Talk:Huntress (Helena Bertinelli)

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I just want to say that the article was a lot easier to read and less cluttered when it was written chronologically (ie, her origins in the beginning), and not in the order of when the actual issues were published. --DrBat 22:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm moving this page back to "Huntress (Helena Bertinelli)" on account of the Batgirl stint having been very short and non-notable. Virtually every comic book character has used more than one codename. The page's title should only be the same as the character's real name when both the codenames were long-lasting and notable (therefore, the Silver Age Batgirl/Oracle article is at "Barbara Gordon", but no one would support the idea of moving the Superman article to "Kal-El" because of him having also having fought crime under the names Nightwing and Nova). In adittion, both Bertinelli herself and her teammates referred to her as "Huntress" while she was Batgirl, making it very clear that the whole event wasn't meant to have any more significance than some Silver Age "World's Finest" stories where Superman would impersonate Batman for one-issue and vice-versa. Also, when moving articles, please check that you don't create any looping double redirects, and make sure you also moved the associated talk page. This page has a lot of redirects, and they got confusing when editors moved the article back to its former title without altering them. Wrapping up, if you disagree with me and wish to move to remove the "Huntress" from the article's title, please move the page to "Helena Bertinelli" rather than "Helena Bertinelli (comics)", as there is no notable real-life Helena Bertinelli we might confuse Huntress with. Good day. --Ace ETP 20:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Now you need to fix all those orphaned links Ace. --Basique 11:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Earth 8

was it officially confirmed that the bertinelli version was from earth-8?Marhawkman 19:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Derivative chararacter

This version of Huntress is a derivative character of the Huntress and no upon reviewing the extrapolated content on this page does not seem to merit its own page anymore than the other versions. In addition, there are no third party sources only references to primary source material which verifies that there is no valid reason for this article outside of fandom. Netkinetic(t/c/@) 05:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

So what if she's derivative? She's the current character and has been for the better part of two decades. She has lasted a lot longer than Helena Wayne did. Yeah, the article needs sources, but the lack of third party sources is insufficient reason to eliminate an article. If it were, we'd lose most of the comics articles. Doczilla 00:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
So then why does this article objectively merit existence as a separate article? What is the harm in merging this article back into the original parent article? Netkinetic (t/c/@) 04:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Self-contradictory

the article states the names of Bertinelli's partens to be Carmela and Guido at one place and at another it claims them to be Maria and Franco (respectively: Santo). One should clarify which one are obsolete and which one accknowledged in topical continuity--134.34.67.33 12:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)