User talk:Mizu onna sango15/Archive 1
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Hello, Mizu onna sango15, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:
- Introduction
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page
- How to write a great article
- Manual of Style
- Also feel free to make test edits in the sandbox.
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, please see our help pages, and if you can't find what you are looking for there, please feel free to leave me a message. L337p4wn 05:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello! I have already read the Talk pages guidelines/information, but I am still unsure as to how to you post a comment in the talk pages (I do not see any "post comment" button on the page). I would greatly appreciate any help you could provide, I am a (very) new member to wikipedia, and I lack much knowledge about how to utilise it! Thank you in advance!
Mizu onna sango15 05:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
L337p4wn October 13th, 2007
Hello! Reguarding your question, to comment on talk pages, click on the plus mark next to the words "Edit this page" on the top of the screen. When loaded, you will be shown a text box. On the top text box, you can add your subject. When you want to add a line like this:
LINE EXAMPLE
you type ==LINE EXAMPLE==. When you are finished, leave your signature by signing with the 4 tilde keys (ex ~~~~ for me comes out as L337p4wn 06:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)). Then press the "Save Page" button on the bottom of the larger text box. That's it! Glad I could help! L337p4wn 06:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
P.S., If you need any other text help, editing commands, etc. go to the Cheat Sheet page. :) L337p4wn 06:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Help
Well, (if I'm getting you question right) just go to "edit this page", find the section where the person left the comment, type your comment under theirs, sig. it, and save page. Forgive me If I'm wrong, but it's 1:37 A.M in U.S. Central Time Zone. xD
L337p4wn 06:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
{{helpme}} I'm sorry to bother you, but if someone could assist me in editing a userspace (how to format it, where to place userboxes, etc.), would they kindly give me some much needed info? I'm at such a loss for knowledge about codes to create boxes, where to paste userboxes, and such!!! Thanks!
Also, I was recently trying out new skins under "preferences," and I didn't really like the skin I chose (the one I'm using now), but when I attempted to click on "skin" under preferences, it acts as if there's no link, and it won't let me click it to change my skin! I've tried everything to make the link work, from refreshing the page, to restarting my computer, but no matter what, I can't change the skin. Does anyone know what might be wrong?
- Hello Mizu onna sango15! There is actually a whole area for userpage design! You can find it at The Transhumanist's tutorial page. As for your skins issue, are you saying that you're unable to change tabs in "my preferences"? You should be able to switch between all tabs, test that and let me know if you are able to switch to other tabs, but just not skins, or if none of the tabs work. Just reply here (no need to add the {{helpme}} tag, I'll see it) and let me know if that worked. Ariel♥Gold 21:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, so much ArielGold! I'll check out the tutorial page soon.
About the skins, do you know how when you try to click on something that isn't a link, it'll just click, it won't open? That's what's going on with the "Skin" link. Nothing happens. Also, when you hover over a link, a hand icon will usually appear, whereas now it just shows the usual arrow icon. A few of the other links aren't opening either, such as the "Math" tab and some others.
- So you're saying that you're unable to click those tabs, nothing at all happens? It sounds like something with your browser. The preferences screen works via script I believe, (I could be wrong though) so be sure your security settings in your browser are allowing it to run scripts. If you keep having trouble with this, please head over to the Village Pump Technical page to speak with someone there. I'm not that familiar with the intricacies of scripting to know what could be the problem, but I'd be willing to bet that someone over there can help you. Just drop a note there and someone will probably answer within a few minutes, that's one of the busier help pages. Ariel♥Gold 14:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks, Ariel! I greatly appreciate it.
{{helpme}} I was recently reading WP:RS, and it was very helpful, but I still don't know which websites are considered reliable, and which aren't. What I mean is, one can properly cite the source of information in an article, yes, but how can one really be sure the information in the souce cited (the content in the website) is reliable?
- Answer: It's difficult, but generally common sense prevails. A good technique is using Google to see if your source is linked from many pages, which establishes popularity. If you're having serious doubts about the source you want to use, chances are it isn't appropriate. A good way to learn is by example, so if you're having further problems, let me know the exact circumstances on my talk page and we could evaluate it together. Cheers, --Pumpmeup 05:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks! Mizu onna sango15 06:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey!
What's up? To answer your first question, I truthfully have no idea how to do the boxes thing...(I copied the text from Jimmy Whale's page and edited it a little!) And for the second question, to add a photo find the photo's name.
For instance, I'll use the photo "Example.png". When I want to make a box for it, I'll copy the name, (Example.png), then type [[Image:Example.png]] This creates
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Glad I could help!, L337p4wn
- Thanks so much! Mizu onna sango15 02:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Chat
Hi Mizu:
"I am of English, Irish, Puerto rican and African-American decent."
And speak Japanese, and a Buddhist and from Alaska.
And with a ton of user boxes.
I'm very impressed.
By the way, I wandered over here because of a weird edit you put on Spontaneous Human Combustion. When clicked, it goes to Spontaneous Human Combustion. I'm wondering if this has a special purpose that I don't know about, or if it was a mistake, or you are playing a trick on people like me.
Oh yes, I think you meant "descent" not "decent" in the sentence I quoted above.
Best wishes, Wanderer57 05:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you! ^^
Mizu onna sango15 05:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello again. It seems you put a link in the article that takes you to the article. Like going around in a circle. ??? Take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spontaneous_human_combustion&diff=prev&oldid=170463066
It's not doing any harm but I was curious about it.
Cheers, Wanderer57 06:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for notifying me! I think I would've gotten into a bit of trouble if someone else'd seen that! It's fixed. Thanks, again, Wanderer.
Questions and help
{{helpme}} I just finished reviewing the suspected sock puppets page, and I saw that some IP adresses were on the suspected list! How could this be possible? How do they know that it's the same person? Couldn't it just be someone else in the area? Also, does this mean that if more than one person lives at a residence (most specifically, dormatories), only one person living there can have a wikipedia account (since they would have the same IP adress, provided they use the same computer, and could thus be identified as a puppetmaster)?
- Sometimes IPs are puppetmasters. Like, for example, this IP who gets repeatedly blocked and resets his modem. That's sockpuppetry and something I like to call "The IP Recycling Program". -Goodshoped 02:23, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I see... Thank you for the assistance!
Mizu onna sango15 02:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
{{helpme}} How can I prevent the constant and tedious edit conflicts that I get when I'm giving out vandalism warnings to IP adresses? I just don't think it would be appropriate of me to use an {{inuse}}or {{underconstruction}} template on a user talk page, especially since it's not mine, but I'm always getting caught in edit conflicts with other CVU members/recent changes patrollers and it's a bit frustrating. Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 22:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- I would suggest using using some ANTI-VANDAL tools, such as Vandal-proof and Twinkle. You could also use User:VoA/monobook.js if you cant use the other ones (TW doesn't work on IE and VP needs regestration), but it is a little out-of-date. I hope this helps, if you have anymore questions, feel free to ask me on my talkpage.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions) 02:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 02:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
{{helpme}} I have two questions:
A) I have an idea for a good (and unusual) article, but I'm slightly worried it will end up being deleted for various reasons:
- I'm concerned that it may already have been created under a different name (despite searching for it and related titles numerous times)
- It may not be notable enough (But I don't think it's COI).
I've read many Wikipedia guidelines on writing good articles and I think I'm ready to create my own: I've checked for various problems (COI, POV, violation of what Wikipedia isn't, etc.), But I still have a feeling it may not be worthy enough. What can I do to make sure it belongs in Wikipedia?
B) No matter what I do, I can't seem to get into the IRC Chat. Whenever I follow the link, I get a "cannot be displayed" page. DO you know what might be wrong? --Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 22:31, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Mizu onna sango15. A) You might be interested in asking around one of the Reference desks WP:RD about the article - they're usually good at finding articles on Wikipedia in case your article has already been written. On the other hand you would also want to know if the article meets notability requirements. Generally speaking you can be bold and go right ahead and create the article and if after a few days you fail to show notability or remotely decent references the admins will probably nominate it for deletion (in other cases there are grounds for speedy-deletion). It is difficult to get "pre-approval" for the creation of an article, but, why don't you tell us (or the people at the reference desks) and they might be able to help find some references or talk to you about notability. You can also always just ask an admin, and in some cases an admin might be willing to post on your article's talk page outlining why they think the article should exist (i.e. show "support" for the article) which can help if a deletionist admin decides they want to prematurely delete the article before you've properly formed it or demonstrated notability.
