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[edit] Neopets and Scientology

Is there a link between neopets and the cult of $cientology? Chump Manbear (talk) 12:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Kinda. Doug Dohring, who is a $cientologist, owned the site for a while before selling it off to Viacom. 122.107.192.67 (talk) 04:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
What kind of a question is this? Thesis, warrants, and evidence for such a theory, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle192837 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
A good question my furry friend.Chump Manbear (talk) 19:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I thought there was something about $cientology in this article a few months ago. Now it seems that's been deleted. Odd. - Jack's Revenge (talk) 11:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh well, the connection still can be found at Neopets, Inc.. - Jack's Revenge (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 11:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


I doubt this applies anymore. The $cientology thing should be deleted. Mumblebot (talk) 12:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that was my mistake when reverting. I reverted to one revision before the one intended. --Squids'and'Chips 19:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) Mumblebot (talk) 01:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hackings

Is there a plan to include the hackings of the site? 76.170.11.100 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Unless there is reliable sourcing to show their existance, no. Collectonian (talk) 23:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Possibility of COI

I thought I would bring this up. 74.211.150.58 (talk · contribs) originates from Meteor Games, a company headed by Adam Powell and Donna Williams. --Squids'and'Chips 23:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. :) Collectonian (talk) 00:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2009 movie?

IMDB has a page for something called The Lost Tomb: A Neopets Adventure with a release date of April 20, 2009. Does anyone know anything about this, and have there been any press releases about it? Esn (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

As far as we know, it doesn't exist. In production doesn't mean anything. They continually push the date forward and there's only an oblique mention of it on the Neopets website that says Winter 2010. (And it's on a partially obscured page.) --Squids'and'Chips 21:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, if a reliable source said that it was "in production", that actually would mean something. That's already a stage up from "pre-production", and would likely merit a mention here. IMDB is not considered a reliable source, though, so I was wondering if there was some news release about this. Esn (talk) 08:21, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Just because it is on a partially obscured page means nothing. And, it also seems the page was deleted (from the site, of course) Regardless, I think I should add it. How about:

"Though there is no official evidence, rumors suggest that there may be an upcoming Neopets movie coming out in winter 2010. However, the only sources that can verify this is the site itself, on partially obscured page (though it may be merely a joke by the staff) and an unreliable website."

Any objections or suggestions? Mumblebot (talk) 02:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Oppose. We aren't a rumor mill and unless/until it can be verified by multiple reliable sources, it doesn't belong. Collectonian (talk) 02:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


...Okay, I agree to that cause. Mumblebot (talk) 04:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Potential rewrite

I pretty much haven't touched this article in a while since it's... I don't really need to say it. But I will raise several points:

  1. For the sake of neutrality, cut the section title "Criticism" and leave "Gambling-based issues" where it is or merge it into "Immersive advertising" or "Games". As it stands, the "Criticism" section stands for nothing but a blurb of everything said somewhere else and it only raises a point that there is criticism. done, insofar as it's moved and removed --Squids'and'Chips 02:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  2. Cut the "Community" section into pretty much four or five paragraphs with one on each current subsection.
  3. Expand "Immersive advertising" since the section is comparatively small and it's the most widely cited controversial aspect of Neopets because it is considered marketing to children, which in and of itself is controversial. Although, currently, immersive advertising is pretty much a new "sponsor games" everyday, even though there was more varied immersive content in the past.
  4. Include section on surveys if there are sources to be found. (Neopets used to and might still have surveys where users get Neopoints for filling them out. Even had a Survey Shack, but that's gone. Possibly related to immersive advertising.)
  5. Include something about banner advertisements if there are sources to be found since the site is littered with them even though it wasn't so at the beginning. (Also possibly related to immersive advertising.)
  6. And a minor? somewhat unrelated note, but everyone under Kyra Reppen pretty much no longer works for Neopets, Inc. There isn't a source to the contrary that's not a mirror/fork of WikiP, so they should probably be removed.

and that is all for now, but that is not to say that I don't have something to say for the other sections of this article, because what I've listed is not much like a potential rewrite. I'm sure I'm partially responsible for points 1 and 3. I'd do something about it, but my mind is pretty taxed right now. --Squids'and'Chips 01:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The "Exclusive content" section was gutted, mostly, and looking rather feeble. I moved the Neopets Magazine out since it didn't belong either under "Exclusive content" or the previous header, "Pay features" and would better fit a Merchandise section. I plan to re-add Neopets Inc.#Merchandise back into this article with a few improvements. Of note are, at the very least, Neopets
  • Cross-promotion with McDonald's
  • foray into video games from an internet medium
  • plush and other toys
  • TCG
There may be more but I can't think of them off the top of my head. Neopets Magazine would probably go under that, but I'm not sure since it's one of those complete unsourced sections. --Squids'and'Chips 02:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dead citations

Ah fudge. Some of the Neopets citations no longer work because of dead links and the like. A few things may need to be removed (the bits about Adam and Donna) or rewritten (the other bits). These are citations that are currently numbered:

If anyone can find suitable replacements, that would be great. I believe a few of them probably can't be replaced. I discovered that they didn't work on 5 June 2008 (UTC) (although I figure they stopped working longer ago than that), but I didn't figure that out until today. Trying to figure out what to do with them.--Squids'and'Chips 02:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Whoa...I did quite a bit of rewrite in the history not too long ago, including the refs, so the ones from there must have died relatively recently. I'll see if I can find where they were moved to. BTW, thanks for taking the initiative on cleaning up this article! Its such a daunting thing, most just kinda acknowledge it needs it but do nothing. I've only pecked at it some myself while hacking away at all the side stuff. :P -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 03:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay, archive URLs added for all. Just glad they were hit before Neopets started blocking archiving :P -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 05:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the dead links. I couldn't get the Wayback Machine to work for some reason. I don't mind tackling this "Battledome opponent", but it wears me down after a while. It's probably my third go at it and hopefully I can take it down this time. --Squids'and'Chips 22:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC)