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Bye for now

Thanks for your support on ANI. But those messages really disappointed me. I thought Wikipedia was run by rational people -- that view has now been qualified somewhat. Thanks for your help on Forbidden City and elsehwere. I think I will be taking a break for a while, maybe for ever. I will still be contactable by e-mail though... Thanks. --Sumple (Talk) 05:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah take a break if you're getting annoyed at things around here. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:13, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

A source for the maximum price on the rail network fares on the Octopus Card

Here are the links to the fare charts of the MTR and KCR: MTR fare table: [1] KCR East Rail fare table: [2] KCR West Rail fare table: [3]

Hence the maximum possible fare is $34.8.--Kylohk 09:33, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep it up!

I just want to say, great work on the 2008 Beijing Olympics page. It is so refreshing to not see strait up PRC bashing on every topic related to China. We need more people like you to equalize all the anti-PRC propagandas different special interests groups are spreading. Keep up the good work, I support you! Yongke 16:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Editing China-related articles

I barely joined in on editting pages and have already started noticing some serious issues with getting articles complete, updated, and standardised. My intent was to upgrade and unify the articles pertaining to China, its history, its people, its languages, and its cultures, but the effort will be maddening considering the amount of information to be posted as well as having everything adhere to a particular style or standard. Would you be willing to work with me in editting and posting articles in this arena? We can't do this alone, and we will need a common standard to come from to do it.

I posted this message using edit because I didn't know how else to do it. --漢慶 07:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look at WikiProject China - that's a WikiProject designed to coordinate editing efforts for all China-related articles. It should have all the types of information you're looking for. And if not, you can ask for it in the Talk page. Also, Wikipedia is as always a work in progress. Basically that means there's really no end to the editing work that needs to be done. Constant work is required. Happy editing. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

XXX-American actors categories nominated for deletion.

Thanks for the heads up. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 04:51, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. I wanted to get the opinions of people who might be more knowledgeable on the issue of ethnic minority actors in the U.S. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:03, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Diaoyutai Reference

Thanks for adding references. One thing, I didn't see where that exact quote was in the PeoplesDaily2003 article, maybe I'm missing it. One thing, though, I did see was it mentioned was similar: "The name 'Diaoyutai' first appeared in 1403 in the Chinese book "Shun Feng Xiang Song (Voyage with the Tail Wind)." It recorded the names of the islands that the Chinese had passed during their voyage from Fujian to Ryukyu, an independent kingdom up until its annexation by Japan during the late 19th century." This isn't in the Wikipedia article that I saw, but it seems relevant since it's the first mention of the name Diaoyutai. Maybe not, I don't know. I don't know this topic so well as the Liancourt Rocks/Dokdo article, so maybe you can add it if it is appropriate. If I'm wrong, sorry to have bothered you, but if you have time please check to make sure that reference covers the quote. Some of us responded to your query on how the policy relates to Liancourt Rocks, by the way, I'm not sure if you had a chance to go back and read it, or if you had any thoughts on that article. --Cheers, Komdori 03:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I've edited the article to better reflect the source. And I'll go take a look at the comments left on the Dokdo article now. Thanks. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Three Kingdoms

Thanks for all your help with WP:3K! :-) Ling.Nut 12:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Glad to help. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
How's the two-tone gold for the userbox? Ling.Nut 13:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

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Mao Zedong

Why did you claim my addition was unsourced? Just because you deleted the source doesn't mean it was unsourced. (Much of the rest of the text is unsourced, by the way.) Penser 02:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Firstly Jung is an extremely biased source, secondly, the source doesn't confirm everything you added. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 02:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Jung Chang's book is controversial, and certainly she takes an vituperative, attacking tone, but the facts are generally acknowledged to be accurate by many respected historians. If you look at the criticisms of the book, the points I noted have never been criticized. What did I claim that wasn't in the book? Penser 02:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Are you kidding? Academics have said that many of her "facts" cannot be verified, some even have said that she made stuff up. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 02:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Most academics are uncomfortable with the tone of the book, but there is hardly a consensus that the facts are bogus. http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/biography/0,6121,1498718,00.html

This criticism is mainly for a few events, such as her claim the the Ludong Bridge Crossing under Nationalist fire was a fabrication. The more common criticism is that "the untold story" is not that new or untold. By the way, you seem to be backing away from your original claim that my points were unsourced and that my source didn't confirm all of my claims. Is that an accurate perception? Penser 03:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

No, I'm doubtful that everything you've added is verified by Jung's book. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, look it up. Penser 03:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Are you just trying to destroy my contributions without explanation?

HongQiGong, what's going on, buddy? You seem to be bent on the destruction of my work, even when it is often the only sourced work in a section. Care to explain? Penser 03:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Penser

Disagreed. Your "work" is often unsourced and extremely biased. Please try to be NPOV. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

False. In many of the articles in which you have recently destroyed my work, there have typically been no references cited, and yet you pick out my contributions for destruction. And by biased, I suppose you mean not hagiographic accounts of the Chinese Communist Party or Mao? Penser 03:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

By biased, I mean you use an extremely biased source, and add text that are one-sided and not balanced. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Unsourced ABC?

What are you possibly talking about? The entire article about ABC was unsourced. I provided the only source. How can you possibly single out my contribution? What do you even dispute? Penser 03:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

That source does not even talk about the term "American-born Chinese", nor does it say that it de-emphasizes American-ness. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

The source talks about the "perpetual foreigner" stereotype. The rest of the ABC page is unsourced as well. Shall we delete it all? Penser 03:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

There is already a tag at the top to ask for more references, but the article does have one link in the external links section and one link in the references section. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

So why single out my inadequately referenced contribution? It certainly wasn't an unreasonable addition. Penser 04:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Disagreed. I thought it was unreasonable, biased, and POV. Add to that it being unsourced, I took it out. Just add a source that discusses how the term de-emphasizes American-ness and it wouldn't be removed. Otherwise I have to assume that it is your own WP:Original research. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

1. First what is reasonable about that? The reasoning was all clearly spelled out in the section. Where was the logical flaw? 2. How can we assume that the rest of the contributions aren't original research as well? Penser 04:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

1. It was unreasonable because it sounded like original research.
2. We can't.
I've said what I needed to say about this - add a source to back up the claims and it won't be deleted. Maybe Jung mentioned it in her book, too. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Ha ha. Good one. In other words, it wasn't at all unreasonable and you have no logical objection. Apparently you are just trying to delete my work out of some sort of spite or political antipathy. Penser 04:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Since you admit we can't assume that the other contributions aren't original research as well, can I assume you'll be deleting it all as well? Penser 04:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Nope. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

3RR violation

I count three reverts in a 24 hour period. Penser 03:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Previously you said I've violated the 3RR rule - which is false. Thus, warning removed. I would have violated the 3RR rule if I made four reverts or more. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Beijing Olympics

Now you've deleted my well-sourced addition about the growing use of the term "Genocide Olympics" to put pressure on Beijing? Are you a professional apologist for the Communist regime in Beijing? What is with you arbitrarily deleting every sourced contribution I make? Penser 03:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

No I haven't deleted it. I've moved it to an existing paragraph that was already talking about that issue. Please look at my edit carefully. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry about that. You had deleted so many of my contributions that I didn't look that carefully. Fair enough. Penser 03:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Anna Mae He

Anna Mae He, an article you created and worked on, has been speedy deleted by Doc glasgow (talk · contribs) with reasoning "WP:BLP not this". See User talk:Doc glasgow#Anna Mae He. Thanks, Prolog 10:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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Gaogouli Tributary relations

Your quote emphasized only on Han - Gaogouli relations. Keep in mind there was also tribute to Tang.

For example, Samguk Sagi (Korean primary source):

Year fifteen (656), summer, fifth month, iron fell like rain. Winter, twelfth month, envoys were sent to Tang to offer congratulations to the imperial crown prince. [4]

Assault11 00:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Bring it up in the article Talk page first. Let's try to avoid a revert war. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 00:23, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

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The Society Barnstar

The Society Barnstar
For your tireless work and effort to expand Asian American related articles. mirageinred 19:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 22:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Good friend100's behavior

As far as I'm concerned, there is nothing ambiguous about Gaogouli being a Tang tributary. Primary sources as well as secondary sources all confirm this. His reference to Mark Byington's article only stated that Gaogouli's tributes to the Han Dynasty (Xuantu) ended in 106 CE. But this completely ignores the successive Northern dynasties that succeeded Han. Not only that, he bases his weak argument on false reasoning - something not supported by sources of any kind. Assault11 00:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty neutral about the whole thing. Just please try to find a compromise. Maybe try to re-word the text so it'll satisfy the both of you. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 00:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
What do you suggest then? That we make a "Maybe" category? The facts all point towards Gaogouli being a tributary of Tang, there is nothing ambiguous about it. Assault11 00:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Re. Senkaku Islands

Hello. Sorry, apparently I forgot to reply to your comment. I might have a look at this move discussion, but probably I won't interfere. After Liancourt Rocks, I think I need a break from controversial move debates... Thank you anyway. Best regards, Húsönd 03:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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Stop removing others' posts

Unless you can quote me a guideline that says otherwise, stop deleting Lord Ameth's "oppose" vote on Talk:Wokou. People have the same right to oppose a suggestion as they do to support it. CES 02:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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My thoughts

As I said at the Bus Uncle FAR, I'd disagree with you whichever actions your "out of line" described. Here's how I see it:

Tony made edits that he felt improved the article and that he felt were warranted or even required by policy. He explained his reasoning and has not edit warred, either at the article or at the list of featured articles. Pretty standard Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle. Removing the article from the list of FAs was, perhaps, a bit silly, as FAR is a much more effective way of getting the community to double-check itself as far as quality standards go, but again, Tony made the edit once and then let the usual discussion play out. As for the removal of the names, I disagree with Tony's interpretation of policy, but the interpretation and enforcement of that policy is really what the ArbCom case boils down to. Which makes the interpretation Tony brought to his edits on this article relevant, and AnonEMouse's mention of this article there (which, by the way, he did make notification of at the FAR a couple of lines above your comments) appropriate.

Now, there's obviously a lot going on with the whole BLP issue at the moment, and there's been some obnoxious behavior all around. And there've been nasty comments flying from numerous people as well. Seen as an extension of that mess, the edits Tony made could be considered part of that flaming fiasco. But in the context of all that, I don't see any of the actions taken by anyone at The Bus Uncle and related pages to be anywhere near as problematic. Your mileage, may, of course, vary!

By the way, thanks for notifying the Hong Kong WikiProject of the featured article review. Totally missed the wikiprojects. -- Jonel | Speak 01:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

If he has a problem with the article, then discuss it, edit it, request a FAR, etc. But he said that the article was a piece of shit and unilaterally "demoted" its FA status. You may call it "silly", but I'd consider that out of line. I don't really care what's going on with this BLP dispute, I only wish it was over already because it's becoming very disruptive. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 01:52, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Amen to wishing the BLP dispute was over already! And I certainly concede that I may be a bit inured to Tony's abrasiveness and self-assuredness. Anyway, the article is getting plenty of eyes now, and thus becoming {even, much, somewhat} better than it was. Which is a good thing, regardless of how we got there. -- Jonel | Speak 02:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

List of tributaries of Imperial China

I think it would satisfy both sides if the nature of tributary relationships in Asia is clarified in the article. I think a good summary of its description in Tribute should suffice, though I don't entirely agree with it. Some emphasis should be given to this particular content: China often got tribute from the states under the influence of Confucian civilization and gave them Chinese products and recognition of their authority and sovereignty in return. Sometimes Chinese support were significant in local politics. There were numerous tribute states to the Chinese established empires through out the ancient history, including neighboring countries such as Korea, Mongolia, and Vietnam. Any thoughts on this? Cydevil38 22:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't really care, but I don't think it'll satisfy the editors in the dispute. I think the best thing to settle the dispute is something added to the Goguryeo listing that'll satisfy both of them. What we're really missing is an article about tributary relationships in Imperial China. I'm considering writing this, but it may be a big job if I want it to be well-written. But as far as the dispute is concerned, it's just some more spill-over from Goguryeo. Hopefully they'll just either stop edit warring or come to a compromise. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 00:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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userbox

I made the image 63 px and the userbox cell 63 px.... please do let me know if all is OK (every time you see it, that is, since you say the prob comes & goes)... Thanks for your help!!!! Ling.Nut 21:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The width of the left cell has to be a little bit bigger, or else the image overlaps onto the margin in the right cell. I made the correction, I hope it shows up fine on other browsers as well. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 21:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Certified.Gangsta 2

Hello,

A request for arbitration has been filed regarding the conduct of Certified.Gangsta.

Can I trouble you to write a statement at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Certified.Gangsta 2 recounting your interactions with him and your impressions of his conduct as an editor?

Thanks.

LionheartX 07:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Asian fetish talk page

The discussion between WikiIsforLamers and Computer1200 is getting seriously out of hand. Neither one of them has done anything but edit that page, and it's becoming their personal battlefield. Since they seem to have ignored our respective suggestions to cease and desist, maybe it's time to ask for an admin to intervene? Lindentree 10:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe an admin will just protect that page. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Quite frankly I"m not the one you need to correct. I was absent for 2 days, suffecient time for junior over there to cool off. However, it is *he* who has continued to insert snide remarks. I've just pointed out his ignorance in response, I could continue to mock his idiocy but I havn't. WikiIsforLamers 19:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese)

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Fair use images

It's all a bit confusing, but my understanding of the situation regarding WP:FU is that #1 about not being able to create a free alternative is that we should not use fair use images of living people (because by definition, while they're still alive, it's possible to create a free image of them). So in theory, promotional pictures of living people aren't actually usable under fair use. enochlau (talk)

My understanding is that Enochlau is correct. Even if it was intended as a promotional image, we can't use it under fair use if the person is alive. It does seem to be ok to use fair use images that show people at an earlier stage of their life (like an image of an actor in his prime when the actor is now elderly) or of particular events (like an athlete winning a championship to illustrate a discussion of that championship). You can probably also use a fair use image of a band if the band has broken up, even if the members are still alive. But we're definitely not supposed to use album covers to show what the artist looks like. Those are reserved for discussion of the albums themselves. The area is in a bit of a state of flux right now, so it's confusing. I'd be happy to discuss it further with you if you have specific questions. --Butseriouslyfolks 23:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't think this is 100% set in stone, but I believe generally if an article about a group includes significant discussion of an album released by the group, the album cover can be used to illustrate that section of the article. I say "significant" discussion, but this is another gray area. A bare mention in a discography is clearly insufficient. A detailed discussion of the cover art would definitely pass muster. I'm pretty sure there is something less substantial than a section that could be a standalone article on the album that would satisfy WP:FU. Hope this is helpful! --Butseriouslyfolks 23:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Japanese war crimes

Hi. Please tell me why you removed the Japanese war crimes category from Batu Lintang camp in this edit. I have reinstated the category: as it says in the article, several of the Japanese army staff at Batu Lintang were tried, found guilty and executed for war crimes committed at the camp. Thanks. Jasper33 11:39, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, oops. That was a mistake. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:21, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Good to know it was inadvertant rather than deliberate Jasper33 19:39, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


Proposed guideline at Wikipedia:Overlistification

Wikipedia:Overlistification is a proposed guideline that intersects with my proposed guideline at Wikipedia:Proposed guideline for lists of people by ethnicity, religion, and other cultural categorizations. There are some good things in Wikipedia:Overlistification and some things that would need to be changed. In particular, the section "Irrelevant Intersections by Race, Gender, Beliefs, Sexuality, Ethnicity, and Religion Lists" appears similar to what I've proposed. Some tweaking of language would be needed, but the similarities are there.

