Talk:Jam & Jerusalem

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Contents 1 Date 2 Christmas special 3 Real location of fictional town 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Jamtitle.jpg 5 Article title 6 Genre

[edit] Date

The Manuel of Style, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Date_formats_related_to_topics, states that if an article relates to a particular country then its advisable to use that country's date system. This is a British programme, so I have done that. Most British people have their birth/death dates in this format so I don't see your problem. --Berks105 12:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay fair enough, I'd read the part further up the page which contradicts this WP:MOSDATE#Dates_containing_a_month_and_a_day. I have no problem with it, I just thought Wikipedia did. As I have my date formatting set to date/month/year it made no personal difference to me, I just thought we should abide by the rule. Obviously when there's too different rules, this isn't as easy as I once thought. ~~ Peteb16 12:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christmas special

The current pattern of scheduling would lead me to believe that a Christmas special cannot follow the end of the series. Episode 5 would presumably be broadcast on 22nd December and episode 6 would be broadcast on the 29th. Either one of these is likely to be Christmas related however, but if the relevant episode turns out to be part of the normal run of the series, the title 'Christmas special' would be a bit ambigous. ~~ Peteb16 14:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I've got a "Christmas special" from the Radio Times, that stated that six episodes and one Christmas special were made. I suppose we can't tell whether they are wrong until the Christmas schedules are announced. --Berks105 23:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Real location of fictional town

I have amended the Jam & Jerusalem with the addition of the line:

Some have suggested that the show is based on the actual village of Chagford where Jennifer Saunders has a home.

Twice now User:Berks105 has deleted this with the note that it needs referencing. What reference is need? I am a resident of Chagford and know that Jennifer Saunders owns a house on the edge of the village. And as a resident have been part of the village discussions that 'suggests' the sitcom is based on Chagford.

Below are some link to site showing that JS has a house in Chagford

[1] [2] [3]

I'm sorry, but the fact that members of your village have suggested that the sitcom is based on Chagford is totally irrelevant to an encyclopedia. Wikipedia can't put village gossip on there. If Saunders herself says it, then fair enough, but otherwise it is not relevant. --Berks105 10:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Jamtitle.jpg

Image:Jamtitle.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 04:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Done.--UpDown 08:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article title

The style of the programme title, according to the BBC, is Jam and Jerusalem, not Jam & Jerusalem, so the article title should probably be changed accordingly? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

My mistake, I didn't realise they used & in the title sequence. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the "sometimes styled" sentence. It's unnecessary, the 'official' styling is with a "&". It is also common sense that a "and" maybe used and we don't need to state it.--UpDown (talk) 11:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, fair enough, although all of the references on the BBC website use "and". Cordless Larry (talk) 11:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

I have found a few sites that have marked jam & Jerusalem, when i have edited it, UpDown has erased them, and i have been advised to go to the talk page and start a wider discussion. Does anyone else agree? I will post some links.

[4] [5] This one is a POV, but i think it makes it's point (sroll down to about half way to where it says NOT A Sitcom)[6] [[7]] Another POV [8] And another POV [9] I will eave it up to you lot to decide whether you want this down as a sitcom or a dramedy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HAA Best (talk • contribs) 12:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for those links. However, links [4] and [6] are from TV.com and IMDb neither of which of are considered reliable by Wikipedia. Links [7], [8] and [9] are blogs, equally not considered reliable sources. That leave only [5]. And as I have said the official website [10], uses the term sitcom.--UpDown (talk) 17:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Basically then, we have 2 BBC sites, one which calls it a comedy drama in the title (but comedy in the actual listing) and the official page which calls it a sitcom. I think the official page has to be the one we go with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ged UK (talk • contribs) 19:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)