but he wasn't there... shouldn't her belong in there also?

Category Pokémon seems to be for articles describing the games, objects and general things such as Pokénav, Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, and Pokémon Center. The Pokémon Characters category, on the other hand, is grouping all the 493 Pokémon and the Pokémon Characters
--Fern 13:21, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Confusions

One thing many people are confused about is Pikachu's gender. Even though the concept of genders was introduced in Pokémon Gold and Silver, Pikachu is still called an it and the people of the Pokémon company wish it to remain an ambiguity, allong with Ash's parentage. --Fern 13:21, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Still, during the game's final duel against Pokémon Trainer Red (who is meant to represent Ash) in Mount Silver, his Pikachu is identified as male from the battle screen. While this is not a conclusive piece of evidence, it may give us a hint in that direction. Sinistro 11:09, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It is generally agreed in the fan community that due to the many differences, facts about Red in the game cannot be used as evidence for any theory regarding Ash in the anime. Murgatroyd 07:56, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Whipping out my DVDs, I've noticed there's something in one of the episodes of the animé that suggests Pikachu is a male. It's in the "Princess versus Princess" episode- the narrator claims that on the Princess Festival day, the women get shopping at a discount and the men...get to carry the packages! Pikachu is seen with Ash and Brock holding various things Misty has apparently bought. Pikachu also seems as bored of the festival as Ash and Brock. Only a throwaway moment, you may think, but in the following episode, Brock and Ash claim Kids Day should be a boys-only holiday and Pikachu poses with the two of them, before recieving a smack from Misty for doing so. I suppose you could easily claim that Pikachu is just attached to Ash and sides with him naturally, but following those two examples, I always think Pikachu is a male, in spite of him always being called an "it". --L T Dangerous 14:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Ash's Pikachu is probably male. The reason for this is because its first appearance was in the first episode of Pokémon, which in turn was in the first generation of Pokémon. At that time, there was no gender, and unless I am mistaken, in the games, Pokémon traded from generations earlier than the second generation always come out as male (of course, in the case of Nidoran, it could be different). So it should be safe to assume that Ash's Pikachu is male. -- A. Exeunt 02:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Either way it isn't important, because we are speculating, and if we added any of our theories, it would be original research. Highway Return to Oz... 11:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
The reason Pikachu is referred to as an "it" is because it's a species, not a single individual. There are both male and female Pikachu in existence. It's the same deal for Yoshi. But, yes, I think Ash's Pikachu is a male. --Luigifan 04:52, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
In response to A. Exeunt's comment: The Pikachu I traded from Pokémon Yellow to Pokémon Gold turned out to be female. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 23:49, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

In Pokemon Ruby version, a person in one of the Pokemon Centers says that there is no way to tell the difference between Pokemon genders.

In Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, there is sexual dimorphism amongst species, however, effectively reversing that. -Jeske (How's My Editing?) 23:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Would that make Ash's Pikachu male, since it doesn't have the dent in it's tail? Xyzyxx 04:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


I would like to add that in an early episode of pokemon, "pokemon fashion flash" misty imagined dressing up a pokemon, namely pikachu, and in her imagination pikachu was in a dress. also in the movie short "gotta dance" or any other feature with pokemon dancing, pikachu is dancing with meowth, (who is confirmed male) with pikachu taking the female role in the dance. these things most definitely suggest that pikachu is female. Also, to those who mention gender differences, i would like to add that genders and gender differances were not added until much after pikachu's original creation. --DeathXsolidor 23:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

But they clearly identify that the design of Ash's Pikachu is a male Pikachu. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
They do no such thing - Ash's Pikachu was designed roughly nine years before the gender difference among Pikachu came into effect. And in any case, the dented tails could be a Sinnoh-only trait for Pikachu. And, as previously stated, the games and anime are too far apart to say that what happens in one will happen in the other. MelicansMatkin 14:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
The current male design is based on the standard Pikachu design. If Pikachu were female, they would not use the primary design as the male design. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Ash's Pikachu has been around for nine years before the female design. Your argument has no merit. NO Pokemon before D/P were shown to have gender differences (Nidoran family aside), meaning that every Pokemon ever seen in the anime has been male - which is clearly not the case. MelicansMatkin 23:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

About Meowth dancing w/ Pikachu... he didn't CHOOSE to have pikachu as his dance partner. I think mudkip and treecko dance together, but both of them are males, right? ~Crowstar~ 17:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

That is a good point, but whether or not they are both male is still questionable. Its seems clear that treeko is male, seeing as how it fell for a meganium as a grovyle, and as for mudkip, I'm not exactly sure. Bulbapedia, a pokemon-themed extention of wikipedia, refered to brock's mudkip as a "she". While this may not be reliable, I have seen many other places where mudkip was refered to as female. But anyway, it seems continuing this arguement on pikachu leads nowhere, because in the beginning, pokemon didnt have genders, they could fall in love with no spefication of their gender (unless said outright), gender differences dont apply to the anime, and there has been no confirmation from the creator of pokemon nor the company itself on pikachu's gender. We may never find out, so it seems all there is left is speculation. --DeathXsolidor 00:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Locking this Page

Some people from GameFAQs LUE have decided to vandalise this Pikachu page. It should be locked from editing for a while.

