Talk:London Waterloo station

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[edit] Subjects to Talk Archive 1 on 10 Apr 2008

Travelator..........................= Not now pertinent
Origin of name...................= Original name established
Future of Wloo Int..............= Wait and see in Wloo Int article
Photo request....................= supplied
Taking photos
Wloo Int cost....................= see Wloo Int article
Separation/Split................= Each sta has its own article
Bakerloo line exit...............= irrelevant
Attractiveness...........,,......= irrelevant
Names of London stations..= Now go by Official names
How many stations?..........= Unresolved
Luggage...........................= Deleted
Re Talk and Preview
Rewrite of 10 Nov 2007.......= No objections

[edit] The countries on the arch

Looking at the photo of the archway above the main entrance, I see there are seven countries named on it, but I can't read all of them. What are they and what is their significance? Akiyama 23:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Number of and numbers of Platforms

The 1-19 which followed "Number of platforms in use = 19" has recently been cut as redundant. Is it really redundant? Many stations have platforms not in use but numbered (on lines from Wloo Twickenham uses only 3, 4, and 5, CJ does not use #1). "A"s and "B"s abound. KX is growing a "Y". The parasitic twin in any WP article on the main body of Wloo has no numbers, just A, B, C, & D.--SilasW (talk) 21:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

It's okay. We only need to show how the platforms are numbered if there is something odd about the numbering such as at Twickenham and CJ. Also, Waterloo East is separate from Waterloo Main. Anywikiuser (talk) 16:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Indeed but that relies on all odd cases having been dealt with. With the hodge-podge that WP editing is, that is unlikely. I don't see what Wloo East being separate has to do with the matter. That station with letters is an odd case (for good reason) yet an editor deleted the letters.--SilasW (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Really, the 'Platforms in Use' is only there to show the numbers of platforms. How they are numbered, etc. should be shown in a platform guide elsewhere in the article. Anywikiuser (talk) 15:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Fair points, but the Waterloo & City Line platform is officially numbered 25, in line with its heritage as a BR platform, and not 7 (as it would be for LUL). Thoughts? Dmccormac (talk) 18:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

Seeing as it seems this has just split, does anyone object if i change the name to London Waterloo railway station? Simply south (talk) 17:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure though, because it does cover the whole of Waterloo station (mainline, east and Underground). It just has links elsewhere to pages for the East and Underground stations. Anywikiuser (talk) 18:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
The terminal station (London Waterloo) and the through station (London Waterloo East) although adjoining and connected, now only for pedestrians, are separate entities. LW is managed by Network Rail, LWE by South Eastern Trains. Apart from a link there should be no LWE information this article.--SilasW (talk) 15:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
True, but the Underground station still counts. Anywikiuser (talk) 17:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm not quite with you. The collection of LU platforms (just how many stations do they make? and by what system of counting?) for me should have the Waterloo tube station link and the lines, without previouses and nexts. Similarly for W Int except to refer to the transfer of platforms.--SilasW (talk) 19:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Service listings

A station article cannot reasonably be a substitute for a timetable or an online real-time train display. Here (W'loo) there is no mention of the three or four Shepperton line trains from and to Waterloo via Richmond, and probably rightly so, as a minor feature, but it leads to the question "How much detail of passenger train services at stations is good for WP station articles?"
Some editors add all the "except on the third Sunday of the month" details and put a gaily coloured previous/next station box for every service through a station, which tends to clutter the article; is the next/previous station one where the service always, or usually, or often stops? WP so far avoids the TOCs' ghastly "next station stop". Had you taken Eurostar from Waterloo the next station to see would have been Vauxhall and not Charles de Gaulle or Geisenhausen South. The few station articles appraised as A-class (or whatever the grade is) tend not to have such details which, while hardly ephemeral, are not carved in stone over the entrances. In the article for one closed (and ripped out) station there is a constructed display (not a photograph) of a week's timetable.--SilasW (talk) 19:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)