B) Try downloading the mIRC client Rfwoolf (talk) 11:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
{{helpme}} Hello, how do I change the way my signature looks when I sign on Talk Pages? For example, if I wanted to make my signature a diferent color, precisely how would I do that? When I read WP:timestamp, it said that I can go to preferences and change it, but that wasn't really specific enough. Also, can I use a non-latin (i.e., Japanese) script in my signature as long as it links to my Userpage? Thanks in advance! Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- There are detailed instructions here, both on where to put in and on how to code it.. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I've already looked at that. What I mean to ask is, what is the wiki markup of such usernames? For example, if User:Paradigma, who is used for the sake of example on the page, uses the Cyrillic alphabet in his signature, what would he type in the box to redirect to his latin name?
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- Thank you :) Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 00:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Cool! ~_~
Heh Heh, just looked at your userboxes and noticed that you play the violin! How good are you at it? I just started my 3rd year playing it. This year at my school we began learning a lot more about the E string, and a lot of 4 finger stuff. We also had our first concert! Unfortuantly, our teacher is a ...well...a mean "witch" if you know what I mean. ;)
-L337p4wn 06:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, L337p4wn!
Yep, I play the Violin! Actually, I'm not that advanced, I'm on my 4th or 5th year playing. And, yes... I've had my share of mean teachers as well, this year I have a male teacher who has no experience playing the violin at all! O__O Mizu onna sango15 06:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh Heh. L337p4wn 18:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh and also, I noticed you also might want to speak German in the future. I speak it!, so if you ever have any "German language" related questions...just ask! :) L337p4wn 18:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Really? Thanks! ^^ By the way, what's with all those odd umlauts and letters used in German? What do they mean? Mizu onna sango15 21:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, umlauts are just like letters. The only real reason for them is to pronunciate different sounds. For example, ü is an umlaut that is pronounced "ooo". An example of a Umlaut word would be überstzen which means "translate", and is pronounced ooo-buh-zet-sen!
L337p4wn 02:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, cool! So, what does "ß" mean? Is it pronounced like it looks, like a letter B? Mizu onna sango15 02:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
ß is called eszett, which means is two s. So if I sad Tschüß, (Goodbye), It would turn out the be Tschü*ßss* (ß). L337p4wn 03:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I see! :) I like the German language! ^^ I think I've found a third language to learn! Thanks! ^^ Do you know any places where I can learn german?
Yes actually! I HIGHLY suggest Skype!!! It's a VoIP, where you can chat to people who want to make friends internationally, learn languages, and other things! It's free to call users, but they also offer VERY VERY VERY low rates for callnig landline phones across the globe. I personally use it to talk to friends from Japan, Germany, and England. My name is nick_gallegos if you ever want to chat!
L337p4wn 04:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Cool! I'll have to check that out! So, you can actually call people around the world and have conversations with them via phone? :D Awesome! What exactly is a VoIP, if I may ask? Mizu onna sango15 05:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, you can call people around the word for like a 0.0432 cent charge per minute which is EXTREMELY LOW. And you have to have a headset to voice chat to another person obviously...but you can chat to people with text, just like a normal chat window. So, you caan still talk to people around the world...but just by instant messege...or pay a small fee (about $3 per month) to call people around the world to call.
And I have no idea what a VoIP is...I like big words. :)
-L337p4wn 15:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wow. That is awesome. :D You know, I didn't think there would be anyone my age editing on Wikipedia, but that is so cool. ^^ Mizu onna sango15 05:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Wait, do you mean that in a younger sense, or an older sense? L337p4wn 15:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- I just meant that, as long as I've been editing Wiki, I've never met another teen who likes editing Wiki, that's all! Most of my friends are too busy with dating and laying on the couch at home listening to their iPods (I can't blame them) to edit Wikipedia. I'm wonder if they've even heard of it? ^^ Mizu onna sango15 03:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh Heh, I hear ya'! I only got ONE person to join, and they haven't logged on in two months. xD Yeah, most of the people at my school are:
.- Idiots .- Obviously can't comprehend common English .- Don't really care.