I have protected the page due to current vandalism. The protection may be removed in a day/couple of hours or so. -- Chris 73 Talk 01:19, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
I'll give it a try and unprotect it again -- Chris 73 Talk 03:36, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

Someone vandalized this page again...I can't figure out how to undo it.--Metallurgist 01:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

A template was vandalized. It's already fixed. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

"technical"

The introduction of this article is gibberish if you don't know anything about the subject. It does not explain what Pikachu is. Pikachu (ピカチュウ Pikachū) is an electric mouse Pokémon.. Electric? Mouse? Pokémon? Pokémon tells me that it is a video game franchise - how can something be an "electric mouse video game franchise"? What does this mean? Reading the introduction makes me little wiser. I assume it is some sort of fictional character, but from what? A video game? A manga story? An animé story? I was doubting between {{notenglish}}, {{technical}} and {{fiction}}, and chose the latter two. I, myself, do not understand the introductione one bit. It's too technical. Gerrit MUTE 14:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I see your point -- it's a good one, and the notice you added is very appropriate. I have to remember that not everyone has two kids who went through a phase where Pokemon was just about the center of the universe. :-}
Has anybody fixed this to make it clearer? I'd be certain that somewhere on the Pokémon page, it would explain how it is in reference to the creatures, as Pokémon is short for "Pocket Monsters." MasterXiam 22:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
You realize this comment is seven months old, correct? The intro has been changed to answer this comment, although if you have a better idea for how it should be phrased, feel free to be bold and change it. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 22:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Why would anyone who knows nothing of Pok'emon type in Pikachu to Wikipedia? I think if anyone is doing this then they would have a grasp on the basics Ronan.evans 00:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Guess you've never used the random article feature. —WAvegetarian(talk) 14:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Copyright

Somebody must change the "Pokedex descriptions" section to "Biology." Each Pokedex entry is copyrighted. It should be reworded into paragraphed information.


LALO LOLO

Someone has written lala lolo at the bottom of the page, I can't see it in edit, though. Could someone get rid of it.--60.226.29.20 23:14, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Pikachu Not Evolving on the Series

I know that a brief mention is made on the Pikachu page about Pikachu, on his own, not wishing to evolve into a Riachu but I was wondering if an additional entry should be made about the series Producers probably having more to do with that decision than the actual character. Artemisboy 17:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

If Pikachu is so powerful, even if it does not want to, why dosn't it evolve?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.224.11.172 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC).
You know, your post defeats itself. If Pikachu is already so powerful, it theoretically shouldn't need to evolved. And this isn't a page to speculate or discuss "what if" situations. Go to a forum for that.—ウルタプ 00:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
While you are correct that this is not the place for it, that was unnecessarily rude. This person, potentially a productive editor, even one who could help the PCP, may never come back now. Plus, I think you missed the point. I think the anon was looking for a different kind of answer, which I have provided below in case s/he does return. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Not all Pokémon evolve just by getting stronger. Some of them require special conditions. No matter how strong a Pikachu gets, for example, it only evolves into Raichu when exposed to the radiation of a special kind of stone, known as a Thunder Stone. Additionally, the anime doesn’t always follow the rules. Even though Ash’s Bulbasaur was able to evolve, it resisted. If you would like more information about the methods by which Pokémon can evolve, I invite you to read the article on Pokémon evolution. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I wrote "Why dosn't it evolve?" and I know you need a stone, but in the anime where aspects of the games are usualy left out, I thought that pokémon only evolved by level (which isn't mentioned much in the anime) unless it branches out or something. I thought that anime stones just sped up the progress. I know how to evolve a pikachu, because I evolved my friends pikachu I caught just to show him the power of a stone. Thanks though!!! Oh, and I noticed that you called me "s/he", to sove that, I am a "he". WikiLiger(not logged in)--24.224.11.162 00:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I read somewhere that if Pikachu like the way they are and like they're personalitys, they refuse to evolve. Plus, a Raichu would be to big to sit on Ash's shoulder/head.

Arbok to Pikachu?

I don't seem to remember Arbok evolving into Pickacu, is that correct? It also says it on the Arbok page JayKeaton 05:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

No, Pikachu doesn't evolve from Arbok. However, that particular list is for is ordering Pokémon by the National Pokédex, where Arbok is number 24 and Pikachu is number 25. :) --Sparky Lurkdragon 05:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Pichu evolves into Pikachu.

pichu is johto. Pikachu is kanto. They made pichu later.

40 year old

Okay, it was me who added the sentence "even though in Pokémon COlosseum there appears a Pikachu who is at least 40 years old". Someone reverted it because it was unsourced. How dou you expect me to source that?

In the town where Rui's grandfather lives, Agate Village, there are some people who say that Eagun (the grandfather) was a very popular trainer 40 years ago. Later, just before the fight with a Team Snagem member, Eagun says that Pikachu was his very first Pokémon. You don't have to be Einstein to figure out that Pikachu must be at least 40 years old.

So my statement was not a simply pure speculative fan statement. -- Danilot 20:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

You were making an assumption based on fan-info, no primary source has stated the official age of Eagun's Pikachu. If you did use the method described to reach this, it is called "original research", which is useless because you can't cite it and we can't use. All information should be cited as coming from a source, something we can find the related info in. The best way to source all info is to remove fan related comments that can't possibly be sourced so we can cut down on unsourced material. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 21:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
It's a logical conjecture from an official game, and the statement makes no assumptions on the exact age, just that the Pikachu is at least 40 since A) NPCs state that Eagun was popular 40 years before the game and B) Eagun says the Pikachu was his first Pokémon. Unless the Pikachu hitched a ride with Celebi or something, it has to be at least forty years old.
Cite the game, I say. That's where the information comes from, not any fan-source. --Sparky Lurkdragon 22:39, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
"Logical conjecture" is a fancy way of saying "original research". ; P Highway Rainbow Sneakers 22:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
So... apparently there is a strong possibility that we have a time-travelling Pikachu on our hands. Good to know. --Sparky Lurkdragon 22:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
...More constructively, how about something like this: "It is unknown whether such longevity is unusual for a Pikachu; Pokémon Colosseum does include a Pikachu that seems to be at least 40, based on comments from NPCs, but it is not known if this is an ususal age, either." --Sparky Lurkdragon 23:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Which is original research. You can't put something like that in unless you can find a website that says "Eagun's Pikachu is around 40". Even if you're just assuming, and they're no source, it's still original research, which we can't add. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 06:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
In Bulbapedia's article on Eagun, the same information is given: "Eagun still keeps the first Pokémon he ever received with him, a Level 40 Pikachu.". It's not original research, it's pure logic, undeniable and self-evident; there exists no possibility other than that Pikachu being at least 40 years old. Or is someone going to argue that Eagun got his Pikachu 40 years ago but it's only 15 years old? If you already existed 40 years ago, you MUST be at least 40 years old. ... -- Danilot 11:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
You can't cite Bulbapedia, it's not a reliable source since any of us could edit it. It doesn't even matter about the age of the blinking Pikachu, since you could list of all the cameo Pokémon, and it is original research - something you have found out, working something, or theorizing on your own is original research! And Bulbapedia is conflicting with what you had said, proving that their isn't a reliable source on it. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 16:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't believe it's original research if anybody in the world could draw that conclusion from the evidence there is.

If the videogames say A) Eagun has been a trainer for 40 years or more - and B) Pikachu was Eagun's first Pokémon -, then anybody, anywhere, could see the logic in the reasoning. If everyone can see it that way, is it still original research?

Imagine this other case: a comet in the Oort cloud orbits the Sun, and it comes near the Earth once every 16 million years. 1962 was the last time it came near our planet. Would it be original research to add a line saying this comet has only been observed once by scientists? No, it's simple and pure logic, even if this fact is not made explicit in the NASA or ESA website. Logic, unless we're dealing with a fallacy, is true. And this is not a fallacy.

If A is B and B is C, then A is C. Change A for "Pikachu", B for "Eagun's first Pokémon", and C for "40 years old". You simply can't deny it's true.

Just like the Pikachu affair -- Danilot 21:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but this clearly qualifies as original research. From that page: "Articles may not contain any unpublished theories, data, statements, concepts, arguments, or ideas; or any new analysis or synthesis of published data, statements, concepts, arguments, or ideas that serves to advance a position." This is new synthesis of published data and hence HighwayCello is right: it is not allowed. Regards, --Celestianpower háblame 22:03, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Trust me, the sooner you learn this lesson the better - I put an article for FAC with original research in it ; P Highway Rainbow Sneakers 22:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know "new synthesis of published data" qualified as original research. Guess I'll have to put up with this rule, even if I don't agree with it. lol -- Danilot 14:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
The argument that this statement qualifies as "original research" is rather pedantic, in my opinion. I think "original research", at least as explained by Jimmy Wales, is an entire article consisting of the various things classified as such, not simply a single statement that could be worked out by basic logic. Of course, for many people basic logic is a major issue, but those people probably aren't around reading Wikipedia, much less writing articles or commenting on them. I, for one, think the particular statement should be in. If the article HighwayCello mentioned was denied Featured Article Candidacy because of a single statement, then the people judging for the candidacy were also being pedantic. Maybe they're supposed to be, or maybe they're just a**es...not for me to say which.SWalkerTTU 05:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

It's like discussing fan fiction in the Harry Potter article, not in canon. We can't be sure, so it's pointless to discuss. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 09:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Are all the people who delete this idiots or something???! Look. Eagun has been legendary for 40 years. He couldn't without a Pokemon. His first Pokemon was Pikachu. Therefore he must have had the Pikachu for AT LEAST 40 years since he became the trainer. And it is NOT a theory - it's the truth! IT PHYSICALLY HAS TO BE! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ダイノーズ (talk)
Extrapolation is original research. Unless it EXPLICITLY says the Pikachu is 40, it can't be added (as it is, it is only IMPLIED). -Jeske (v^_^v) 17:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Um. That’s not extrapolation. Some might consider it interpolation or inference, but, frankly, it’s more like logical analysis. This is NOT a case of “A and B are true, so I think C is true too.”, this is a case where A and B cannot be true unless C is also. I gotta agree with the n00b here. --WikidSmaht (talk) 21:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Not necessarily. It could be a different Pikachu (i.e. mating) from the original one. Colosseum has no evidence explicitly saying whether the Pikachu Eagun has is the same Chu that he started with or not. All it says is "Pikachu was his very first Pokemon". AFAIK (been a while since I played it), it doesn't say, "The Pikachu he has now was his very first Pokemon". -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... I took it for granted that Eagun was referring to the Pikachu that is pretty much always with him. I guess if you interpret it as “A Pikachu” was his first Pokémon( which is not what he said, but I suppose the terminology can be unclear), it is ambiguous anough to preclude use in the article. It’s times like this I wish more NPCs nicknamed their Pokémon. As a side note on nicknames, the Surfing ’chu in whose passage age is mentioned was named “Pooka”, NOT “Puka”. --WikidSmaht (talk) 02:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I played the game. He said that the Pikachu WAS the same as the one he caught.LuGiADude 11:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Can you provide the evidence? Unless and until you can, it cannot be placed in the article (since it violates WP:ATT). -Jeske (v^_^v) 14:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
We usually don’t require additional evidence of something we can cite the games on. I mean, the biology sections are usually cited directly to the games, because the info is from the in-game Pokédexes. Are you suggesting that we need to find or provide screenshots of all the Pokédex entries?
And, why do you keep putting comments all the way back to the left? The indentation is important to help follow the threading of the conversations. --WikidSmaht (talk) 15:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm just a bit paranoid. Don't mind myself or the arguments above the Japanese name's. Jeske (v^_^v) 19:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
At one point of the game (I'm not entirely sure but I think it's after Pikachu gets KOed by Snagem's Hitmontop), Eagun does refer to Pikachu as his companion since the beginning. -- Danilot 19:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, if you don’t know when it happens, how can you be sure when he said it? I would feel better if someone were actually looking at the conversation on the screen and able to quote it directly WHILE posting here on the talk page. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
"EAGUN: That isn't all, either. I have a comrade with whom I've been through thick and thin!
"EAGUN: This is the first POKéMON I got, and it's been with me ever since!
"EAGUN: Okay, PIKACHU! We haven't battled this much in a while! Let's keep focused!"
This is what he says before he battles the guy with the shadow Hitmontop. So the Pikachu at least was his first Pokémon.—M_C_Y_1008 (talk/contribs) 23:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good to me, and back in the article it goes. And, to avoid claims of “original research”, I just put facts A and B and let the readers see C for them selves. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Um... HUH? That answer didn’t make a lick of sense to me. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, you need to be ten to be a trainer, and Eagun's pikachu was his first, so maybe the pikachu is 30? oh, and the Eagun and pikachu thing sounds alot like Ash and his Pikachu.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.132.61 (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Piakchu

