Talk:James Bond (film series)

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[edit] To Do List

The cleanup tag is at the top of the article. There needs to be a specific list of things to work on. ColdFusion650 22:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, since the tag is gone now, I guess we don't need one, unless someone has something to contribute. ColdFusion650 10:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I added the tag again. The article does not meet Wikipedia standards. It needs rewording, paragraphing, reorganisation of content, citations and other things that I can't think of right now. Jscarle 14:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Definitely citations. Whilst Bond may have not been academically analyzed as much as some film series, we can still find a lot to incorporate. As an encyclopedia, the article should best analyze how Bond is so popular and generally why the films topped the books in the popularity stakes. WikiNew 10:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the tradition section could be expanded. What about the bad guys, that is a mjor feature in a lot of the films? Jaws and Odd Job for example. Also what about the stunts? Bond films are famous for their stunts. Another tradition is the locations, traditionally superb locations all around the world have been used in the films. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.158.143 (talk) 11:49, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] UK only information

I think that it violates Wikipedia standards of it's open-source attitude to try to restrain people from adding non-UK information. Clarification that the numbers pertain to the UK box office and the dates to UK releases is needed so that US and international numbers and dates can be added. Jscarle 14:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] official/unofficial[who?][citation needed][original research?]

  • The James Bond Eon Productions films are generally described[who?] as the "official" films[citation needed] and, although its origin is unclear, this term is used throughout this article [original research?].

and

  • <!--DO NOT add The 1967 Casino Royale to this list. It is an '''unofficial''' film[who?][citation needed][original research?] and is listed in the '''unofficial''' films list, below! -->


"Unofficial" sounds rather unencyclopedic and a tad fancrufty without reliable sources justifying the use of this distinction in the article. Not going to edit it, as I don't want to piss anyone off, but this should be taken care of by users interested in the quality of this article. —AldeBaer 14:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. There also seens to be a confusion between Eon Productions as the 'official' Bond film licensees (no argument there), and the films themselves, the rights to which in a couple of cases got into the hands of others (viz. Kevin McClory and Charles K. Feldman). These individuals made James Bond films under legitimate licenses. So how did they become "unofficial", and who decided? On a related note, both films appear under a heading entitled "Radio and Television", which isn't very helpful, or accurate. --Stevouk 13:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

All this has been cleaned up

[edit] Vietnam?

According to the location map, James Bond has visited Vietnam. But which film? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kreativevn (talk • contribs) 11:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC).


In Tomorrow Never Dies he does a parachute jump over sea which is explicitly stated to be Vietnamese territorial waters. Not the strongest of connections but I'd say it qualifies as having been 'in Vietnam'.Tilefish 00:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Didn't the motorcycle chase of that movie also take place in Vietnam? Emperor001 01:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Just watched the movie again. They were in Vietnam. Emperor001 20:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good article review

I am reviewing this article as it has been nominated for review as a good article candidate. I find that it meets most of the criteria for a good article, and have put it on hold. I have inserted a number of {{fact}} (citation needed) tags in the article. Once these are addressed properly, I'll review the article again. Apart from these unsourced statements, however, I see no problems with passing the article as a good article: It is stable, has good layout, proper wikilinks, good language, fair use images, is broad in coverage and has a neutral point of view. Please note that while the GA-review tag says that it will be in place for no more than seven days, I may leave it in place until Sunday the 12th of August, 2007. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 10:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Well for me the article is missing vital ingredients. Why doesn't it attempt to discuss the essential ingredients to the films such as exotic locations and cars, beautiful women, casinos and tuxedos etc? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 14:44, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

  • This is a GAC. You should be knowing the difference between a GA and an FA. Vikrant Phadkay 15:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Vikrant. That is not to say, however, that the article couldn't be substantially improved by adding these elements, without using original research and by using verifiable references. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 15:04, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Y Done I have added the vehicles and girls information, removed OR as it was prevalent, and referenced. Vikrant Phadkay 16:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Good work. But who doesn't know the difference between a GA and an FA? Even a start class article should have covered the essential "recipe" to the Bond film genre. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 18:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not quite there yet

There are still a couple of small issues. First of all, there's still no citation about Craig being cast for the next movie - the reference to that line only pertains to the release dates. Also, I've introduced a {{fact}} tag in the bond girls section. Also, the vehicles section lacks info on all the gadgets found in Bond films. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 18:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA passed

I have passed the article as a good article. It is reasonably well written, factually verifiable and accurate, stable, is broad, and contains images. The article can still be improved, e.g. by expanding the sections on Bond girls and Bond gadgets, but that's not something I'll use to fail the article as a good article. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 06:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-up

This article was in, and still is, in serious need of a rewrite. Yesterday, it clearly was just a split from James Bond, and a film series article should not discuss television or radio adaptations, nor discuss traditions in the novels. Luckily, I have two Bond books, which I shall be using to bring this up to the standards of X-Men film series or Friday the 13th (franchise). Alientraveller 12:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

All the subsections in "Traditions" should remain. The pre-credits teasers, opening titles, etc. are all notable as repeated elements within the series. They are not covered elsewhere in Wikipedia. I agree that maybe the info on the gunbarrel sequence could be shortened, but everything that is there are staples of the film series, which is what this article is supposed to be about. Chris 42 14:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
They are actually discussed without subsectioning because those are the main cinematographic traditions. I haven't fully completed the clean-up. Alientraveller 14:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll wait until you've finished before discussing this further, but I assume that the actors who have played Bond are going to be at least named within this article? Chris 42 14:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I know they're named on the table of films, but I still think the article deserves more about them. Chris 42 14:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
True, a strong lead actor is the key to Bond's success, more so than grotesque villains, exotic locations and heavenly cleavage, so when I write development expect a lot on casting. It's just I felt in rewriting the article, the character article would benefit from that stand-alone section on the actors. Alientraveller 14:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:007.svg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Someone else went ahead and fixed the problem. Just leaving a note for reference purposes. El Greco(talk) 15:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bond 23

Shouldn't Bond 23 have its own article now? Lord Cornwallis (talk) 06:25, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

See WP:FUTFILMS. It's all talk for now. Alientraveller (talk) 08:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it should have its own article, even if it is a provisional stub.23:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.146.148 (talk)

No, read the guideline I linked. Alientraveller (talk) 09:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)