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Contents 1 Pronunciation? 2 Vandal alert 3 Why dropped 4 City Status 5 Questions 6 Diversity 7 Map 8 "People" allegedly using free NHS services in Newry

[edit] Pronunciation?

What is the correct pronunciation of Newry? If it's relevant, I might possibly add a note to the Newry, PA page -- nobody there knows the correct - or at least ORIGINAL pronunciation either. - Wishkres 15:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

As a citizen of Newry, I pronounce the name Newry like "Nur-Ree". This is due in part from Iúr in Iúr Cinn Trá, which is the correct historical and offical name for Newry in Gaeilge.

--RÓ2000 20:30, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal alert

Any edit applied to this page by 217.33.82.4 (see this Talk page) should be treated with suspicion. They come from St Colman's College in Newry which has a track record for vandalism here and on other pages. -- RHaworth 10:56, 2005 Jan 21 (UTC)

[edit] Why dropped

The following looks like a sensible comment:

When speaking in Irish the full name of the town is rarely used; instead it is abbreviated to An tIúr which when spoken sounds like "Nur", leading to the modern English name.

But I will leave it to a Gaelic speaker to re-instate it. -- RHaworth 10:56, 2005 Jan 21 (UTC)

It was incorrect in pronunciation, and the statement applies to written as well as spoken Irish - the distinction is between modern and older Irish, not verbal and written Irish. The parallel between the English name and the Irish one isn't exceptionally distinct (looking at the actual pronunciation) so I don't think it warrants particular mention. I replaced it with the following:

In modern Irish the full name of the town is rarely used; instead it is abbreviated to An tIúr (pron. "on ture").

zoney ♣ talk 13:34, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] City Status

While I understand that Newry has official city status from the Queen, does anyone agree that it would be reasonable for us to add that most people regard it as a town? (The same goes to Lisburn and Armagh) Jonto 21:26, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

On a different point, Newry is a city in the sense of honourific status - however it is not a distinct administrative unit. Djegan 21:29, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Newry is regarded as a town by most inhabitants

[edit] Questions

Is anyone else having trouble with the photograph on the far left side of the screen?

Namely, unable to see the top half of the toolbar because the picture is obstructing that part of the screen.

Is there any way to fix it so that the first photo takes up less space?

Ruthfulbarbarity 20:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

why is the 6 county map used to indicate Newry's location? This gives the impression that we live on the south coast of an island?????

Emm possibly that is because it is the country boundry map that Newry is part of -- look it up in an atlas sometime —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dionysus99 (talk • contribs) 19:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diversity

Quote: 89.6% were from a Catholic background and 9.4% were from a Protestant background

That is 100%? Somehow I don't think that's right! Surely 100% of the population of Newry does not show loyalty to ONLY those two; what about those that say 'none'? This is definitely a dodgy fact.

88.110.72.249 23:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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That's because the remaining percentage is so small it's not worth talking about, also 9.4% from a Protestant background is a ridiculously high figure. Its closer to 4%.

macphisto 01:09, 06 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, I guess it is possible to say that those from a Roman Catholic and Protestant background maybe historical backgrounds and some within them groups may not actually practice their religions. --  RÓNÁN   "Caint / Talk"  22:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Why are only 6 counties shown on the map? We do not live on a 6 county island surrounded by water! Newry should be shown within its proper context i.e. the island of Ireland. more importantly how come there's nothing about all the pykies? surely they make up a substantial proportion of the population?

• The majority of travellers in Newry are Roman Catholics

--Macphisto 00:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

The travelling community are an ethnic group within Newry and thus may be mentioned, however not if it is within a mocking term as i am sensing from the user who brought this up. It could also be argued to include a section on the "New-Irish" that have come into our city from the Polish and Eastern European communities and the contributions that they are making, both in Economic terms and socially. --  RÓNÁN   "Caint / Talk"  20:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "People" allegedly using free NHS services in Newry

The Irish Times article dated 4th April 2007 referenced at the bottom of the page could not be traced when I tried to find it in the archives. This coupled with the fact that there is no link to the said article anyway, makes me consider this supposed fact as suspicious. It needs to be rectified. The whole sentence needs to be changed as its tone sounds like someone has an axe to grind and needlessly puts 'people' in quotation marks. Where is the validity of this allegation? How can non-citizens avail of free healthcare if they are not even resident in the Province?