I don't get it. Why do you guys keep removing the mention about Piakchu in Arfenhouse just because the series is "non-notable"? I mean, it's a freaking cult parody series which "has developed a fanbase within the Newgrounds and deviantART communities.". How is that "non-notable"? Pikawil 00:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

DeviantART? :O Let's add it straight away. ¬_¬ Highway Rainbow Sneakers 07:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Original Research

"Its most common sentence is "Pika-pika". When it wants to talk to Ash it says "Pika-pi," which sounds similar to "Satoshi", and calls Misty "Pikachupi" similar to her Japanese name of "Kasumi". It refers to Togepi as "Pipipi", probably because in Japanese, "pii" means "little"."

That sounds like original research to me. Anyone care to comment? Vancar 16:18, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

It's likely the explanation for the common use of those sounds in reference to those characters, but yes, OR.  ::::piepants

I did it!

Biology! It took me 2 hours. If anyone has a problem with it, talk here before deleting it, please. Supermariorobot 23:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Well done! What you wrote was very impressive, but I had to remove a portion of it, since you make references to the anime and manga, while the characteristics section is just for the video games, since it is the only canon that actually exists. I kept your text and left to paragraphs, thank you much. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 00:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, okay... Just wondering, which parts are you talking about, exactly? By which I mean, what parts of it had to do with the anime/manga? And why can't they be used, anyway? I'm glad someone at least thought it was a good idea, at least. Ill post it here, so people can comment on it without checking the history, ok?

Here it is:

==Biology== A Pikachu (plural also Pikachu) is a ground-dwelling mammal belonging to a subspecies of [[rodent]]s including itself, it's evolutions, [[Plusle]], [[Minun]], and possibly undiscovered others, although pikachu are by far the most well known. Pikachu have short, yellow fur with brown stripes on its back, black-tipped ears, along with an unusually shaped tail, resembling a lightning bolt. They are often found in forests, plains, and occasionally near electrical sources, on most continents throughout the world. It is also a popular pet, and relatively easy to maintain, with little exercise necessary for it's well being, although periodic electric discharge is extremely important. Pikachu are known to have acute senses of hearing, thanks to its large ears. Most domestic pikachu are very intelligent, understanding and interpreting human [[speech]] at levels far surpassing those of any pet [[dog]]. Mice can be harmful [[pests]], eating and sometimes destroying telephone poles, and other electronic equipment. In communities found near wooded areas, it is not uncommon for a pikachu to sometimes show up under or near houses, presumably attracted by the electrical output generated by the dwellers' appliances. ===Diet=== Living in wooded areas, pikachu often are found foraging for berries. Instead of climbing trees, they use small electrical shocks to release the berries from the tree, roasting them at the same time. As pets, they can be fed a variety of processed food, available at many pet stores. Alternatively, pikachu are tolerant to most "human" food, and sometimes enjoy it more then the more nutritional food designed for their biology. ===Electrical Abilities=== Exclusive to the Pikachu's subspecies is the obvious ability to release electric discharges of varying intensity, at will, through glandular pouches residing in its cheeks. These glands allow it to store and release a unique form of chemical energy, which can be released in bolts of lightning or [[ball lightning]] to defend itself from attackers, to cook food, to be used in battle, at the command from it's trainer, or in self-defense in the wild. Pikachu are rarely known to purposefully attack others besides the aforementioned, but particularly aggressive pikachu have been recorded. Pikachu often travel in packs, and are rarely territorial. However, when threatened, a group can generate an intense electrical offensive, and the electro-magnetic forces exerted by the resulting field can even produce a short lived, localized thunderstorm. As pikachu build up energy in their electricity glands, it is often needed to discharge, as to not result in a short, or worse, which can lead to physical [[Paralysis ]], or in severe cases, death. Pikachu release the built-up energy through their tail, which acts as a grounding rod, to safely remove unneeded energy. A sure sign to tell if a location is inhabited by pikachu (or a member of its subspecies) is to look for patches of burnt grass, which is the result of the discharge. Through an inability to release a buildup of electricity, a pikachu may develop a rare condition, very similar to the human [[flu]]. This illness is most often caused by strong nearby electro-magnetic forces, which severely impact the electric glands. If a pikachu is introduced to a magnet, it will be attracted towards its cheeks, and display other common attributes of [[magnetism]].


Supermariorobot 00:32, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

You know what else? I made some of that stuff up, too. Death from inability to discharge? Rarely teratorial? Hell, I don't know if a tree being hit with an electric shock will release fruit. A lot of it was assumption. But, if it works, go with it, right? Why not? It was well written, and it fit, right? And another thing... The Anime and Manga? those arent sources? I cant take info from there? Why not? Nintendo made 'em. Nintendo sold 'em. Its got their seal on the damn cover! Who says the Anime isnt the only canon, and the games and manga can't be sources, or the Manga the only source?

If I came off a little rude, I apologize. But, like I said, 2 hours. Im proud of it. How about a reconsideration?