I swear, nobody has an intrest in teaching the world knowledge...
L337p4wn 04:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC) (Heck, I like to edit Wiki!)
- Tsk, I know. I never thought Wikipedia would be so addicting! I <3 Wiki! :D Mizu onna sango15 05:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Heh Heh, I do too! ^.^
L337p4wn 14:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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- ^_^ Yay! Heh. So, have you ever created a bot or owned a bot before? I'm thinking about attempting to create one, or maybe just adopting one. It might be helpful to me! ^^ I'm just worried about it screwing up on me. -_-; Mizu onna sango15 02:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, not really...I kinda tend to go towards average Wiki-dom. >,< L337p4wn 14:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
^_^ Heh. So, do you speak any other languages? :D I wish I spoke more than just two! Mizu onna sango15 04:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I speak German, English, some Japanese...and barely a word of Spanish. :) L337p4wn 14:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Cool! I wish I could learn some more. ^^
Hey, how do you join the Wikipedia CVU? I was up all night reverting vandalism, and I thought it might be a good idea to join. Or do you have to be an admin? -- Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 17:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
All you gotta do is go to the CVU page, look for a signup page, then add your name. Congratulations, you are now a member of the CVU! ^_^
-- L337p4wn (talk) 19:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Awesome. ^__^ Thanks, L337-chan! Sorry I haven't been active for a few days! I've been really busy lately. :D Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 18:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh it's okay! I'm always busy...(Yay!, I gained the "chan" honorific). L337p4wn (talk) 14:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes! You are now a "chan"! ^^ *giggles childishly* Heh. It could be like a hiearchy. In that case... That would probably make Jimbo Wales a "sama". :D Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh Heh, From now on...It's Jimbo-sama! xD (God, I hope he isn't reading this...) L337p4wn (talk) 14:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Heh... I know. He might vandalize our userpages (with an IP adress) for this! >_< Still, it's better than Jimbo-chan or even Jimbo-kun. ^^ Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 02:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh Heh, Wonder If he can get banned, then unban himslef... L337p4wn (talk) 04:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually... Hmm. I think he could ban and unban himself, right? I mean, he did found Wikipedia. *rushes over to Jimbo Wales statue and bows to it* Aaaah! O great Jimmy, let your wisdom guide us to... Um... Improve Wikipedia as best we can! Heh heh. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 19:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh Heh, BLOW UP THE STATUE! ALL HAIL Larry Sanger!! L337p4wn (talk) 23:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Dx Treason against The King! The death penalty you shall recieve now. Haha. That'll teach you. *Evil grin*
- Happy Thanksgiving, by the way! Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 23:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! You too! Eat any Tofurkey? L337p4wn (talk) 01:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
O__O I absolutely love Tofurky! It tastes a lot like real meat (I became a vegetarian about a year ago), and it's not only vegetarian, it's healthier for you, too! Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh Heh! L337p4wn (talk) 05:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Hey, L337-chan. Do you have a Japanese Rendering support? I keep downloading one from microsoft.com to get rid of that annoying Mojibake, but I still see garbage characters! I don't know what's going on! Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I just got the language pack from Microsoft, ad it's working fine! I hate Mojibake... L337p4wn (talk) 19:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know. I wonder... Maybe I didn't download it right. Hmm. Thanks, L337! Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 19:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
What vandalism?
