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Put up your info or dispute mine line for line.

Anonymous user at 70.179.108.205 commented on this dispute at 10:16 UTC on January 18, 2006—after it was archived—thus:
[Tony Ryals (or at least this alias, research:Roberto Villasenor, wolf blitzzer0, tony ryals and you'll find a cadre of information on injunctions put forth towards this person) is an absolute fanatic that charges anyone he comes across of being the infamous James Dale Davidson. Google him and you will see his obsession. He is an angry person who claims to have lost a lot of money in the market and now spends most of his days attacking everyone remotely connected to trying to understand the impact of naked short selling]

If you can be specific I will send what documentation I have to back my claims which or not outrageous at all.Have you read Davidson's www.newsmax.com ? Now that's outrageous.


What do you know about James Dale Davidson,his founding of the National Taxpayers Union,his involvement with NAANSS his relations to Beltway politics ? His involvement with Miser.com and 'libertarians'? His promotion of penny stock scams on an international scale ? It is indeed you who are being very unspecific.Have you ever wondered why my statements to the SEC go unchallenged by Mr.Davidson ?

I would be willing to take some of your criticisms but if you are unwilling to study what you wish to edit or censor as the case may be be then you should not be trolling the web at all.You would make a police state which is what Davidson wants with him as enforcer proud however.I admit I am biased as he ripped me off.Would you like to see my email correspondence with Davidson ? How about just placing that correspondence,his own words, with or in place of what has been written ?

Have you ever seen his promotions of penny stock scams in Agora INC.THAT PROMOTES IN GERMANY AND EUROPE AS WELL,POSSIBLY EVEN THE CIA'S IONATRON PENNY STOCK PUMP AND DUMP? Have you seen my statements to the SEC of 2003 or what stocklemon.com or the_street.com has written and documented ? Have you ever taken note of the penny stocks he promotes and how they and their share price fall to nothing as he promotes them and dumps shares and yet he always makes a profit off dumping those shares and defrauding investors ? Did you even know he was an international penny stock promoter ?

How about just putting up,not Davidson's silly right wing quotes about the poor being a nuicance and to help them just breeds more, but his own penny stock touting from Agora Inc. ? Yes I had planned to put links but I am all over the internet trying after years to expose his frauds and those of a massive supposed 'anti-naked shorting' scam that is really used to mask his and his cohorts illegal pump and dump of penny stocks,including in Europe.

Rather than you trolling to be dictator of the Wikipedia how about bringinging in a third party ? I will provide James Davidson's own quotes and links to Agora Inc.,The National Tapayers Union and meetings of Agora.Inc with CIA Tenet for penny stock promotions etc.You can edit it take out 'suckers'or 'marks' and replace it with victims of Agora Inc.'s illegal pump and dump scams if you want to.Do you like Davidson's post 911 deals in Dubai ? As an American I don't.

So I will and have provided some facts,I can provide links.How do you feel about stock fraud and the profits possibly going for international crime ? Have you seen Canterbury of New Zealand's research on Davidson from 1995 ? What do you think about that ? Do you think the Kiwis were being biased as well ? Can you tell me when and where Mr.Davidson was born ? When he graduated from Oxford and how he became a Rhodes scholar ? I will put that in.But you see Mr.Davidson is the one who keeps much out because he apppears to have much to hide.

Do you wish to interview him about his involvement with his admitted right wing causes in Washington D.C. and elsewhere ? I still have an email address that might work from 2004 ? And I will send you our email correspondence but it is on internet a google search for you to find if you were really serious about research. What other wikipedia material have you taken an interst to edit,or more so as you state,to erase entirely ?

He wrote a piece about me himself in Agora Inc. Have you seen it ? Do you want to ? He refers to me as an anonymous poster 'crazy dog' even though he knew who I was and continued lies about penny stocks he promoted and dumped as being 'naked shorted' ? I'm afraid you no nothing about what you are talking about and you yourself should do some research before criticising.How did you come to hear about Mr.Davidson,what brought you to that site ?

Have you googled James Dale Davidson and looked at the namebase.com site ? I actually believe it is Davidson who runs the fraudulent ncans.net but I did not asy so on Wikipedia.Do you believe what he says about 'naked shorting' in penny stocks and do you know his history of international penny stock scams ? You are like one who claims Al Capone is an honest man just because his government sits back and allows him to operate for years and does nothing.

What do you know about his Beltway activities ? Why don't you write something and lets criticise or eulogize that rather than trying to censor an American who pays everyday for James Dale Davidson's frauds and wishes for others to be warned about them ?

Have you seen his own right wing,far right wing,newsmax.com that tried to blame ex CIA Colby's death(Davidson's eployee before his death) on Clinton ? But instead Christopher Ruddy,his British smear writer,discloses someone in their circle predicted Colby's death a month in advance.Have you read any critical reviews of that smear and how Davidson paid a 'handwriting' expert of Oxford whose conclusions contradicted the FBI ? OR HOW RUDDY EVEN LIED ABOUT HIS HANDEDNESS,BEING RIGHT HANDED OR LEFT HANDED TO SUIT HIS SMEAR AND HOW HE WOULD HAVE HELD THE GUN ? I never even say conspiracy only amazing coincidence and I only note it as a fact.

You see I don't know who you are or why you choose to either defend Davidson or censor his critics.How do I know you are a 20 year old student in Finland ?Does anyone at Wikipedia verify your story ?

What I find most presumpyuos about you is the fact that you would seem to have no experience of the U.S.AND THE U.S.GOVERNMENT DAVIDSON HAS BEEN BEHIND THE SCENES OF AND MANIPULATING FOR YEARS. If you are not a victim what is your beef ?

I really don't even know how or where to send this so I'll press save and hope it reaches you.You can send any communication to me by way of [email removed] or if there is a means just to continue it here and or bring in a referee that's fine.

Sincerely Tony Ryals —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.230.150.7 (talkcontribs) 19:20, November 9, 2005

You are correct in that I know absolutely nothing about James Dale Davidson and his views. However, Wikipedia has a policy of writing from a neutral point of view, even when writing about controversial or emotional subjects. Please follow the link to read more about it. I'd be happy to see your additions rewritten in a neutral manner, if that's possible. Thanks! –Mysid (talk) 07:53, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Mysid, Good to hear from you.You do a google search,'naanss' to see what I sent to SEC in late 2003'(Davidson,Brent Pierce et.al.have disappeared their scam 'anti-naked short selling' website but proof of its existence remains and I believe www.ncans.net is DAVIDSON CONNECTED STILL) or 'naanss ncans' for more indymedia etc. article-posts of mine,or james dale davidson bob o'brien',or 'utah senator bennett striptease',or 'james angel georgetown ncans',or 'john reed stark sec georgetown ncans',or do google 'endoscam',or 'cia tenet penny stocks'.

I note you have some interest in the environment,maybe science ? Do a google search 'pope's misconceptions',then after that do a google of 'pope's misconceptions conception phosphates mining florida justus von liebig aristotle galileo' and you will get some idea I'm the only one who wrote that particular area of scince and western history. To see my willingness to debate or argue or show proofs of my arguments,do google search,'does oxford.indymedia censor religious criticism scince history'.Then google pietro redondi phosphates'.

If you wish I will find links to any statement I have made re Davidson for you to judge for yourself,then if you have suggestions for taking any of those facts and making them more neutral in writing style then please help.Yes help me put the credible references together.I am more an editorial writer I guess than an encyclopedia writer but even then I try to be honest and stick with facts.

Sincerely Tony Ryals —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.230.150.7 (talkcontribs) 10:46, November 10, 2005

That would be nice! You might put those links and their descriptions to the Davidson article, maybe after the sentences they are related to. I can then arrange them under a specific References heading with "footnotes", conforming to the Wikipedia style guidelines, from the article text. Reading the neutral point of view policy might help you a lot. Also you could avoid writing in first person voice, or making any claims which are based on your original, unreferenced research or personal opinions. An editorial style of writing is definitely quite inappropriate for encyclopedia articles, where only facts that can be accepted by practically everyone can be stated. I must say I don't have the energy right now to make myself familiar with the Davidson case, so I can't assist you with the actual rewriting. –Mysid (talk) 10:20, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

some links there but I have placed them with my

statements yet or removed the personal style.

Mysid I just put some links below the article,I am so caught up in the stock scam of Davidson I was caught up in I still have trouble doing the encyclopedic like writing and also,likeI said,who kows when he was born,who James Dale Davidson I and II were ? No where on the internet do you find any of that to my knowledge.

