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[edit] Happy birthday fellow Wikipedian!
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Here's to you on your birthday, Gryffindor! From the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! |
Cheers from Canada! ;-) --RobNS 02:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] birthday wishes
"Hi there RobNS, thank you for your wishes, that's very nice of you." Gryffindor 21:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Notifictions of deleted images
The template {{nobots}} is supposed to help. You might want to check out the Template:Bots page for fuller information. Bishonen | talk 19:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC).
[edit] Archdukes of Austria
Gryffindor, as much as I prefer royal titles, I must say that the recent moves of some archdukes should probably be discussed. Are you going to move Otto von Habsburg to Otto, Crown Prince of Austria? Where WP:NC(NT) is concerned is only when royal titling is included in the name and then what form it takes. It doesn't mean that all titled people absolutely must have titles. Also, few of the Habsburgs use the -Lothringen part. Habsburg friends of friends of mine don't. On that basis, why didn't you move Francesca to Francesca Habsburg-Lothringen to match her husband or why didn't you move both of them, to Archduchess Francesca of Austria and Archduke Karl of Austria? I think you should revert the moves are start a move request. Now, if you want to move Franz Joseph I of Austria to Francis Joseph I of Austria... Charles 23:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- While Francesca's surname may be some form of (von) Habsburg (-Lothringen), so are the surnames of Géza, Felix, etc. On that basis, why were they moved to archducal titles and Francesca and her husband weren't? I believe "Felix Habsburg" is the most common name for that archduke, analagous to his brother Otto. *Certainly* I have only seen Géza ever as "Géza von Habsburg". Even on TV, his name appears as Dr. Géza von Habsburg with "Archduke of Austria" in script underneath it. These moves should be reverted and discussed. If moved at all, Francesca should be titled Archduchess Francesca of Austria. Géza should certainly be at Géza von Habsburg and Felix's case should be discussed. Also, when moving princes such as Alfred III (of Windisch-Grätz), append the title to the end of their name if they were the head of a house or ruler of a territory. This differentiates them from other similarly titled people in their family. Alfred was "the" Prince, so his formated is <Name (Ordinal)>, <Title> of <Place> while others would be <Title> <Name> of <Place>. Charles 00:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Also, Francesca's surname is different than her husband's in the article titles. Charles 00:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Prince Felix of Schwarzenburg is at the right location. His uncle, and then his cousin, was the Fürst while Felix's position all of his life was that of a Prinz (this distinction is tougher for families where all used Fürst, like Wrede, and also titles like Herzog and Graf but it is easily determined). I am as certain as you are about Alfred III because you moved him to the numeral and the only royalty who used numerals, other than the Heinrichs Reuss, were the heads of houses and families. Friedrich Johannes Jacob Celestin von Schwarzenberg has the wrong nobiliary particle anyway, he was zu, not von. He was also a junior prince because he had an older brother who outlived him who was also "the" Prince (John Adolph II). I don't mind leaving the German "von" or "zu" for princes of territories if the title isn't used. For instance, Felix zu Schwarzenburg and Prince Felix of Schwarzenburg would both be acceptable but not a mixture. Adolph von Auersperg had an older brother who died after him but a source I have gives Adolph's title as Fürst, which wouldn't make sense. I would leave him be for now and ask on his page if he was head of the house. Prince Karl of Auersperg is actually the brother in question so logic would mean that he was the Fürst but again, I would ask on the page. Charles 17:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Rudolf of Habsburg-Lorraine should stay at the title Rudolf von Habsburg-Lothringen according to WP:NCWC#Cardinals. I would leave him there, I think that religious titles generally trump royal or imperial titles. Alexander von Mensdoff-Pouilly is a bit of a complex case. I'll explain. The family has two parts: the first part has the title Count(ess) of Dietrichstein-Proskau-Leslie for junior members and Prince of Dietrichstein in Nikolsburg, Count of Proskau-Leslie for the head. Currently extinct, I believe. Alexander's line was Count(ess) of Mensdorff-Pouilly for junior members except for his issue, which was Count(ess) of Dietrichstein-Mensdorff-Pouilly (maternally related to the first family) while his title was Prince of Dietrichstein in Nikolsburg, Count of Mensdorff-Pouilly. I suggest the title Alexander, Prince of Dietrichstein or simply Alexander von Mensdoff-Pouilly. There are too many other variables. He wasn't "the" count (he had older brothers with issue) but he was "the" prince. Karl Alois Johann-Nepomuk Vinzenz, Fürst Lichnowsky's title was "Prince Lichnowsky" (no von, I believe) so his title should be Karl Alois, Prince Lichnowsky. About Karl of Auersperg, my preference is the ordinal after the name (Karl III), not before the title (8th Prince), but check to see if other princes have it. Preferably, ask about the numbers before the title at WT:ROYALTY or WT:NC(NT). It does need to be clarified. I think we use them for Leiningens here. Charles 21:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Speedy deletion of Image:Wiener Zeitung.PNG
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