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Contents 1 NPOV 2 Multiverse and counterparts 3 "Supernatural Attractiveness" 4 Bandolier 5 Exiles 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Longshot2.JPG

[edit] NPOV

Does anyone think this is NPOV? Longshot later joined the X-Men cast in the late 1980s. This situation came about due to Marvel's insistence on shoehorning any moderately succesful new ideas that they published into the established "Marvel Universe" (see Spider-Man hanging out with the Transformers). With neither Nocenti or Adams involved, the character joins the X-Men even though he is not a mutant. --DrBat 01:17, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Never mind NPOV, there's at least two errors there. (1) Yeah, Spider-Man appeared in Transformers #3, but they quickly backed the big robots out the MU when the mini became an ongoing, and (2) Art Adams drew the story that placed Longshot in the X-Men, and (although I don't have it to hand to check), I'm fairly sure Nocenti edited it - SoM 10:34, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

She did [1] - SoM 10:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Multiverse and counterparts

I am changing the article to offer what IMNSHO is a better explanation to reconcile Mojo's allegations with the Ultimate Universe Longshot. I am not sure whether Ultimate being canon or not counts unless and until there is actually some sort of contact between the two continuities, which to the best of my knowledge never happened. Luis Dantas 15:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

If I recall, in one of the Exiles issues, where they were in the Timebreakers' dome, the Ultimate X-Men were seen on one of the various viewing screens (If I recall, it was seen in Hyperion's flashback when he told them how he was resurrected).--DrBat 04:26, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Joe Quesada and other Marvel officials have stated that the Ultimate Universe is its own reality/multiverse and has no ties to the regular Marvel Universe.

Everything is tied together in a single Omniverse. Marvel, Ultimate Marvel, DC, various animated universes, and supposedly even our own universe. Don't look at me like I'm crazy, that was established in a Fantastic Four comic years ago. Besides since Ultimate Longshot is just an Earth mutant he doesn't really conflict with the "One Mojoverse" concept.--Stranger Dan 23:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I believe Mojo was simply lying, because as we know now due to the recent Marvel handbooks, the Ultimate universe is in the Marvel multiverse (and in turn, the omniverse), thusly there are counterparts to Mojoverse residents such as Longshot. The Ultimate universe is designated as universe #1610 in the Marvel multiverse. And if that wasn't enough proof for you, at least 5 physical links have been established:

• 1) In issue #37 of X-Men Unlimited volume 1, a barrage of X-Men characters from various dimensions come into the 616 universe temporarily. Among them are various X-Men wearing their Ultimate costumes/uniforms.

• 2) The Ultimate X-Men appear on a monitor in the Crystal Palace base of the Exiles. Said monitors are used for monitoring activities in dimensions in the Marvel multiverse.

• 3) In a recent issue of She-Hulk volume 2, She-Hulk mentions that the 616 universe was nearly replaced by an "Ultimate Universe" that certain higher powers had discovered.

• 4) Probably the most important link established so far; the Ultimate Fantastic Four cross over into the Marvel Zombies universe, populated by zombie versions of classic Marvel characters. Later a zombie version of Wolverine joins an all-Wolverine based team of Exiles. And finally, the most important bit of information; the mainstream 616 Marvel universe team of Black Panther, Storm, the Human Torch, and the Thing (AKA the new post-Civil War Fantastic Four) cross over into the Marvel Zombies universe. Thus solidifying a connection between the Ultimate and mainstream Marvel universes.

• 5) Also, in the Ultimate Marvel Universe (Earth-1610) / Supreme Power Universe (Earth-31916) crossover Ultimate Power, the Earth-712 Squadron Supreme crossover into Supreme Power Universe, in which characters from the Ultimate Universe have crossed into prior to said event.

So there you have it, the Ultimate universe is without a doubt a part of the Marvel multiverse, and as such, alternate versions of Longshot, Mojo, etc, do indeed exist. --156.34.76.10 06:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Supernatural Attractiveness"

Is it actually stated anywhere in the comics or other official materials that Longshot has special attraction powers? It seems far more likely that women are attracted to him because he's handsome and has a fun personality. Kouban 15:42, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bandolier

Do we really need the discussion of how various artists have shown his bandolier or the exact number of pouches? Seems a little too nit-picky to me. If there are no objections I'll remove it. Noclevername 09:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I second, and will remove it. Kouban 21:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exiles

I recommend the Exiles section be rewritten by someone who is an expert with the subject. Lots42 01:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Longshot2.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)