The 'Bob O'Brien' alias who runs ncans.net with a Mary Campbell Helburn,do google 'mary helburn los altos' and 'mary helburn ncans ohio',(you will be amazed what she says about SEC employees)is in my opinion Davidson or works real close.Note on blogmaverick.com from February until he posted the comment below on Yahoo NFI board on June 2he claimed never to have heard of Davidson tlill I brought him up. But I think Jesse Eisinger of Wall Street Journal shook him up that day with some discoveries,so note he say 'cell phones donations to ncans' 'boat' and 'james davidson'.So presumably Davidson is paying for ncans phones,etc.,besides Byrne of Overstock.com.

Yes someone here should ask to do an interview if anyone can find him or Agora Inc.or National Taxpayers Union can locate him or the email I have still works but I don't think he wants to be in wikipedia.I have claimed that if I provided the writing of Davidson and Bob O'brien a plagiarism expert would conclude they were the same person. Tony Ryals

FROM YAHOO NFI BOARD JUNE 2 IN WHICH 'ncansd3' or 'BOB O'BRIEN' HINTS OF JAMES DALE DAVIDSON CONNECTION FOR FIRST TIME:

Re: Send, or not? Comment, or copy? RVA by: ncansd3 Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 06/02/05 12:02 am Msg: 310727 of 333497

I would add that copies of emails in which Mr. Eisinger cites very granular banking info regarding NCANS deposits are available if they wish to email me.

What is actually funniest to me is that through all of this, the reporter hasn't considered that he might have found a guy who contributes to NCANS and has used his cash to help the cause - but is someone different than me. Someone who actually has been very helpful with things like procuring anonymous cell phones and the like, but is no more Bob O'Brien than the Granny he went to terrorize. Oh well, I'm sure it will all make great theater, and the attorneys are likely to have a ball with it. Like I said in the beginning - they require a Bob O'Brien at all costs, and it really doesn't matter much whether he is the genuine article or not at the end of the day.

And I'm not telling - not going to do it. Kind of pisses everyone off, I can tell. Sorry guys. But I'm quite sure you have the right guy - keep on keeping on - he sounds like a bad 'un to me. Very mysterious. I was told a sandwich shop was involved. One shudders to think what goes on there. And a boat. I think it's named the James Davidson. It is all unclear at present. Or maybe the sandwiches are subs - those are marine sounding.

Actually, I do kind of wish it was me. Not that it isn't. Or is. Or may be. Or not.

But what I do know is that violating federal laws is a no no last time I checked - and if what they discovered was a big donor to the cause - I hope it was worth someone going to jail over. That's what happens when you violate federal law, I think - I haven't done any federal lawbreaking, so couldn't tell you.

So what do we have at the end of all of this? People who can easily be shown to do anything it takes to get their way, regardless of the law, and who aren't bright enough to get that they are holding nothing. Capital N. Nada. Which they will ultimately find out, as do most who have nothing, over time. In the meanwhile, I think maybe this will be a good mechanism to launch the fiction book - it's about a corrupt, criminally linked hedge fund who sets out to crush a company as part of its serial killing mechanism, who uses the press to do its dirty work and considers itself above the law due to its political contacts, and decides to go after a guy that creates a website that exposes their scheme and creates considerable difficulty for them. I even have a corrupt reporter or two in it. Sort of wrote itself. I think it's a good read. Fast, and believe it or not, has a few similarities to real life.

Have to figure out how to get it out there. I suspect now is the time.

Oh well, good night all. Thanks for all the FBI and WSJ complaints - they will follow up, and they don't just poo poo this sort of thing when it involves attorney trust accounts and feloniously obtained bank records.

We shall see what the day brings.


Posted as a reply to: Msg 310685 by rvac106

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James Dale Davidson in his own words about his 'naked short' securities frauds and penny stock pump and dump activity.Although to promote a stock for purpose of dumping shares is illegal,the SEC looks the other way.I am the 'crazy dog' of his obsessions and was posting on ragingbull.com as did others to warn about his anti-naked short fraud 'NAANSS' used to divert attention of naive investors from the act that it was him dumping shares and not brokers 'naked shorting'.Mr.Davidson was founder of Agora Publications that has touted numerous questionable penny stocks over years years and has numerous websites and mail fraud scams.Agora even promoted CIA invested penny stock Ionatron that CIA insiders dumped :

http://www.vantagepoint-ia.com/Secure/IssueArchive/html%20ve…

Lies, Lies, Lies: Stalkers Meet the Stock Market

It is hard to imagine a retiree or a housewife with time on her hands suddenly deciding to make a hobby of posting anonymous slanders on the GeneMax thread. But one can read dozens of embittered messages there complaining of everything but the real problem. For example, some bozo whose screen name translates to "crazy dog" recently posted an outrageous slander of me: "Does Davidson, as founder of National Taxpayers Union, ever pay taxes on fraud pump-dumps he"s orchestrated using "naked shorting" as a subterfuge to mask his fraud?" In one sentence he manages to falsely imply that I have engaged in a whole range of felonies. I don"t know whether to feel flattered that the naked short sellers find me so formidable an opponent that they would stoop to anonymous smears, or to hire a bodyguard.