Supermariorobot 03:09, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

A lot of it was original research, and the anime and manga aren't canon, it's on the games. Nintendo owns them yes, but they are interpretations and mutalations of Pikachu in the games. In the games it says they eat berries, but we've seen in the anime that they like ketchup. It's interpretation, which makes it not true canon. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 10:21, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Is that for Pikachu in general, or just Ash's specimen? Regardless, adding a biology section seems like an interesting prospect... but I don't even want to think about doing it for the other 385 Pokémon... --Luigifan 04:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
They all get one, and already have one. Check this place out. -- THL 05:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

is the burt grass realy true? and you should add that in the anime, pikachu are rare. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.132.61 (talk) 01:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

All tasks complete

Yay, all the pending tasks have finally been complete, if theres anything wrong with the article, please add more tasks, cheers —M inun (Spiderman) 15:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

"If there's anything wrong...?" Well, speaking as someone who has never watched a Pokemon cartoon, never read a Pokemon manga, never paid any attention to anything Pokemon beyond the normal occasional intrusions received secondhand through friends who have children, and came to this Wiki page out of curiosity to learn more, I have this to say about this article:
"Huh?"
In other words, if someone unfamiliar with Pokemon reads this article, the reader has to dig pretty deep down to get any idea what it's all about. The "Cultural Impact" section isn't illuminating without some context; therefore it would be helpful if the "Cultural Impact" section were moved to the bottom, leaving the explanatory text (biology, story backgrounds) near the top. Amatulic 20:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
This isn't up to the high standards of the wikipedia community, despite what some people may think. Please Charizard, Torchic or Bulbasaur for a more simplistic and descriptive article. Highway Return to Oz... 21:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

New Pikachu Balloon

I personally spoke with Robin Miller in Philadelphia (where Macy*s was opening up their Philadelphia flagship store in Center City at the old John Wanamaker flagship location), the Thanksgiving Parade's executive director, and he personally told me there will be a brand new Pikachu Balloon in this year's parade. I have added that information to the article under the pop culture section of the story. NoseNuggets 7:41 AM US EDT Aug 4 2006

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"Giant Member"

I saw this under the Characteristics heading: "To the point where it can suffer lightning strikes to it's giant member without difficulty. I wondered if it was deliberate sabotage or not, but either way I think it sounds less vulgar now. Blitzace123 23:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Aah... *runs to the bathroom and pukes* Glad to see that it's gone. That could have grossed out a lot of people. --Luigifan 04:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Internet Fad Pikachu

What's the deal with this new "Internet Fad Pikachu" picture that just up and appeared? I want to know if it's appropriate for the article. -Jeske (Complaints Hotline) 02:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I killed it, it didn't need to be in the article. If anyone disagrees, say why here. The Hybrid Lives 03:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

FA #4?

What still needs to be done to pikachu to make it ready to be a featured article? The Hybrid Lives 04:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Minun's edits need undone still, he cited Amazon pages for just about everything, I think I got rid of it them though. The thing needs a scrub up, general citing, which shouldn't be that hard. Creation and background need re-written, I think there is something in the Wall Street journal about them, they'll be a lot more pressure for outside sources. You're welcome to help! :) Highway Grammar Enforcer! 12:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I will, I just needed to know what to do. I'll start with rewriting Creation and backround. THL 14:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Pika Pika Pika

An anon just said that Pika Pika Pika was the name of a song by Bananarama and performed in Europe. I doubt this, but I am not European so I don't know if it is true. Is it? THL 12:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I searched through their official site and could not find any song by this name anywhere. So my guess is that it is false information. If there is a song by this name, perhaps they do not perform it, but they definately did not write it. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 21:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Sweet, thanks. I didn't think it was true, but for the moment I had to AGF. Cheers. THL 01:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

It appears AMIB was way ahead of me, thats what I get for sleeping all day I guess. THL 01:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

pikachu's gender, the saga continues

i know one thing, pikachu is a female becuse it's voice actor, ikue ootani did the voice of hana-chan from ojamajo doremi dookan and theres a song callded demone de hana-chan to prove it.

Sir aaron sama girl 02:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Ash is voiced by Veronica Taylor also a female, voice actors prove nothing. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 02:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
The same could be said for Bart Simpson (in that he's voiced by a woman). -Jeske (How's My Editing?) 04:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

In one of the Japanese-only features, Pikachu is transformed into a semi-human form, but still has its ears, tail, and some of its fur. In this form, Pikachu is distinctly female, looking about Ash's age. Also, this may need research, but I believe trading your first Pikachu from Pokemon Yellow to a later game will result in the traded Pikachu's gender being female. 70.161.7.138 23:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Yellow doesn't count, as it's not technically Ash's Pikachu. Anyway, I think the gender's randomally selected for all Pokémon traded from Red, Blue, and Yellow to Gold, Silver, and Crystal (just like Pokémon in the wild). How could there be a pre-determined gender? A Japanese feature of what only does Pikachu turn human? Kochdude388 23:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I think “feature” was meant as in “Feature Film”, the anon most likely meant OVA, though surely not an official one. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

True, voice actors don't prove anything. The reason why all these characters (like Ash, Bart Simpson) are done by female voice artists is because since they are young characters, their voice is higher still. The guys would already be well past puberty and wouldn't be able to make their character sound young with a deep voice. Ksy92003 19:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