Unfortunately, there is an appearance that Wikipedia:Overlistification is being created to bolster one side of the debate around the deletion of certain types of lists. I'm sure the same could be said for my proposed guideline. As people may know, the guidelines and policies which succeed at Wikipedia tend to be the ones which reach consensus from people on both sides of a debate. Perhaps we should merge info from Wikipedia:Proposed guideline for lists of people by ethnicity, religion, and other cultural categorizations with Wikipedia:Overlistification, bring in info from the current list guidelines, and see if we all can't reach a general consensus on this issue. Any thoughts on this? Is so, joing the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Overlistification#Problems_with_proposed_guidelines.2C_possible_ways_to_achieve_consensus. Best,--Alabamaboy 18:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:Japanese porn stars

And how did you happen to come across those? (Just kidding.) I agree, and I've tagged three of them to see how it plays out. All three were uploaded by the same editor. Thanks for the tip. --Butseriouslyfolks 19:31, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I've responded over at User talk:Dekkappai. I'm not looking to get involved in this notability dispute. Just copyright issues at the moment. Thanks. --Butseriouslyfolks 22:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

list of eurasians

Look i'm eurasian and the reason i keep editing the list is because 1. Yul brynner is 1/16 mongolian the rest is a european mix that hardly qualifies him as eurasian seeing that eurasian means 1/2 white 1/2 asian. and the reason i keep taking emily booth and anglo indians are emily booth is part palestinian aka JEWISH that is the same as taking a russian and german person and placing them under the category of eurasian. Okay also about indians being asian i've always disagreed with that. Indians are asian geographically. that is the same as placing a black person who lives in latin america and a latino person who lives in latin america and considering both of them latino because they live their. Also Indians know go by a knew name ANGLO- INDIAN. I'm 1/2 chinese 1/2 caucasian and in know way does that mean to me the same thing it does to an indian person

Also indians aren't mongoloid their caucasian just like the people of the middle east. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.248.17.17 (talk • contribs) 2007-06-26 23:44:13

Very mature of you

Should I go find every picture you've uploaded and tag them? There's a difference between the reliability of historical images and ones from the modern era! John Smith's 18:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rules are pretty clear about usage of photos of living persons. That is, non-free photos of living persons do not qualify under fair use. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Really? So it just so happens you're only tagging photographs I have either uploaded or been involved with? Ok, I honestly believe you're not trying to get back at me. John Smith's 19:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Please read WP:Assume good faith. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:02, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I am assuming good faith - don't assume I'm not. Please read WP:Assume good faith yourself. John Smith's 19:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I just did. Thanks. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

User:HongQiGong/Userboxes/User Jade Ribbon Campaign

Hi. You reverted my removal of the user categorisation function from the userbox linked above. My edit to the page served the purpose of implementing the consensus reached at a deletion discussion (see here). Before the category can be deleted, it must be emptied; in order to be emptied, the userbox must be edited. Userspace is not immune from decisions reached at XfD. Please undo your revert. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 21:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Before a category can be deleted it must be emptied? Are you sure? I've never heard of that. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 22:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
My bot has made this change before I saw this discussion. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/User is where categories are processed and each is listed here to be cleared before deletion. --After Midnight 0001 11:07, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
OK. You must stop adding this category back into the userbox. It is transcluded by a number of users and it is putting them all into a category which no longer exists. I have removed it again. As this has been decided at a UCFD discussion, I will protect the page if you add it again. --After Midnight 0001 21:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand why I cannot have this in something that is stored in my own personal userspace. Other users are free to choose to use the userbox or not, but it is mostly for my own use. You can also feel free to remove the userbox from every other user who currently have it on their userpage - there're only 3 or 4 of them I think. Whether or not the userbox links to it, the category is still deleted. I have not tried to re-create the category. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 21:10, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
The category is not in your personal userspace. There is no need for the category and site consensus is against it. The rest of the box can remain, but the category may not. --After Midnight 0001 21:17, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Like I said, I have not tried to re-create the category. So your rhetoric that the category is not in my userspace is quite moot. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 21:20, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Stanley Internment Camp GA review

Thanks for evaluating the article. I've been waiting for weeks for someone to get to it. But damn! It's like you were evaluating it for FA status! But that's OK, my eventual goal is FA status and your suggestions would only make the article better. I'm going to work on the issues you listed. Not sure how long it'll take me, but can I leave a note here to ask you to re-evaluate it when I nominate it again for GA? It would be a lot more helpful than potentially waiting again for another 4 or 5 weeks for a GA evaluation. I'll try to address all your concerns, but sources on the topic are in fact kind of limited. I count 6 sources on the article right now, but most of the less comprehensive sources that I'm aware of are basically derivative of my two major sources. It is possible that I may not be able to satisfy some of the concerns you brought up. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi HongQiGong, I agree the backlog of GA nominees is infuriating - I have one of my own articles on the backlog so I decided to do something about it and started working my way through. However, one of the consequences of that is that I am new to the GA review process. I did read up on the guidelines but it is perfectly possible that I am being a lot more strict in my interpretation of them than another editor would have been - if this is the case then my apologies! I'm glad that you are happy to work on the issues raised, and I don't actually think your article is very far off FA status although (having taken one article to that stage myself to date) I wish you luck with the process, you can take quite a bruising! I have no problem re-evaluating your article again when you have done some more work on it, that seems fairer than having you wait for another editor to evaluate it. I do appreciate that the topic is obscure and was therefore impressed at the quality and variety of images you had managed to find, its just that the range of sources for citations was less impressive - it may be that there simply are no more sources available, which obviously makes your job more difficult. As I said in the GA, it was borderline anyway and I was considering passing it in its current form so with a little more work I would have no hesitation in passing the article for GA status. Good luck with your continuation of the article, and do some GA reviews yourself to get down that backlog :-) Many thanks - PocklingtonDan (talk) 17:07, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

請你創建「Vietnamese people in Taiwan」的內容

我是Taiwanese people，你是否可以創建「Vietnamese people in Taiwan」的內容？感謝你！--城市獵人 03:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

對不起，本人對這個科目不太熟悉！ Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:28, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
What's this guy saying? He's spamming everyone at the Vietnamese Wikipedia with this message, but nobody understands him. DHN 05:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
He asked me to write an article on Vietnamese people in Taiwan, and I replied to say that I don't know much about the subject. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
真是遺憾呀！現在日本語Wikimedia卻是有「ja:在台ベトナム人」的內容哦！--城市獵人 11:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
那你可以問懂日文和英文的Wikipedia editor來翻譯那個日文Wikipedia條目。 Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:32, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

oh, and by the way

As you are a Leslie fan: http://www.lesliecheung.cc/library/library.htm.

I think we can include links from this site on the grounds that you personally don't have print alternatives available, and that no internet news archive goes back to anytime earlier than 2002. Have fun! - Pandacomics 03:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain we can tag images of deceased persons under fair use as long as sources for the images are provided. It's not as good as free photos, but I think the current general concensus is that a person being deceased is a reasonable justification for fair use. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Question, though. Would you be willing to hop on board a Chinese popular music taskforce? I've got one other user so far (yay). Two others wouldn't be too bad, would it? Pandacomics 07:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll be willing to help out, but I don't want to sign my name up for it and not devote much time to it. There are a few articles related to Chinese pop music that I would like to improve. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Wikipedia's not a binding agreement anyway. Heck, we all do it on our own time. Pandacomics 16:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

picture

Hello, can you delete the Nanjing Baby on track picture from the commons too? And also this [5] I tried to resolve the naming issue and I think made a double redirect or something. Thank you. Blueshirts 20:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I've tagged it as a duplicate after uploading Image:BattleOfShanghaiBaby.gif to commons. The photo I uploaded is taken directly from National Archives, which released the photo to the public domain. Images tagged as duplicates in commons is under speedy delete consideration, so I think we just have to wait for an admin to get to it. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 20:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Forbidden City

Thanks for your help on Forbidden City, which has been recently GA'ed. I'm hoping to eventually get it to FA, so any time you can spare on that article is greatly appreciated! Thanks again, PalaceGuard008 02:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Octopus card FAC

It's a custom to put "support", "oppose", or "comment" in the front, but it's not a must and some people feel that they want to explain their reasons first before declaring their stance, as oppose to others who want to declare their stance then explain. OhanaUnitedTalk page 06:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

dogs and cat(egorie)s

Thanks for the category-ing. I'm still mulling over how to deal with the mess that is the Mandopop artist categorizing. I mean, Taiwanese male/female singers, Taiwanese "musicians," Taiwanese "pop singers"...EVERYTHING. Can't we just tag them as "Mandopop" ? Sigh. Pandacomics 05:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I think most of the Chinese music-related articles need a lot of work. Aside from the categorising, there seems to be a lot of information without backing sources. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

{{HongKong-album-stub}}

Hi - I see you have recently created one or more new stub types. As it states at Wikipedia:Stub, at the top of most stub categories, and in many other places on Wikipedia, it is recommended that new stub types are proposed prior to creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it is otherwise correctly formatted, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, and whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies. Your new stub type is currently listed at WP:WSS/D - please feel free to make any comments there as to any rationale for this stub type. And please, in future, consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha? 09:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I see that you have added this stub template to Faye Wong (1997 album). First, is there much more to be added to this article? If the article is reasonably complete, then it is not a stub. Second, are you sure it is a Hong Kong album rather than China? According to this, the track "Nostalgia" at least was recorded in Beijing. - Fayenatic london (talk) 20:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I think much more information could be added. There are no mention of reviews by critics and fans, no sales numbers, no mention of what Faye's motivations or inspirations were behind this album, etc etc. But you are right in that I don't know if this could be considered a Hong Kong album. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 21:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, fair points. Do you know what sources there are for sales numbers? - Fayenatic london (talk) 12:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't know. It might be in Chinese news articles. If not specifically the sales numbers, they might mention when an album goes platinum or something, especially for someone like Faye. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

dispute on Talk:Mandopop

This might just be my first dispute, and with someone you happen to know (Benjwong). He keeps inserting this sentence that says "Tai-pop is used to describe Mandopop in Taiwan," which it isn't. I even did a Google search for him, and yet he's adamant on his stand. Pandacomics 12:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Just a friendly warning - Re:3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Republic of China. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Nat Tang ta | co | em 19:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Umm... I haven't made any edits to Republic of China. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Oups...Sorry bout that... wrong one...I meant to warn you about Political status of Taiwan...after dealing with TingMing for so long, they just all seem like the same article. Nat Tang ta | co | em 19:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Just wondering...

Hey HongQiGong, I was just wondering...I read your userpage and saw that you speak a bit of the Sze Yup/Si yi dialect...thats pretty cool...is your family from that region? Nat Tang ta | co | em 06:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

My mother's side of the family is from Toi Saan, or I should say Hoi Saan, and my father's side of the family is from San Wui (新會). Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Ha! :D My mother's family is from San Wui...my grandparents are always talking about the oranges...on my father's side, they're from Hoi Ping. Nat Tang ta | co | em 17:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, Sun Wui is famous for its oranges and orange products, especially dried orange peels. Some of my relatives have dried orange peels that had been dried for over 10 years. These days, most of the young people have moved to 江門 to find work, so it's kind of abandoned. But some older people still live there. Check out Battle of Yamen - apparently the last battle of the Song Dynasty took place in Sun Wui. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Anthony-Leung.jpg

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Cantonese profanity

Will you create Cantonese profanity so Puk Kai can be merged into it so that discussion can be closed? I don't know anything about the subject, so I can't create it. If you can just create a basic page this information could be merged to, that would be great. Thanks! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:33, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if I'm all that interested in the subject matter as to create an article for it, actually. Maybe post up a message with WikiProject Hong Kong? Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Wahaha Danone joint venture

I just created this article on this very topical subject. The subject matter would make for a good featured article, so I am hoping to enlist your help to get it there qualitatively. Ohconfucius 02:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll take a look at it later. It looks like you've done quite a bit of work on it already. Good job! Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 02:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Ahh, i get it now. I thought that maybe it was the thing he was holding in his hand, the pike. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 21:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

No problem. You were absolutely right. Without previous knowledge, nobody would know what that caption was talking about. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 21:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)