Re this reversion. What vandalism are you referring to? It appeared on my browser as if I deleted two non-printable characters in the middle of "oriented". -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Eh? :S I'm terribly sorry... When I looked at it, it appeared that an annonymous IP adress blanked out the entire page! Has this ever happened to you? *thinks to self* Maybe I clicked a wrong button, or something? Ah, once again, I appologise for my mistake. Heh-heh. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 02:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Chat
Hi, do you chat on the Internet using IMs or something? -- Mentifisto 15:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Um... No, I don't. Why? :/ Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Nothing... just we have the same interests so I thought we might become friends etc. -- Mentifisto 02:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I never talked with someone from Alaska. :-p -- Mentifisto 02:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- :O Oh, I'm so sorry- that must've sounded so rude! Oh, no... I just thought that it had to do with some technical thing. ^^ Sorry about that! So, no, I don't really, but I guess we could use my talk page. :) Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 02:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, you know, now that I know where you're coming from, it just seemed kind of impolite the way I said it. My appologies! :) Mizu onna sango15 21:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Okay... so how's Alaska like? Do you have to wear a lot of cloths always because of the cold? :-p -- Mentifisto 15:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, that's what everyone thinks, but really, although it is colder than in most other states, most of us are still wearing Tee shirts, and it's about -15 F. But we do usually have at least 4 inches of snow by Halloween, so it's kinda odd how crazy peolpe are here... ^^ So, where are you from? Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 02:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Gee, tee shirts at that temperature? And you make it sound as if it's warm too... I'm usually accustomed to around 50 F! (And still I would feel a bit cold) Crazy? Nah... I think it's interesting to know how other cultures live... and it's natural, for you, after all...
- Were you born there? -- Mentifisto 11:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, we Alaskans are crazy people at times... ^^; 50 F? Positive? We would usually have that weather around August, about 1 1/2 months before the snow comes in! And yes, I was born here. :) Mizu onna sango15 04:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Aw, I bet it's nice to live there... I like cold weather and even though it's cold in winter (yeah, 50 F is about normal... I never saw snow in my life though (except in pictures)...) it's hot in summer, much hotter than usual (global warming)... although I wonder... even though you live in such different conditions than most others (in the rest of the US the temperature is radically different) does that change you...? Like, your character and demeanour? -- Mentifisto 05:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, :) I suppose it is nice, once you get used to the climate. You've never seen snow? It's nice, beautiful... filthy, of course, but actually quite nice. :D
- I think the weather does affect us, and not always in a good way. The suicide rate up here is the highest in the country, mainly due to all the darkness and cold. Still, I like the weather. The cold really makes us appreciate summer all the more once it comes around (and it gets relatively warm, here; about 70-85 F on average). :) Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 21:42, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, it is... um, how come you're so cheerful then? :-p -- Mentifisto 22:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Am I? ^_^ Maybe it's just because of the holidays. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, school... is it in igloos? ^_^ -- Mentifisto 08:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- ^_^ A lot of people outside of Alaska think we all live in igloos, and go ice-fishing daily, and wear parkas wherever we go, etc., but looking at a picture of an Alaskan city, you would think it's any other state in winter. We have streets and apartments and mansions, suburbs and urban areas, we have McDonalds and iHop and Carl's Jr., and all the stuff everyone else does, everyone just think that we're primitive because were not completely americanized, there are many Native villages where they still hunt and live off the land. Actually, Native Alaskans don't have to have reservations- there are many places up here that are nothing but villages and wilderness(an example would be in Barrow, Alaska). However, to get around anywhere (other than the big cites like Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau, and other cities) you have to use bush planes which are tiny airplanes that are individually owned and used. ^^; I guess we are still a bit primitive. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 21:07, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, school... is it in igloos? ^_^ -- Mentifisto 08:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Am I? ^_^ Maybe it's just because of the holidays. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, it is... um, how come you're so cheerful then? :-p -- Mentifisto 22:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Aw, I bet it's nice to live there... I like cold weather and even though it's cold in winter (yeah, 50 F is about normal... I never saw snow in my life though (except in pictures)...) it's hot in summer, much hotter than usual (global warming)... although I wonder... even though you live in such different conditions than most others (in the rest of the US the temperature is radically different) does that change you...? Like, your character and demeanour? -- Mentifisto 05:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, we Alaskans are crazy people at times... ^^; 50 F? Positive? We would usually have that weather around August, about 1 1/2 months before the snow comes in! And yes, I was born here. :) Mizu onna sango15 04:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, that's what everyone thinks, but really, although it is colder than in most other states, most of us are still wearing Tee shirts, and it's about -15 F. But we do usually have at least 4 inches of snow by Halloween, so it's kinda odd how crazy peolpe are here... ^^ So, where are you from? Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 02:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Okay... so how's Alaska like? Do you have to wear a lot of cloths always because of the cold? :-p -- Mentifisto 15:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
<L337p4wn enters conversation>
Bush Planes! L337p4wn (talk) 19:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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- whaps リイットちゃん (L337-chan) on head with nearby item* DO YOU MIND??? WE'RE TRYING TO TALK HERE! >_< (heh, j/k)
- ^^ So, L337-chan, how about we make this a three-way conversation? What do you want to know about AK? :D Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 02:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, no, I didn't say you're primitive or anything, in fact I could already guess that you were 'Americanized'... just needed to confirm it and know exactly how things are there.