We will know soon, as in the games, some pokemon look different based on gender, if we see that during D/P series, then we will know for a fact that it is a male, as female in D/P has a weird shaped tail =P Also, Hikari's Buneary is female and has a crush on Pikachu xD and considering it's a kids program, 99% chance Pikachu is male >.< 70.231.249.170 05:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
1) the games and anime are quite different, not to mention that genders and their differences were introduced after ash's pikachu was created. 2) do you have proof that hikari's buneary is female? and 3) in the movie short "gotta dance" pikachu is seen dancing with meowth, a male, with meowth taking the "male" role and pikachu taking the "female" role. and based on what you stated that it is a kid's program, wouldn't it be appropriate for pikachu to be a female? --DeathXsolidor 23:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Not sure if anyone told you, but games and anime are separate. Any developments in the games cannot be applied to the anime. -Jeske (v^_^v) 05:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Anime-wise, if I recall, on the girl's day episode, it was stated that on girl's day, girls get to go out shopping, and the guys have to go with them and carry their shopping bags. If memory serves, Pikachu ends up carrying a bag, which would imply Pikachu is a male. Sparky-sama 09:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Buneary is a girl. in the episode "steamboat willies" (in D/P) buneary, happiny, and aipom were in little dresses. watch it. its true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.132.61 (talk) 01:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

some questions as i edit this article

i'm not sure what the policy is on certain things... specifically, if we should talk about Pikachu as the many Pikachus of the Pokemon world, or The species of the Pikachu. also, the gender is never made explicit about Ash's pika, so i'm going to refer to it as an it.

and i raised this point in the pcp talk page before, and i'm going to raise it here: certain things are never mentioned and never refered to in the Pokemon franchise, therefore, we should not mention them in trying to define Pokemon. Talks of predator/prey, anatomical features in Pokemon where they're not important, or any other science term is relevant or appropriate, and has no place in a WP aricle about them (although I guess there is in fan fiction or something) Therefore, in this article, when I see something like this, i will remove itBlueaster 08:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, be bold, but don't be reckless. Cheers, -- THL 09:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

This part was interesting, but out of place in the pop culture section and unreferenced.

"The phrase "Pika-pika" is often considered funny: the Japanese expression "pika-pika hikaru" means stroke of lightning; it is also used to denote a small bald spot on the very top of the head still surrounded by hair. "Pika-pika" can also mean "shining" or "shimmering" and denotes the electric element of Pikachu." Blueaster 18:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that we get this article protected

alot of the edits are vandalisms and reverts Blueaster 17:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

But most of the vandalism comes from anon IP's. Semi-pro would be a better option, but neither semi or full are likely. -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 17:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

but wouldnt getting it protected block all the anonymous IPs? Blueaster 01:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

No, full protection blocks most EVERYONE. Semi-pro blocks anonymous IPs and accounts younger than four days. -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 01:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that even bureaucrats can edit protected pages. So, that means around 7 people total can edit protected pages. Cheers, -- THL 04:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

ok, but u know that what i was thinking about was getting this page Semiprotected

In any case, it's incredibly unlikely to happen. The vandalism isn't so pervasive of a problem that semi-protection is necessary (contrast with Bulbasaur after it got its FA status). -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 18:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
THL, admins and higher (including bureaucrats, stewards, etc.) can edit protected pages. Greeves (talk contribs) 16:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I figured that out later on, and I had to change my sig. Peace, -- The Hybrid 01:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Lagomorph?

Is Pikachu actually a lagomorph? I ask this because just because it has the name of a lagomorph in it (Pika), concensus has been both here and pika that Pikachu is not based off of the pika. (See Pika's talk page) -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 03:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

No Pikachu is not a lagomorph. That's been detailed both on this page, and on the pika page, though the references to both have since been deleted. Pikachu is a mouse (Mus), not a pika (Ochotona). -Kain 10:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Danke. -Jeske (v^_^v) 19:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Source? --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
If you're referring to the Latin, I'm sure he's only using them as comparisons. i don't think he's trying to upstage Oddium wanderus. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I meant the assertion that both articles dealt with the issue at some point. And why are you replying to this comment? :-p I am still waiting for you to clarify yours above. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Pardon me, but Pikachu, though it contains the word 'Pika,' is not based on the Pika at all. Mack-the-random (Got a bone to pick?) 22:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

This has been stated at Talk:Pika as well, and I will note that Pikachu is a direct transliteration from the Japanese. -Jéské (Blah v^_^v) 23:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Splitting article to deal with Ash's Pikachu?

Might it be an idea to split the article into Pikachu, ie. this article that deals with Pikachu[s] in general, and a separate article, eg. Pikachu_(anime) to deal with Ash's Pikachu separately? Ash's Pikachu is a MAJOR character, and Meowth has his own section as part of the Team Rocket (Jessie/James/Meowth) page, rather than lumping all the developments of Ash's Pikachu as a character in the main page that deals with Pikachu as a species. -Kain 10:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Wasn’t there somethinglike that before? --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Funny, I was just thinking of suggesting this. Anyway, Pikachu in the anime and manga are very unique, to the point where i think that they should be separated to a their own article. However, I don't want that to create a precedent to create articles for say Misty's Togepi or something like that. - A Link to the Past (talk) 14:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Image

