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Contents 1 Name 2 Various! 3 A complaint by a passer-by 4 Ooops! 5 Emerson, Lake, and Palmer

[edit] Name

Why isn't this page at Leoš Janácek? Hyacinth 21:51, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)

Well, the problem is that it isn't possible to have "č" in an article title at present. Whether it's better to have article titles which have some but not all diacritical marks (which might give the impression the title is actually correct when it's not), or to just leave them all out when we can't get them all right (which at least makes it obvious that it's completely wrong, but is, well, completely wrong), I don't know. If you want to move the page to Leoš Janácek, then I for one will not complain (it should at the very least be a redirect, which I'll make now). --Camembert

Thanks, just curious. Hyacinth 00:13, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Wow! It's now at Leoš Janáček? When did that become possible? Hyacinth 20:08, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Ah, welcome back! The diacritics came with the MediaWiki 1.5 upgrade (couple weeks ago?) Antandrus (talk) 20:11, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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many gaps - what about his education in Leipzig and Vienna?

--Fandorin 23:37, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

What about it? Hyacinth 01:50, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Various!

Cello sonata? He wrote two pieces for cello, but not a cello sonata. Also, without the diacritics, this is easier to link to (consider the mess caused by trying to link to Dvorak pages on other sites, not all browsers can do this. I didn’t choose that, but I would have. Would agree that a larger worklist, e.g., would be appropriate. Schissel‐bowl listen 15:53, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

I changed Cello Sonata to Pohádka for cello and piano, which is the piece on that soundtrack. — [[User:Flamurai|flamurai^TM]] 20:16, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! There is also a Presto (according to one listing it's in E minor, I seem to recall it may (!) have been intended to be related to the Pohádka (1910 – 1923) at one point, one site gives it a timing of around 2 1/2 minutes as against 13-odd, and at least according to this site it dates from 1910. Which also lists a separate Allegro for vn/pno, but judging from recordings etc. In CD descriptions etc I see the Presto paired with the Pohádka more often than I ever see the Allegro, which I've just heard of.) I sometimes do (will try to see where, but not at 11:27 pm local) see (at least one of?) the two piano concertante works described as a large chamber work because of the use of a chamber ensemble accompaniment (hrm, or both of them? Need to check. Capriccio for piano left hand and eight winds, concertino for piano and an ensemble of six winds and strings.. both are in that sense, I guess.) Schissel‐bowl listen 04:27, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] A complaint by a passer-by

My god! Wikipedia has gone downhill (well, i had i high expectations). I cant even tell when the man was born or died. No more wikipedia sources for my students. Teacher at a Major university. check how other encyclopedias list date of birth and death, for a start. although, i have a feeling an 8 year old child could add his account here. White board this site, no real info. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.99.219.56 (talk • contribs).

You could not tell when he was born or died? Did you try reading the first sentence of the article? Antandrus (talk) 13:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I partially agree with the passer-by: the biography is rather short and mentiones nothing about Janáček's later years.

TomyDuby 03:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know something about Janáček's unfinished violin concerto "Pilgrimage of the soul" ? I would add something brief about it in the article, but it's quite hard to find information about it on the Internet... - Tanynep —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.112.111 (talk) 22:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Excuse my terrible english... Pilgrimage of a Little (or dear?) Soul ("Putování dušičky") Janáček started to write in 1926, during his visit in England. Three score sources where the torso of his composition has been found are known today, but none of them is dated. The sketched material of concerto was only in one movement(12-15 min. duration) with few remarks: p.29 "in a human being", p. 30 "the dear soul inborn in every human being", p.40 "eagle", p.49 "without the soul until the end", p. 64 "instruments die out". In 1927 Janáček abandoned the idea of concerto and used some of its material in "From the House of the Dead" opera. In 1928 J. composed incidental music to "Schluck und Jau", which contains violin solos closely related to motives known from the concerto.Dr. Miloš Štědroň and dr. Leoš Faltus reconstructed concerto in 1988. First performance took place on 29. September 1988 in Janáček Theatre, Petr Vronský conducted the State Philharmonic of Brno, and the violin part played Jan Stanovský. I know at least two recordings of the concerto, first with Václav Neumann conducting Czech Philharmony and with Josef Suk on Violin, second with František Jílek and Brno State Phiharmony, violin part performed by Ivan Ženatý. my sources: Putování dušičky. Ricostituzione critica. Partitura. Editio Supraphon 1997. H 7738. by wikifan:Antonín Vejvančický—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.208.123.168 (talk) 15:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ooops!

I'm a fan both of this composer and Wikipedia who entered this page merely to commend this article: it is accurate, brief and complete while being suitable for expanding, in which case please have at it. To me, this is Wikipedia at its best. But "Passer-by's" post scares me: like him/her I taught at "major universities" (Clemson [SC USA] and the US Naval Academy) but (unlike him/her) I still worry about writing complete sentences, using punctuation properly and capitalizing proper nouns. If s/he represents the present of higher education I am very scared about the future of the culture. And, yes, Janáček's */+ dates are right there in the article in front of God (capitalization as the reader prefers) and everybody (same caveat). Congratulations to whoever wrote this in the first place--I'd like to take it as my model! Clay2 (talk) 02:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Emerson, Lake, and Palmer

Re: "Entitled "Knife-Edge," the song (for which Janáček is co-credited as composer) appeared on their 1970 debut LP Emerson Lake & Palmer":

I'll check again to make sure when I get home, but although Janacek may have been credited in a later edition, as I remember it "their 1970 debut LP Emerson Lake & Palmer" in its original LP form credited neither Janacek nor Bartok (the entirety of Bartok's Allegro Barbaro is eventually present in the opening piece "The Barbarian"). Moreover the group took considerable flak for this. I remember a particularly scathing attack in Stereo Review. The footnote at the end of the quoted passage above as it appears in the article, by the way, seems to lead directly to the "Emerson, Lake, and Palmer" article, implying that one wikipedia article can be a valid source for another, which, of course, it never can. TheScotch (talk) 10:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)