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Contents 1 Featured Article Candidate 2 Featured in The Times? 3 Prequel? 4 Series

[edit] Featured Article Candidate

I am nominating the article for featured article status as I haven't been able to get any feedback and I cannot see what more can be done to improve this article. Redfarmer (talk) 11:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Fingers crossed! Ged UK (talk) 20:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I just did a bit of work on the lead paragraph (not sure I'm happy yet, but it's a start), and then took a look at the FAC comments. Whoa! I'm the new copyeditor in town—is this what it's like? It's discouraging, isn't it? Some of the comments are vague, and some of them I simply don't agree with. I see nothing inherently wrong with <noun> <verb>ing construction. And I think a sequence of short sentences is always choppy and amateurish. (I mention that because I saw several references to long sentences.) I've looked at several other FAC procedures and they were very different. It seems to be a random luck-of-the-draw situation. Anyway, I'll proceed on with the copyedit and try not to make sentences too long for the reviewers. BTW: One thing that jumped out at me immediately was the dated comments in the opening paragraph. I didn't see any FAC comments about that, but the MoS definitely doesn't like it.

If there's anything I do that you feel is not an improvement, please don't hesitate to reverse.--AnnaFrance (talk) 22:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it can be quite frustrating. I appreciate all your help so far. It's looking good. Redfarmer (talk) 10:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Featured in The Times?

I can't say for sure because they don't credit us in the article, but it appears that facts from this article were lifted for a trivia section on LOTSW at the bottom of a recent article on high insurance premiums for the cast.[1] Redfarmer (talk) 17:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Lazy journalism on a Murdoch paper? Surely not! </sarcasm> I haven't paid enough attention to the order that the stuff came up, but was the citation on the insurance part provided after that article was written? What I'm driving at is that I hope we aren't getting a circular reference. Ged UK (talk) 15:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It was after the article was written. I added the reference before I even noticed they had included trivia at the bottom. Redfarmer (talk) 18:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool Ged UK (talk) 19:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Prequel?

I think it would be a nice addition if you added what kind of a prequel (at the end of the lead section): novel, TV show, etc. --AnnaFrance (talk) 23:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Y Done Redfarmer (talk) 00:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Series

Do you think that the word "series", used for its two different meanings here, might be confusing for nonnative English speakers? It's just occurred to me while working on the Crew section, and I used "series" when referring to a unit of episodes (first series, second series, etc.), but switched to "show" when referring to LotSW as a whole. Any thoughts? --AnnaFrance (talk) 14:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

(Nonnative speaker speaking) I've heard native speaker say "show" when they mean "episode", and "show" when they mean "TV show". Then there is the whole American and British thing with series/season, and series/TV show/serial. It is usually obvious from context what is meant. – sgeureka ^t•c 14:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The word causes enough confusion between native US and UK English users in the series/season way! I would use the word show or programme to cover LotSW as a whole, and series for the smaller units. I don't think it should confuse anyone really Ged UK (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

You're right—the confusion is probably mostly an American issue, where the word "series" means the show and is never used to refer to a unit of episodes (which is a "season"). I've been involved in several conversations where Americans have been trying to figure out what a DVD set of the "second series" of a BBC television show could possibly be referring to. One time, someone suggested that might mean a spin-off. :) --AnnaFrance (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)