Talk:List of Irish county nicknames

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[edit] Rossies

Anyone know where "Rossies" for Roscommon comes from? Ulysses includes (Chp.13):

If they could run like rossies she could sit so she said she could see from where she was.

Does rossies here mean "people from Roscommon"? If not, what does it mean, and is it related to the Roscommon nickname? jnestorius^(talk) 20:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, "rossies" in Joyce means "brazen women". (Wall, Richard (1987). An Anglo-Irish Dialect Glossary for Joyce's Works. Syracuse, New York: Syracuse University Press. ISBN 0-8156-2399-2. ) The plot thickens... jnestorius^(talk) 15:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What is this about

Is this a GAA article or a Ireland in general article ? Basically is this about the counties of Ireland or the GAA counties. If it about the Irish counties the links should point to the county ie County Dublin not Dublin GAA, if it's the GAA the title needs to be changed Gnevin (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I've moved this back to "List of Irish county nicknames". As the intro states, most nicknames are mostly used for the GAA, but not all and not always. I've put links to both the county and the GAA county in the table rows. jnestorius^(talk) 17:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The GAA title was better ,as it nearly entirely about the GAA Gnevin (talk) 18:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The only entries directly about the GAA are the ones derived from the county colours, and the New York and London ones. The rest can equally be used with no reference to the GAA team. It's true they often are so used, but then, as Counties of Ireland states, the GAA is a major cause of the perpetuation of county-based identity in Ireland. jnestorius^(talk) 23:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ireland#List_of_Irish_county_nicknames discussion where more people will see it Gnevin (talk) 11:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Londonderry,Dublin , Northern six ,London and New York

Should the following be added? Gnevin (talk) 11:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

• Londonderry Note the GAA county is simple called Derry (GAA) in the body of the table or maybe
• Londonderry (GAA)^*

^*= Note the GAA county is simple called Derry

• Should london and new york have ^**

^**= Note the not a country of Ireland but included here as its a GAA county

• Should Dublin have a ^***

^***=No longer a legal county

• And finally should the nortern counties have ^****

^****=In Northern Ireland no longer a legal county .

Other symbols would be better of course but i can figure them out at the moment Gnevin (talk) 11:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I think a general note at the start of the list would be better than cluttering the table with footnotes -- it's hard to deal with citation notes and clarification notes in the same piece. There are two points:

1. that this relates to the "traditional" counties (hence Dub, Tipp, NI) regardless of current administrative status.
2. That the non-Irish GAA "county" teams have nicknames... Maybe, if there are more than the current few entries there, these could be quarantined in a separate table?

Nice cites for the Jacks, BTW. jnestorius^(talk) 22:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks , Ok good idea that should sort of the NI ,Dublin and Londonderry issues , i will move london and ny later today as the Hertz has to be added Gnevin (talk) 08:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)