Talk:Pietro Mascagni

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[edit] Wikipedians in California

Has anyone ever listened to the program Friday Night at the Opera (aired in Sacramento from the KXPR studio, hosted by Sean Bianco)? The Intermezzo from his Cavaleria Rusticana is the theme song. —CliffHarris (-T|C-) 03:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mascagni and Fascism

I removed text about Mascagni and Fascism. While Mascagni did adhere to the Fascist party (as did Puccini, Giordano, and countless others), recent studies have nuanced his involvement. Read Alan Mallach's biography for a nuanced treatment of the subject. There are absolutely unsubstanciated myths out there, including that of Nerone being in support of Mussolini (Nerone was a 40-year old project, and paints nerone as a weak character). Talking about Mascagni and Fascism may be necessary, but must be done in a responsible way and based on facts, not myths. Ebruchez 08:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

A nuanced view of whether Nerone supported Mussolini or not is fine. Mascagni was a supporter of fascism, which I believe is relevant to his biography, and I am more concerned with that being there than an analysis of Nerone.
When something is challenged, Wikipedia encourages citation, so I shall cite:
"That Mascagni allied himself with fascism, like Giordano and Puccini to a lesser degree, is interesting but not unexpected"
-- Opera and the Culture of Fascism by Jeremy Tambling
I have a number of other sources with regards to this. But you admit he adhered to the Fascist party anyhow. I am adding this to his biography. Ruy Lopez 02:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Ruy, the problem I have is not with accepting that Mascagni adhered to the Fascist party. My problem is that this biography has currently two lines, and that mentioning this at this point makes it sound like his participation to the Fascist party was the second important thing in this life after the writing of Cavalleria Rusticana, which is absolutely preposterous. And that quote you cite above has a fair amount of bias: "to a lesser degree" yes, but because Puccini died in 1924 so he could obviously not continue his involvement! And it is not "interesting", because pretty much any high-profile Italian artist of the time who wanted to have a career had to join the party. It seems to me that you have a particular will to depict Mascagni in a negative way by emphasizing this point alone. Ebruchez 08:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, so I solved the problem by adding the longer biography that I wrote a long time ago for Mascagni.org, mainly based on "Pietro Mascagni - L'avventuroso dell'opera". It does mention that Mascagni adhered to the Fascist party in 1932. Ebruchez 08:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline biography

Surely this isn't standard? It should be changed to straight text like the rest of the Wikipedia biographies -- I've tagged it as such for now. --Gafaddict 01:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Premiere of Isabeau

It seems that the theater where premiere of Isabeau took place is sometimes mentioned as the "Colon", sometimes as the "Coliseo". I asked renowned Mascagni expert Roger Flury about this, and here is what he said (reproduced with this authorization):

I checked in Alan Mallach's Mascagni biography and Grove Opera; both give the Coliseo (as do I). I checked also a book on the T. Solis, Montevideo, where Isabeau was presented afterwards, and it mentions the premiere of Isabeau at the Coliseo. A couple of sources give the T. Colon (Piper's Encyclopaedia and the Mellon Opera Reference series), but I suspect they copied each other! The T. Colon website does not list Mascagni among the famous composers who conducted their own works in that theatre - and I'm sure they would have if PM had conducted the premiere of Isabeau in that house! The Sonzogno chronology firmly places the premiere at the Coliseo (and they ought to know!). So, I think the Coliseo is correct - until someone can produce a programme proving otherwise!

So for now I am reverting to Colon.

Ebruchez (talk) 02:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC)