Talk:Mount Vernon

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[edit] Tagging this for wikification

The reasons seem fairly obvious. Also, the huge opening paragraph perhaps needs other editing and/or breaking up as well. - Smerdis of Tlön 19:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I took a crack at it. It probably needs to be broken up in sections still. Carl Lindberg 05:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move from Mount Vernon (plantation) to Mount Vernon, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 04:12, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


I've requested that this article be moved to Mount Vernon for three reasons. One this is a Presidential Home, much like Monticello and Sagamore Hill. Two, it is in line with other famous homes like the two previous, Graceland of Elvis Presley and Neverland Ranch of Michael Jackson for example. Three, Washington's estate is most likely the most requested search for that name. I moved the original Mount Vernon material to Mount Vernon (disambiguation), which is in line with many other cases of disambiguation pages. --Northmeister 04:46, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Support per nomination. —  AjaxSmack  07:17, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Support per nomination; although, I think this discussion should be on the Mount Vernon (disambiguation) page instead of here, in order to hear from other Mount Vernon topic editors. Neier 00:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Support as primary usage. Discussion noted at dab page. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] No fly zone

Is it true that Mount Vernon plantation is a no fly zone because low-flying planes landing at Reagan could cause vibrations enough to damage the house? FinalWish 19:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It is a no-fly zone (see here and here). I'm not sure of the reasoning, but that sounds reasonably likely. Carl Lindberg 02:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction in article?

The "History" section states 'In 1860, the Mount Vernon Ladies' Association of the Union, under the leadership of Ann Pamela Cunningham, acquired the mansion and a portion of the land for $200,000, rescuing it from a state of disrepair and neglect.' While the "Touring" section states 'The Mount Vernon Ladies' Association purchased Mount Vernon from the Washington family in 1858 and opened the estate to the public in 1860.'

So, was the year 1858 or 1860? AndyMcKay (talk) 22:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Will of Nicholas Spencer

I posted this earlier, but it was deleted. I do feel, though, that the will of Col. Nicholas Spencer, born at Cople, Bedfordshire, England, is useful because in it he makes provisos for the inheritance of the Spencer portion of the grant at Mount Vernon. This is Nicholas Spencer's ancesty [1], and here is the will that set in motion the developments that would eventually see the Washington family take full control of the land at Mount Vernon [2]. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Incidentally, the second link (from the New England Historic and Genealogical Register) also gives an interesting history of the long relationship in England between the Washington and Spencer families, one which would be transposed to the New World -- with mixed results.MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Here is a bit more on the brothers Spencer, Nicholas and Robert, and their close friends the Washingtons. Nicholas would settle in Virginia, where he attained high office. His brother Robert Spencer settled first in Virginia, but ultimately in Talbot County, Maryland.[3]MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
What may be most interesting is that the Mount Vernon tract probably came into the possession of the Washingtons and the Spencers by patent of Lord Culpepper, Governor of Virginia, due to an apparent kinship between the Spencers and the Culpeppers.[4]MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Col. Nicholas Spencer was Secretary of Virginia and Acting Governor in 1683. Contemporaneous records show Spencer exerted a great deal of influence in the new colony.[5]MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)