- And actually I really hate all this 'Americanization'... really, every city on Earth is becoming the same, exact duplicate... everyone is losing their individuality... I'd rather prefer everyone to be unique...
- And like, in the past (the Middle Ages or such) people could be adventurers... discover other new countries, map them... now that's enjoyable, and nowadays we surely can't do that... in the past going in different directions meant new things to see... REALLY new things... nowadays, what exactly do tourists mean when they say that they're going to different places to see different things if everything is just the same?
- Sorry about the ramble anyway. :-p -- Mentifisto 08:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah. I most certainly agree. I've always loved other "cultures" but what I usually mean by that is the traditional heritage and customs. But when Indian, French, Chinese, etc. music is nearly the same but in different languages, it defeats the purpose of learning about other cultures. :/
- It's said that individuality is what makes the world "not boring", but nowadays, most everything is the same all around the world. Who knows, in ten years or so, there may be Otohime in ever American ladies' room and a Statue of Liberty in every capital of the World. No one will need to be culturally acclimated, because the customs and practices will be almost identical worldwide.
- At least... I hope not, anyway. D: Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 04:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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L337p4wn (talk) 15:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Yep... Real cold. And the crime rates are lower too! Much lower. ^^ Unfortunately, the school systems are about the same- believe me, kids are just about as bad here as in Jersey! And that says a lot. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- So... how did you end up there (since I presume you're not a native)? :-p -- Mentifisto 10:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- You mean how did I, or my family? Because, yeah, I was born here, but my parents; well, one came in via the military and stayed here, and another just happened to be traveling around the world and ended up here and then they met: 14 years later= Mizu-chan! ^^ (yeah, that's right, in case you didn't see it on my Userpage, I'm just a teen! *thinks to self* That reminds me! I should recruit more kids to Wiki...) Heh. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, you're funny. -- Mentifisto 06:10, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- ^_^ Heh heh. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 02:57, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, you're funny. -- Mentifisto 06:10, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- You mean how did I, or my family? Because, yeah, I was born here, but my parents; well, one came in via the military and stayed here, and another just happened to be traveling around the world and ended up here and then they met: 14 years later= Mizu-chan! ^^ (yeah, that's right, in case you didn't see it on my Userpage, I'm just a teen! *thinks to self* That reminds me! I should recruit more kids to Wiki...) Heh. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- So... how did you end up there (since I presume you're not a native)? :-p -- Mentifisto 10:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yep... Real cold. And the crime rates are lower too! Much lower. ^^ Unfortunately, the school systems are about the same- believe me, kids are just about as bad here as in Jersey! And that says a lot. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 01:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, you told me I was vandalizing. How do you know I didn't think that Cincinnati needed two charts. Just because you don't think so doesn't mean it vandalism. You should be blocked since your breaking a rule of Wikipedia. You taking ownership of a page. That is wrong.
- What makes you think I'm taking ownership of a page? I don't even know that page-- I looked it up under recent changes. Look, if I have made a mistake, just let me know. Don't get hostile. Just who are you, exactly...? Sign your comments, so we know who you are next time, please. Happy Thanksgiving. Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 20:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
sorry
I've had a bad day —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.116.51 (talk) 21:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's understandable, but please calm down. Wouldn't want an argument to start; that really would warrant a block or ban. :) Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 21:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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700th edit! ^.^ L337p4wn 01:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Yay!!! Party!!! I'll be right back with a nice fair use cake or balloon image! Mizu onna sango15 20:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, this is the best I got! Cool, huh? It's actually for the polish wikipedia's 5th birthday, or something like that. ^^ Mizu onna sango15 21:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Yay! I'm actually eating cake right now! Marble cream! MmMmMm! Fair use cake!
