Talk:Harvey Kurtzman

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Alfred East Newman? This longtime Mad reader never saw the middle initial turned into a name, and can find no reference to it being anything but E. Are you sure? - DavidWBrooks 14:04, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Is this an editorial or an article? It seems the writer almost ignores the many years Kurtzman spent on Little Annie Fanny and his own opinion of the strip is offered instead of general consensus.

I look forward to reading your additions to the artilce. - DavidWBrooks 12:16, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Ookabollaconganese 2 Fair use rationale for Image:Madhk4.jpg 3 POV 4 Awards and Honors - Masters of American Comics 5 Vast Overhauling Needed

[edit] Ookabollaconganese

Does anyone know about Ookabollaconganese ? Sⁱm_on D^e D_ans^er/comments 13:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The Ookaballakonga were an African tribe. They appeared in the parody of Tarzan entitled "Melvin!". It was a story in Mad Magazine, Issue Number 1, October/November 1952.Lestrade 15:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)Lestrade

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Madhk4.jpg

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[edit] POV

This page is full of POV phrases, such as "Kurtzman was known for a painstaking attention to detail, typically sketching full layouts and breakdowns for the stories he assigned to artists and insisting they not deviate from his instructions. Despite (or because of) his autocratic ways, Kurtzman's early 1950s work is still considered among the medium's finest." and so forth. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 05:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Double references for both of the above statements have been added. Others exist online. You may wish to review your NPOV tag; the language you cite has been on this page for more than two years, and has survived hundreds of edits. The biographical parameters of Kurtzman's career are generally agreed upon and not especially controversial... and the small areas of critical dispute are explicitly addressed on this Wikipage.208.120.226.72 (talk) 05:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Awards and Honors - Masters of American Comics

From the article:

Along with Will Eisner, Jack Kirby, Robert Crumb, Gary Panter and Chris Ware, Kurtzman was 
among the artists honored in the exhibition "Masters of American Comics" at the Jewish Museum 
in Manhattan from September 16, 2006 to January 28, 2007.

Actually, this exhibition wasn't started by the Jewish Museum, they picked it up at a later touring date, and there were 15 artists in total including George Herriman and Winsor McCay. Btw, afaik, Eisner, Kirby and Kurtzman are Jewish (ethnically), Crumb, Panter and Ware is not. Maybe I'd rewrite this later. I need to sleep, now. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 02:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vast Overhauling Needed

Yes, I thoroughly agree that the article reflects too much of a personal bias.

1.There is too little devoted to Kurtzman's war comics. True, he is best known for Mad and his other humorous works. However, his war comics have often been ranked very high in terms of accuracy and their realistic depiction of combat.

2. The "vast difference of quality" between Mad and Panic is strictly POV. Many of the elements in Panic would find their way into the Feldstein edited Mad. Most of what exists in Mad today, is because of Feldstein not Kurtzman.

3.Yes,Gaines refused to give Harvey 51% of Mad and essentially said "Good-bye,Harvey!" What the article fails to mention is that Kurtzman's Mad was often late and in publishing this can be costly. At the same time, Mr.Kurtzman was asking for more money for the magazine which,frankly,Gaines didn't have. Gaines consulted with a friend who simply told him to : "Throw Kurtzman out the window and get Feldstein back!" Kurtzman had been acting through a third party so before Gaines did anything, he called Kurtzman to confirm if he indeed wanted 51%. Kurtzman declared it was the truth to which Gaines said "Good-Bye, Harvey!" It was within Gaines' right as an employer and publisher but the statement "Gaines balked" leaves the impression that Harvey was being reasonable while Gaines was merely stubborn or stingy, reflecting the writer's bias.

My sources are FOUL PLAY: THE ARTISTS OF EC COMICS by Giessman and MAD ART by Mark Evanier.