In any event, I would hope that Mr. "crazy dog" is well paid for his pains. With the possible exception of a few demented people I"ve crossed paths with, I can"t imagine anyone other than stalkers and major parishioners of naked short selling being so obsessed with me. And what humanitarian motive could explain the smears they pour down on GeneMax - a company that if it can raise sufficient funding may possibly help cure cancer? Go figure.

The Electronic Counterfeiter"s Worst Nightmare: Circle Group Holdings Rallies 30,000%

The worst nightmare of naked short sellers is that the companies they attack should survive and actually succeed. When that happens, as recently occurred in the case of Circle Group Holdings Inc. (CXN: AMEX), the counterfeiters are obliged to enter the market and buy the duly authorized shares of the capital stock of the company they have sold. CXN rose by nearly 30,000%, from 3 cents to almost $9, as naked short sellers were obliged to buy and deliver shares they counterfeited prior to CXN"s move to the AMEX.

When you think of what happened in the case of Circle Group Holdings, you can see why the malicious charges leveled against me by anonymous smear-mongers on Web sites are ridiculous. If their assertions that I was orchestrating naked short selling were correct, I would hardly have become one of the leading critics of the practice. Nor would I continue to champion the causes of the companies I had "sent under" by allegedly selling wave after wave of electronically counterfeited stock.

And as the example of CXN demonstrates, the damage done to the share prices of companies targeted for destruction by electronic counterfeiters is also a measure of their upside potential - for everyone but the counterfeiters.

Of course, even the most virulent rantings of Mr. "crazy dog" are unlikely to carry much weight with thinking people. To orchestrate more effective smears, the electronic counterfeiters needed a more apparently credible platform. An Internet site called our-street. com emerged to fill the market arising from naked short sellers for seemingly trustworthy smears of small-cap companies that threaten to succeed.

Thus for one reason or another, our-street. com and its marquee character, who writes under the pseudonym Nick Tracy, stepped up to service this market. Our-street immediately began hurling accusations about securities violations left and right. I first became aware of Nick Tracy and his tendentious exposés when someone sent me a copy of an hysterical attack he did on ChampionLyte Products (CPLY: OTCBB) , a company in which I and a group of investors took a portfolio interest as it attempted to restructure its balance sheet and realize the potential of its low-carb sports drink.

James Davidson,Vantage Point

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My correspondence with Davidson and threats from O'Brien by Tony Ryals Sunday October 02, 2005 at 10:07 AM endoscam@lycos.com


In 2004 I decided to finally contact Mr.James Dale Davidson personallY,as the Endovasc fraud continued and the SEC did nothing.Below is that correspondence which,in my opinion,might be used by a plagiarisn expert along with James Dale Davidson's fraudulent penny stock promotions found in Agora's 'Vantage Point' or elsewhere to discover if there is a link between Davidson and 'Bob O'Brien' or 'NAANSS' and 'NCANS'.


My correspondence with Mr.James Dale Davidson himself:

Note James Dale Davidson founded 'NAANSS'to mask his own share dumping after illegally using his many internet websites and use of the mail to send out his fraudulent promotions of his many penny stock scams.Note he continues to blather on and on about electronic trading creating counterfit shares.And it's all a lie to mask his share-money laundering operation.

James Dale Davidson replies: By tony ryals on 3/20/2004 8:10:43 PM E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com 'James Dale Davidson' answers,or avoids answering,as the case may be, Ryals email:

Dear Mr. Ryals,

Who are you? I infer from your rantings below that you are delusional. But perhaps more than that? Perhaps you are malicious, and in the employ of electronic counterfeiters who have feasted on the corpses of small public companies ever since the advent of electronic clearing? I can think of no other motivation that would explain your letter. By and large, normal people do not sit around inventing malicious fantasies about someone they don't even know.

Obviously, you have your own agenda, so you are unlikely to be swayed by anything I might say. I recognize that. But for what it's worth, I have never been involved in any "pump and dump" exercise. For the record, you have been warned. I would advise you not to repeat your malicious slanders in a public forum, or I shall be obliged to take legal action for redress.

Sincerely, James Davidson

P.S. By the way, your search for a company I have been involved with which was a success for its investors could not have been very diligent. As it happens, there was a long op ed piece in the Washington Post this week by a small investor who made so much money following my advice that filing his taxes had become a burden for him.

Tony Ryals wrote:

Dear Mr.James Dale Davidson, I have meant to contact you for some time regarding my Endovasc 'investment'.I have no idea when you left the 'company' but by the time you did it had dumped millions of shares while fraudulently claiming the 'shareholder value' was the result of Schwab's,Ameritrade's, Refco's,et.al.'s, 'naked shorting.Was 'famed trial attorney O'Quinn'perhaps misled to believe that all those shares were the result of 'naked shorting' rather than the apparent pump dump operation it turned to be ?

I also noted you were greatly responsible for founding the 'naanss' group that blamed most shareholder penny stock losses on 'naked shorting'.Is this just a smoke screen for defrauding Americans and laundering their money through massive share dumping that cannot easily be tracked ? Was the account Mr.Cantrell set up at Schwab with an insider for millions of seemingly free shares a part of your November 2002 pump dump ?

I have looked continuously for a company you have been involved with that was a success for its shareholder-investors. And you know I can't seem to find one although for some reason you always appear to have pumped and dumped the stock through your own myriad publications. Sometimes I believe 'The Soveriegn Individual'explains your own modus operendi of using the internet for anonymously influencing naive investors to buy while you dump the shares you have gotten for free from penny stock 'management' and then use your offshore shells including 'LOM' anmd 'New Paradigm' among many others to hide launder that money you stole from Americans so as not to pay taxes on the theft.That is doubly humorous and fraudulent coming from one who pretends to be an American patriot,even involving yourself in political intrigue,and who prides in having founded the 'National Taxpayers Union'.

Also you have claimed publically the the 'SEC lies'. This I will not comment on but to say they rarely say anything at all.And only through 'freedom of information act' can you get a thing out of them. However you also tell me in your 'Vantage Point'that you received a few shares of Endovasc by way of a 'nicotine patent'that you applied for with 'Dr.Summers.Could you please inform me what the patent number is or was it approved ? Then at another time you claim to have a 'substantial' holding of Endovasc shares through an unidentified source.Was this as a 'consultant'or what,I really don't understand.You see the only reason I 'invested' in 2001 was because of the Stanford nicotine patent for angiogenesis.Now if you left another as you claim in exchange for shares I would like to know about it.

Finally, as an off topic from my Endovasc losses due to a fraudulent pump dump, I would like to ask if you still think Bill Clinton murdered your former employee, CIA Chief Willam Colby ? Try as I might I cannot find any statement from Mr.Colby re the death of Vince Foster nor any reason to believe he agreed with you that Bill Clinton killed his own friend. Sincerely, Tony Ryals

James'Fraud'Davidson and MOD Ventures:

27 N. Summerlin Ave. Orlando,Florida 32801 James Dale Davidson jamesd@attglobal.net Private Investor, Entrepreneur, Analyst and Author. Mr. Davidson has extensive experience in entrepreneurial executive management/venture finance. Author, with Lord William Rees-Mogg, Blood in the Streets: Investment Profits in a World Gone Mad, The Great Reckoning, and The Sovereign Individual: Mastering the Transition to the Information Age. Founder of Agora Publishing, The Hulbert Financial Digest, and Strategic Investment. Director of Pickering & Chatto Publishers, London. Principal of The Fleet Street Press. Founder (natural resource companies) Oroperu, Sedna Geotech, Ouro Brasil, Oro Argentina, Consolidated African Holdings, Anatolia Minerals Development Corporation. President, New Paradigm Capital, a private merchant bank based in Bermuda, a former director of Banco Comafi S.A., Buenos Aires, Argentina and Cardlink Worldwide, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Current North American technology and Internet related affiliations: BestTransport, Mariah Vision3, Interactive Retail Management, Internet Transactions Transnational, NewsMax Media, Advanced Power Devices, Packetup Corporation, Stardata, and CyGene. Founder, MIVI Therapeutics and GeneMax Pharmaceuticals. Chairman, Wharekauhau Holdings Ltd., Featherston, New Zealand, Director, Martinborough Vineyards, Martinborough, New Zealand, and Palliser Properties, Ltd, Auckland, Deputy Chairman, BEVsystems, Founder and Director, New World Premium Brands, Auckland, New Zealand (winery roll-up and distribution).


Re: James Dale Davidson replies: By tony ryals on 3/21/2004 3:41:57 PM E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com

My Ryals,

You don't identify yourself. Really, that is rather uncivil, though hardly more uncivil than your initial missive which accuses me of a number of felonies of which I know I am innocent. Under the circumstances, I have no interest in keeping up an extended correspondence with you, given that you have made it quite clear that you are prejudiced against me and prepared to leap to conclusions which are remote from the facts.

That said, I doubt that you have a claim against me over the patent I applied for in conjunction with Dr. Summers, as Endovasc signed a substantial contract with a major nutraceutical firm to market the product. This has all been announced. As to being proud of it, yes, I am. It was a valid insight that has been confirmed in human and animal testing.

Sincerely,

James Davidson

Tony Ryals wrote:

Dear Mr. James Dale Davidson, I appreciate your attempt at a reply but other than your name calling there was a total disregard for the questions I posed.Others,than you or I, who are both biased as to whether your 'Vantage Point' Endovasc articles are pump dumps,can deal with that.

I, as an 'investor' in Endovasc long before you appeared,would just like to focus on the nicotine patent you wrote with Dr.Summers.Remember that you proudy announced that you had co-patented it with Dr.Summers in 'Vantage Point' in 2002 when the stock was being featured in 'Vantage Point' ? Where can I find the number of this patent ? And just how many shares did it cost us, the humble naive investors who bought our shares the old fahioned way ,through those dirty naked shorting mms such as Charles Schwab ? You are more sophistiated re securities than I so you might help me locate this tranacton in SEC filings or fill me in as to why such minor details are not requred in SEC filings.

Your assistance in locating this patent that all EVSC INVESTORS ARE MOST PROUD OF IS MOST APPRECIATED.

Sincerely,

Tony Ryals


James Dale Davidson proud of securities frauds: By tony ryals on 3/25/2004 5:23:40 PM E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com

Dear Mr. Ryals,

Needless to say, I regret that you lost money in Endovasc or, indeed, in any investment. That said, your fixation on exploring this issue with me is entirely misplaced. By your own admission, you did not invest in Endovasc on my say-so. In the somewhat patchy account of your complaint that emerges between the lines of your demanding and unpleasant communication, I find no logical nexus between your losses and any action of mine. In pure logic, I cannot see how applying for a patent could have destroyed your investment, or exposed it to any material harm whatever. In the absence of any disclosure on your part, I owe you none. And none you will get. If you think you have a claim against me, contact my lawyer, whose e-mail address is listed above.

Otherwise, I will treat your further communications as spam in the same category as a certificate for a $10 savings on any Teddy Bear purchased in April, notice of a free poetry contest, something about "Ronald Reagan's greatest laughs," and the inevitable promise to enlarge my penis by "up to five inches guaranteed." Att is sending through a lot of malarkey, including too much from you. You have not behaved as a gentleman in any respect in our correspondence. I won't miss hearing from you.

Sincerely,

James Davidson

Tony Ryals wrote:

Dear James Dale Davidson, Is this your way of saying no patent exists ? All I asked was for the patent number, or if it is still pending,the date it was applied for.I would presume this patent is part of the pink sheet 'evsc' branch as that is the entity I presume is related to the $1.5 million something or other.Sure I would like to know how many shares were given to you for the patent as well. Also I am glad for you that Stanford did not challenge it as it appears it may be covered in their own patents.Stanford angiogenesis patent by the way can be located on internet.As I lost 99% of my 'share value' due to supposed 'naked shorts'I would at least like to have full disclosure re this patent. You and the doctor must have a copy describing the patent. May I see it ?

Sincerely,

.......................................................... Senator Bennett,penny stock scam,Cheetah Club

http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/110190.shtml

Senator Bennett :Is Patrick Byrne's NCANS a Fraud ?

http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883.php

Are You James Dale Davidson ?

http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11884

My correspondence with Davidson and threats from O'Brien

http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11885

A Dozen Answers From Dr. Byrne

http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11892

Byrne on coke,gay bath houses and al qaeda

http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11896



Schwab LOM and share-mony laundering

http://sfbay.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/1747107.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.230.150.7 (talkcontribs) 05:08, November 11, 2005