L337p4wn 01:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Yay!! :D Mizu onna sango15 02:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!
Welcome to wikipedia's project to improve articles on all aspects of the African diaspora. Here are the things you need to know as a member of this project:
- Add the project page to your watch list. That way you'll stay informed.
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- Thank you! I've always wanted to learn and contribute more to information about the African Disapora and just Africa in general. I can't wait to start! Thanks for the info. :) Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 21:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info! :D Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 22:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Keeping Up Appearances
Hi, thanks for your message, but I’ve only deleted a sentence from the main Keeping Up Appearances page, due it repeating what has already been said. Edito*Magica (talk) 23:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm...? According to the "diff" on your talk page, it shows that you deleted a warning to stop editing unconstructively. If I was mistaken, I stand corrected. Mizu onna sango15/????15 23:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- There are disputes surrounding my alterations to the Keeping Up Appearances episode page, but I haven’t been “unconstructive”. I have tried to improve the layout to make it easier for users but at every attempt I seem to be attacked and threatened with vandalism. Edito*Magica (talk) 23:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Oh, I see...but why, then, would someone post a user warning on your page, unless you're editing's been abusive? Mizu onna sango15/????15 23:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well, a certain user thinks that my alterations aren’t following Wiki guidelines, but I’ve read them, and they are. If you look at the Keeping Up Appearances episode list page, you’ll see what the fuss about. I think that having the info in a bullet point form allows users to find the technical details easier than having to read through one large paragraph. The “lead” is still there, just set out differently, what do you think? Edito*Magica (talk) 00:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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- That’s ok, it just seems difficult to convince the editor I’m having the dispute with, he seems to think the old paragraph layout is better, and will defiantly change it back again. Thanks for your support, and those biscuits look tasty! Edito*Magica (talk) 00:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Biscuits? ...The cookies in the picture? :D Oh, are you British? Mizu onna sango15/????15 00:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yep I’m British, just wondering, are you American? Because I know biscuits are cookies there. It’s weird because we only call biscuits cookies when they are chocolate chip. But anyway I am interested in your advice on a problem with editor Collectaonian (not sure how you spell his user name). You see, he’s reverted my edits (you know the bullet points you saw) and reported me to the administrators’ board to get me banned! (There’s a link to the administrators’ board in his message on my page). If he can get me banned just for making improvements, think of other users he can bully? What should I do? Edito*Magica (talk) 11:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Wow, that's interesting. :) Yup, I'm American. Weird thing is, though, (and a lot of people in and out of Wikipedia get on my case for this) I've always used Brit. English spelling rather than Standard American, I think I was just brought up that way. I've really come to like it better than the American counterparts, anyway. Sometimes, though, having lived in the US forever, I tend to use American to blend in. ^^
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- That’s interesting, because I always used to use a lot of American spellings, but I tend to use mainly British English now. Are you in the UK now? Or can you get Wikipedia in America?
But anyway this “Collectaonian” user is a nightmare, there’s a link to the admin page where he has reported me, it doesn’t seem fair. He also criticised me for getting yours and another user’s opinions on the layout that you saw, calling you and I “inexperienced” which I thought was really arrogant and out of order. This is the link to it: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. On the contents is my user name which will take you to the right bit. I am determined not to let his bullying tactics win though. Speak soon.Edito*Magica (talk) 22:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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I’ve just been on the admin page and its amazing how abusive Collectonian is being, these are his exact words: “His claims of support are from one or two other editors who are also as inexperienced as he is, and he continues to claim this support of two trumps” this is a personally attacking now, do you think I should report him? Not only that, but on the admin page he is making it look like it’s me who is the vandal! Edito*Magica (talk) 23:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Get Wikipedia in America? It was created in America, by Jimbo Wales, I'm pretty sure. Actually, I didn't know you could get Wikipedia in the United Kingdom. Pardon my ignorance!