I've seen people reverting my image chnage. Let me just say my image looks better, in fact, it almost looks scalable. But if anyone disagrees, how about, instead of violating the 3RR, we discuss it here? --98E 14:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Usually when placing a new picture on a higher traffic article, one will bring it up on the talk page before adding it. The picture doesn't go with the rest of the current Sugimori art, and looks weird, so I see no benefit in keeping it. Nemu 14:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
But it looks way nicer. You know, scalable images should be used over others, and the one I'm putting is almost scalable, while the other one isn't as much. --98E 14:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to have to agree with TTN. If we use that picture, then we would have to change all of the other Pokémon articles to match that style. Do we even have one of every Pokémon in that style? We need to be consistent with the images. --LuigiManiac 14:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Suggestion: How about we use both? That seems better. --98E 21:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
How about no? Per the fair use policy, images must significantly contribute to the article; yours doesn't. Nemu 21:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Unless it has a fair use rationale, which it does. --98E 21:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
No, that applies to all FU images. The rational is what lets them be used in the first place. Nemu 21:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, unless we work this out, the article will be protected for as long as we live. And I'm not gonna agree to simply not using my image because I like it way better and it looks way better. --98E 21:18, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, it's everybody here against you. The fact you want to use a picture you uploaded means nothing. Nemu 21:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm not going to give in that easily. --98E 21:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia works by building concensus, and concensus is that the article that *was* originally there works better. Besides, if the "I like it" argument were valid, Bulbasaur would still have a picture of a penis from when vandals placed it on while it was an FA. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Idea: Maybe I should convert mine into SVG to make it the best image to use? --98E 21:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Just stop. The image will not be used. Nemu 21:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Image type is irrelevant. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I suggest you read WP:USOP. If I make it into an SVG, you can't say I can't use it. --98E 21:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
98E, maybe you should just accept that if every other editor believes it should not be in the article, then it will not be in it. Wikipedia is a fantastic place, but you must understand that when you are outvoted, that is the end of it. MelicansMatkin 21:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
WP:USOP states that it's a rule that SVG's must be used over PNG's and other formats no matter what. --98E 21:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Care to highlight the exact sentence that says that? MelicansMatkin 21:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
(Conflict) You don't understand. Everyone is saying NO to your image. SVG, PNG, JPEG, it doesn't matter - there's no concensus to add your piccy. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Here, screenshot with highlighted sentence. --98E 21:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
You said: WP:USOP states that it's a rule that SVG's must be used over PNG's and other formats no matter what. The screenshot says: SVG is the preferred format. See the difference? MelicansMatkin 21:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
And what CONCENSUS do you have? Concensus trumps your screen shot, and it's saying, "Hell, no, it won't go!" -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
98E, I invite you to read WP:CON. MelicansMatkin 21:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
But it means pretty much the same thing, and, if it is preferred, it is a hell of a bad thing to use PNG instead of SVG. --98E 21:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
And? It still isn't policy, nullifying your argument. Nemu 21:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
98E, you're reading too much into it. There is a huge difference. Saying that SVG is preferred over PNG is like saying that I prefer Chocolate ice cream over Mint Chip. I'll take the chocolate if I can, but if not then I'm more than happy with the alternative. Saying it's a rule is just twisting the statement - by no means does it HAVE to be used. MelicansMatkin 21:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Fine, I guess, by that logic, I should replace all uses of any SVG's and replace them with JPG's where ever they're used if you really believe that. --98E 21:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
98E, have you even listened to what MelicansMatkin and I have been saying to you? Regardless of whether the rule is mandated or optional, there is absolutely no concensus to add the picture you uploaded! -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Whereas by your logic, 98E, we'd have to change every single Pokemon image. You know what, you can do whatever you want with every image on Wikipedia. Odds are you'll just be blocked. MelicansMatkin 21:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I did read WP:CON. I just think that if other pages use SVG's and it stays that way forever, why can't this one? --98E 22:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Because of every single reason listed above - want me to go over them again? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MelicansMatkin (talkcontribs) 22:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC).
If you have read WP:CON, then WHY are you still fighting concensus, which is currently against your pic?-Jeske (v^_^v) 22:04, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't think you get it. What I'm saying is, because SVG's are favored due to their scalabality, all articles MUST use them if an SVG image for the article is available. Anyway, I'm requesting the current image be re-created as an SVG. --98E 22:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
No, it is preferred for the images to be in the SVG format. Who, besides you, cares? Nemu 22:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
"Preferred" and "Mandatory" are two separate words. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
See here. It says at the end to accept that SVG is the correct Wikipedia format. --98E 22:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Where, exactly? At the end it says to accept that a certain pic might not be used on Wikipedia. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Look, it clearly says "So stop this lame edit war. "Accept that SVG is the way Wikipedia is heading." --98E 22:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Key word: "HEADING." WP:USOP says it is preferred, not mandated, so there is NO NEED to convert. Besides, a user's talk page is not policy, regardless of whether it was a former ArbCom member or Jim himself posting it. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
It's not the talk page of a user, it's the talk page of an article. And if an admin posts it we need to do what he/she says. --98E 22:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Admins are just users with special buttons. They have no more power in an argument than we do. Just stop this already. The picture will not go up. Nemu 22:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Insult them again and I'll report you for personal attacks! --98E 22:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
You're just raving now MelicansMatkin 22:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm only telling him to not make personal attacks! --98E 22:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
That's not an attack. I believe it's even a direct quote from something like WP:ADMIN. Nemu 22:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree. This has degenerated into rants on his part and attempted peacekeeping on ours. He simply spake the truth; he made no personal attacks.-Jeske (v^_^v) 22:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I've asked Yamla, an experienced administrator, for their advice on this matter. You can see my request here. MelicansMatkin 22:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay, it wasn't a personal attack. But back to before. I noticed you said "Whereas by your logic, we'd have to change every Pokemon image." That's no problem, I could easily create SVG's of all 493 Pokemon. --98E 00:25, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. Anyway. Let's get back to the point. Why is an anime screenshot better than a piece of Sugimori's official art, exactly?—Loveはドコ? (talkcontribs) 00:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
The image currently in place is not an anime screenshot, it is Sugimori artwork. When Fire Red and Leaf Green were released as part of the third generation, Ken Sugimori redrew every one of the first 150 Pokemon. If you would like to compare between the first (Red/Blue/Yellow) and third (Ruby/Sapphire/FR/LG/Emerald), the website Pokebeach has the original Sugimori artwork from both. The image currently on the page is third-gen Sugimori artwork. MelicansMatkin 01:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I know. 98E wants to use an anime screenshot/artwork/whatever still the anime not Sugimori.—Loveはドコ? (talkcontribs) 01:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, my image wasn't cropped from a screenshot, I don't think. It's probably drawn by someone as a derivated work from another website, because I didn't make it myself. I just looked at the history for Pikachu.png and saw that one there. --98E 14:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, in any case, it's obviously a piece for the anime. We've made a point of only using Sugimori's official artwork.—Loveはドコ? (talkcontribs) 14:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

