Talk:Marathon (computer game)
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[edit] Mouselook
It's definitely true, but all sources I find on Google wouldn't be appropriate for Wikipedia. (Forums, blog comments and such). It still needs to be kept as a fact, but unless Bungie officially says that yes, they were the 1st to do it, that cite tag will remain. What a predicament!--Planetary 00:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Isn't CyClones the first to use MouseLook?--Meccaneer
On the CyClones page, it says that development was started in February 1994. Marathon 1 was released December 21, 1994. I tried to find CyClones's release date, but a Google search just gets me the other kind. If you can find more information somehow that would be great.--Planetary 21:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- OK, exactly what does it was also the first game to use "mouselook" the way we do in today's first person shooters mean? Both Doom (released in 1993) and Wolfenstein 3D (1992) used an early form of mouselook, and they both predates Marathon. And if my memory serves, mouselook was available in Blake Stone (released in 1993) as well. IMHO, that line should be removed from this article, since it feels a bit POV:ed - Exactly what does it mean to use mouselook "the way we do in todays FPS"? I say that line leaves a lot open for interpretation. "True" mouselook didn't appear before the release of Quake, the first FPS to use a true 3D world. /M.O (u) (t) 00:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I think by "mouselook", it means changing the perspective by using the mouse, including up and down. With Doom, it was only left and right. Perhaps changing it to "one of the first" would be more acceptable?--Planetary 01:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I suppose Wolfenstein and Doom technically let you look left and right with the mouse, but before this thread I've only ever heard "mouselook" used to describe a feature letting you look in any direction. --DocumentN 16:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures???
How come the articles for Marathon 2: Durandal and Marathon Infinity have pictures of the box that the game came in, but not just Marathon? could someone fix this?Xenongamer 22:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering about that. I suspect it's because one hasn't been found, otherwise I'm sure it would be there. Lh'owon 00:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Multiplayer
Only deathmatch is mentioned in this article. I'm pretty sure there were other gametypes, such as "Kill the man with the ball", but I don't know them all. Shouldn't they also be mentioned? -68.144.228.198 00:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Those weren't added until Marathon 2. Ace of Sevens 03:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
That is correct. Kill the man with the ball, (KTMWTB) King of the Hill (Koth) Capture the Flag (CTF) and a few strange others were added in M2. Rugby was added for aleph one (I believe) and Elimination is a popular USER-MADE script. I'm a Marathon junkie, can you tell? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.94.175 (talk) 00:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Halo 3 connection
Should this article reference the fact that Halo and Marathon share the same universe? The ending to Halo 3 IS the beginning of Marathon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.64.216.193 (talk) 19:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Um, no, it's not. --DocumentN 16:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Correction: It was originally intended to be true, but *something* forced Bungie to destroy that possibility. I read that in GameInformer a month or two ago. 71.161.94.175 (talk) 00:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Marathon Junkie.
- Specific issue and page reference or it didn't happen. And even if they did say it, my suspiciion is that they were probably just parroting popular fan assumptions. --DocumentN (talk) 05:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, I do not remember anything in Game Informer saying that. And if *something* forced this, it would have been Bungie's own mutually exclusive backstories for these series (see my post below.) - Fearless Son (talk) 18:36, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Guys, please, this argument has been gone over many hundreds of times in Bungie-themed message boards. Trust me, the Halo universe has no direct connection with the Marathon universe. The two timelines are incompatible. According to official Marathon timelines, the Marathon was launched in 2472 and took approximately three centuries to reach its destination of Tau Ceti, the long transit time being due to humanity's inability to travel faster than the speed of light. However, according to the official Halo timeline, the "Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine" humanity uses to travel through slipspace was created in 2291, nearly two centuries before the Marathon was launched. If humanity had that technology, then there would be no need for a sublight, multi-generational spaceship like the Marathon. And if that is not enough, read the text of the Marathon manual, a bit of it mentions details from the main character's childhood that directly conflict with the Master Chief's backstory. - Fearless Son (talk) 18:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] ESRB rating
I remember looking up the Mac Action Sack on the ESRB website in 2000 and seeing it listed with an E rating, but I don't know how to prove that or whether it was later corrected to M. --DocumentN 16:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Bungie Marathon Netplay Screenshot.jpg
Image:Bungie Marathon Netplay Screenshot.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Just pointing out here, Marathon is now open source, so I'm pretty sure that it's "Free." 71.161.94.175 (talk) 00:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Marathon Junkie
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Marathon-Arrival.gif
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BetacommandBot (talk) 00:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC) Just pointing out here, Marathon is now open source, so I'm pretty sure that it's "Free." (UTC)Marathon Junkie
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Marathon 1 Screenshot.jpg
Image:Marathon 1 Screenshot.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC) Just pointing out here, Marathon is now open source, so I'm pretty sure that it's "Free."(UTC)Marathon Junkie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.94.175 (talk)
