Talk:Guildford Four and Maguire Seven

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Contents 1 NPOV tag 2 Gerry Conlon 3 Mistaken date of guildford pub bombing 4 Why just 1 article?

[edit] NPOV tag

There is no discussion. Why is there a tag then? Either remove the tag, or explain your reasons for tagging it in the first place.--Sjkebab 02:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the NPOV tag until someone tells us what he/she doesn't like in the article. Mr.K. 05:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Do we actually know that they didn't do it? I know of some who were at the bombings who could swear it was them indeed who did the bombing. How do we not know that it was not a political move?

Also this article is NPOV as it doesn't state that their is no definitive proof that, the men were tortured. Before anyone says it was in the book and film, that is not proof.

P.S. I didn't put the NPOV tag on and I will not now, but it does need to be looked at in places. - Anon

There is an sttement by a homeless man that states he was with gerr Conolin at the time of the bombing. thats how we know they didnt do it. Yeh but where was Gerry Conlon ??

[edit] Gerry Conlon

Gerry Conlon redirects here, but there's no biographical information whatsoever, apart from the "he is believed to have accepted a settlement" at the end?

[edit] Mistaken date of guildford pub bombing

It happened on 1974, not 1975.

re "Their unsafe conviction in October 1975 for the Guildford pub bombing was overturned in 1990 when forensic evidence proved the police had tampered with their confessions[1]."

Their unsafe conviction was not overturned - Their conviction was declared "UNSAFE" see Talk page Birmingham SIX.

( I don't think you would want the Unsafe Conviction overturned and neither would the Guildford Four. !!)

Domnal5 16:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The article does not state that the bombing happened in 1975...cannot comment on the rest of your point Aatomic1 16:26, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why just 1 article?

Shouldn't the Guildford Four and Maguire Seven be separate articles? Or is there more information to justify them being together? At the moment, all I can see in this article is that both groups were convicted of an IRA-related crime in the 1970s and then exonerated about 15 years later. Open4D 02:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

They were merged by Str1977 (talk · contribs) on 24 September because they were essentially copies of each other. [1] Rockpocket 02:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

My suspicion now regarding the connection is that the M7's act of "possessing nitro-glycerine" was supposed to have been in support of the G4's alleged bombings of the pubs. Perhaps the 2 groups knew each other through the Patrick Conlon / Gerry Conlon father/son connection? But this is not clear ... Open4D 18:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)