(un-indent) well, why don't we just make the current Pikachu.png into an SVG? Then there's no reason to quarrel over this. 98E, u are wikilawyering around to get your way. We've told you the reason for why the current image is being used, and if your only argument is to make the one you want an SVG, we can easily compromise by changing the current pic's format. I, personally, don't even know what image it is you are talking about. It couldn't be the one that looks like Image:PikachuMouse.PNG which you're saying is so much better. The consensus is that we use sugimori artwork in all cases possible as it creates a uniform aesthetic appeal and is known to be an accurate representation of the character. If you would like to change all 500+ pictures (sugimori is used for human characters as well) please feel free to bring up your project idea to WP:POKE but i have a strong suspicion that you won't receive consensus there either. -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 19:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I certainly see no problems with that solution. The image you listed should also be removed from the manga section, as it offers nothingin relation to the manga - perhaps a screenshot from one of the Manga series would be more adequate. In any case, I feel that it is about time that this page was unprotected. MelicansMatkin 19:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

change the image, please :D

Pikachu doesn't have that face. For people unacquainted with Pikachu they may actually think that's Pikachu. Kakuuunowazawai 10:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Care to elaborate? I don't understand what you're asking, given the pic currently up has been there since WAAAAAY before the prot. -Jeske (v^_^v) 05:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Someone uploaded a vandalism picture over the Sugimori(?) artwork, and was reverted by the time you saw this message. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.58.119.52 (talk) 07:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC).

requesting to remove unneeded redundant image

I would like to remove the image Image:PikachuMouse.PNG from the Manga section. It is redundant to the main image, offering no extra context, and completely irrelevant to the section it was placed in. As such it is a decorative fair use image. -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 18:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Agreed && Done. --Deskana (AFK 47) 21:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


Vandalism Warning Templates

I've noticed quite a lot of vandalism occuring on this article recently, and on many other Pokemon articles (especially Koffing). I've seen most of these vandalism edits reverted (which is good), but I've also seen the vandals talk pages remain untouched by vandalism warnings, unless they've been placed by a bot (which is bad). I'm new to editing this article, but I've made quite a few edits elsewhere on Wikipedia, and I thought that I should point out what I'm going to say to everyone, in case tyou are not familiar with this.

After you have reverted a vandals edit, you can easily warn them not to do it again by posting Vandalism Warning Tempplates on their userpages. Yes, vandals will probably ignore these warnings, but they should be posted in any case - it helps admins, and after so many warnings, the User account or IP can be blocked. For those interested, the templates are at WP:WARN. Again, it makes life a lot easier on everyone if these templates can be used. Start at level one, then work your way up. If a vandal is already at, say level three, then post a level four warning. Reference the article too, just for clarity. MelicansMatkin 03:52, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Already do. Most people, however, can't because everywhere they turn, there's another vandal/spammer/Jobber/hacker ruining an article. They don't have time to place warnings without getting behind, especially since Pokémon articles are amongst the most frequently hit. Further, we just got off of a bunch of D/P-Serebii crap, so give us some slack! -Jeske (v^_^v) 04:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
My point is that it only takes a minute to post a warning template. When vandalism has not occurred for several hours, then there is no reason why a template cannot be added to a User's Talk Page. Even if there is no vandalism to revert, its not a bad idea to do a quick check of the article's history to check out any suspicious edits. MelicansMatkin 04:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Mel, common sense says investigate both the user history and the article history. -Jeske (v^_^v) 12:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
This is only partially related but we will have less vandals for 2 weeks because this article was semi protected. :) While we wait for the vandals to be able to return practice better vandal fighting (as in using the templates). Twinkle will help with this. Funpika 18:51, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Japanese Pikachu name

Pikachu's Katakana name is wrong. It's ピカチュウ (pi-ka-chu-u), not a bunch of unrelated kanji. Fix it ASAP 200.104.178.138 01:02, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Image

Does anyone else think that a picture comparing male and female Pikachu would be useful for commentary? I would find one but the internet is wonky here. Voretus 21:28, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey!

Has anybody seen the main picture recently?

Already dealt with while you were posting, sir. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

GA removal

This article has four missing citations, a large amount of guide content in the video game section, and no sources for what its name means. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Light Ball

As well as increasing the Special Attack, doesn't it also mean that if one breeds a Pikachu or Raichu with Light Ball the offspring Pichu will know Volt Tackle? Or is that another item? --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 09:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You are correct, the Light Ball will produce a Pichu with Volt Tackle if Pikachu or Raichu is bred. It also doubles Pikachu's Spec. Att. (and only Pikachus) - this means that a Pikachu holding a Light Ball has a greater Spec. Att. than Raichu! MelicansMatkin 14:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Removed from GA

Here are the reasons:

  • Game guide content along with OR.
  • In-universe characteristics section(This is not acceptable at all, per GA criteria)

Vikrant Phadkay 16:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

In-universe tag on Biological characteristics section

I've put an in-universe tag on the biological characteristics section because I feel the "biological characteristics" section is very in-universe. It's a fictional creature, so its biological characteristics are fictional, and should be treated as such. You can read WP:WAF for more ideas on how to make it read more out of universe. -Malkinann 09:01, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Not sure why this was re-nominated

It was at GA/R, (though someone apparently forgot to archive it) and in a 3 to 1 decision, this article as been relisted as a GA, primarily because although there were some issues with in-universe style, most people agreed that the issues wern't severe enough to deny this article GA status. Review archived at: Wikipedia:Good article review/Archive 28 Homestarmy 14:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixes

I've fixed some errors in grammar and spelling, as well as added some extra information that was missing. Admeister200x 9th of October 2007 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 14:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Good job everyone!!!

I'm just here to say that I'm glad to see that someone here has been keeping the article streamlined and cruft-free. Yay! Blueaster 20:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)