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- Now, on the subject of User:Collectonian, "He" is actually a "she", I found out via her userpage. Still, sex is really not a factor, I still find it rude that she called us "inexperienced" (whether or not it may be true; I'm still fairly new, but quite experienced considering the time I've been here), and also possibly Ageist, as I'm actually a minor. However, that hardly matters. There is not age limit to editing Wikipedia, and there's certainly no "experience" limit, either! On the other hand, I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to report her for abuse, as- since she is quite respected here- it would be useless: I'm sure we would lose, since she's hierarchically superior. We'll just have to see how this'll turn out, I suppose. Well, I guess I'll be seeing you at the Administrator's Noticeboard. :( Ciao! -Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 23:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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- I take it everywhere you turn they’ll be stuff on the U.S elections then? They’ve always got it on the news over here. I wish we were getting a new government, Gordon Brown is rubbish!
But back to Collectatonian, yeah you’re probably right, but if she can bully one user (two including you) then she’ll just keep bullying others to get her own way. I might still report her for the abuse, because you’re right, everyone’s entitled to edit, and calling us “inexperienced” is wrong, because we’re not, and even if we were it’s irrelevant. Anyway, have a nice day. Speak to you soon.Edito*Magica (talk) 00:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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I’m inviting you into a discussion on the Keeping Up Appearances episode page. You see, we are trying to decide on what table layout on the page looks best, the group of yellow coloured tables, or the other type that Collectonian prefers. If you go through the above link, then to the episode page and then click on the “discussion” tab at the top, then finally click on "table type" on the content list once on the discussion page. Obviously you don’t have to, but your opinion is appreciated. Thanks. Edito*Magica (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Hey Edito! I'll just go ahead and reply to both comments of yours, then...
- Ah, yes. There's a lot of buzz about the elections already! You wouldn't believe the hype that's all over CNN and the Headline News.
- Referring to Collectonian...I'm worried about my inclusion in this predicament; have I really done anything ban- or block-worthy? And, yet, it seems she's eager to get you and I in trouble. I have done nothing but approve your edits; it's unfair that she's using her "experience" and power to make us look bad. I may still be a "newbie", but I have much experience and a fair amount of edits for how long I've been here. I agree, it's extremely rude and irrelevent of her to call us inexperienced solely because we do not agree wither her. Meet you at the discussion at Talk:Keeping Up Appearances, then; --Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 04:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Hi Mizu, great to hear from you again.
- Don’t worry because you have done nothing to get yourself banned, and you can't be banned for posting an opinion. Collectonian hasn’t even got the power to do anything anyway. I’m glad you’re going to join the discussion; I’ll glad of your support. Speak soon. Edito*Magica (talk) 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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WikiProject Films February 2008 Newsletter
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Yay!
Hooray for liberalism!
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L337p4wn (talk) 04:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hah! [giggles, cheers; bows to newly made statue of liberalism] Woooh! We should make a statue for everything!
- So, how've you been, L337-chan? :D
-Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 21:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Uggh...happy for Spring Break! Finaly getting some rest!! L337p4wn (talk) 07:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ehh. Spring Break's all over for me (ended Sunday), so I'm back at school now, but my Birthday is on Wednesday! I put my B-day on the List of Wikimedians by birthday, so I'll probably get a birthday message from the welcoming committee, I wouldn't wonder. Who knows, though. Have a happy spring break! Happy Saint Paddy's day! Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 02:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Heh Heh, only one day left for my break. Well, it was restful while it lasted!
L337p4wn (talk) 23:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
^^ Heh. I actually am sorta glad it's over for me. I rather missed school! Had to be said... :D Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 00:22, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Films coordinator elections
The WikiProject Films coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect five coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by March 28! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 09:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Excellent, I'd like to try, but could I really qualify? Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 20:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Films March 2008 Newsletter
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Welcome!
Thank you for adding your name to our project membership list! Our goal is to make Wikipedia the foremost compendium of musical theatre to be found on the internet: hope you're up to the challenge! As a project member, you might like to introduce yourself on our talk page and maybe add the project membership userbox to your user page.
If you haven't done so already, please add our main project page to your watchlist and browse our page of useful templates. When you have a moment, please take some time to review our article structure guidelines for musicals, which, after months of collaboration, we developed through consensus as our recommended structure for articles on musicals. If you would like suggestions about where to start, we've gathered a few suggestions in the Project to do list and in our tasklist.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask on the project talk page or on my talk page. Again, welcome and happy editing!

