Talk:Luke Snyder and Noah Mayer

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A fact from Luke Snyder and Noah Mayer appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 14 February 2008.

[edit] Criticism

I don't know if this is needed.

For starters, it's not really a criticism of the couple themselves, but over the fact that two magazines referred to them as a supercouple when they're still relatively new. Second, I don't know how big a controversy it was.

Maybe some criticism might be how their later kisses have occurred offscreen, or their amount of airtime recently (though this may be attributed to Van Hansis being in that play), ect.

And on a minor note: I removed the bit about Hansis and Silbermann being taken aback by all the attention. The article itself said, "Actors Van Hansis and Jake Silbermann take it all in stride. Both claim that kissing each other was far easier than dealing with the Paparazzi that invaded the set the day the smooch was shot." --Silvestris (talk) 18:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Silvestris, the criticism about them being named a supercouple so early is about them, and is a criticism of the couple. I wouldn't have included it if it was not. As for the bit about Hansis and Silbermann being taken aback by all the attention, I don't mind that removal at all, of course. It would have been better placed in their background section, where it's acknowledged that they are shocked about the media attention they've gotten.

As for criticism about how their later kisses have occurred offscreen, or their amount of airtime recently, etc., that's not a true criticism of the couple but rather of the writers and show. That could fit into a new section, of course, though I'm not sure what it would be titled at the moment. Flyer22 (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

As for criticism about how their later kisses have occurred offscreen, or their amount of airtime recently, ect., that's not a true criticism of the couple but rather of the writers and show.

Then wouldn't the criticism of them being called a supercouple be more a criticism of the magazines who referred to them as such?

I mean, it's not like this is a criticism of their acting or their storyline. --Silvestris (talk) 19:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I still wouldn't necessarily say that it's not about them directly, but you could mention how those two magazines have been criticized for naming them a supercouple so early, which I think you just did. Flyer22 (talk) 19:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, you didn't do that...yet. But, Silvetris, what do you have against that quote by a poster? It explains the feelings of people who feel that they were given the supercouple title too quickly. The fact that a lot of people feel that they were titled such due to being the only gay couple at this time is important to mention. Flyer22 (talk) 19:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That is still mentioned. But, again, what do you object to about the quote being used? Flyer22 (talk) 19:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I had posted on the original topic that was quoted on AE; that user also argued that the only reason why people didn't criticize Nuke was because they were afraid of being called homophobic (which is untrue, btw; I've seen criticism of Nuke on other forums, from the storyline to Silbermann's acting).

And while saying they aren't a supercouple yet is one thing, I didn't like how the user said "Posters on message boards were declaring them the hottest thing in daytime before Noah ever aired, They are a manufactured couple, that was cast with that intention." --Silvestris (talk) 19:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I suppose that section works just as well without that quote. Flyer22 (talk) 19:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, someone at AfterElton.com took that page down. Whoever it was clearly saw it linked in this article and didn't want people to read such criticism about this couple, even though it's not like it was true bashing. That type of censoring irks me. It definitely is not a coincidence that that page is gone when older pages from that site can still be accessed. I'm still using that citation as a reference, however; I just put it into format without the link. It wasn't and isn't a desired type of citation, having been a citation from a message board, but it's staying in this article until I can get a higher quality reference or two for that section. Flyer22 (talk) 15:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kiss campaign

I may add a section about the kiss campaign if it lends itself a big enough section, rather than just a mention. That should address the criticism from fans about how Luke and Noah's later kisses have occurred offscreen, and their amount of airtime recently, etc. Flyer22 (talk) 19:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)