Talk:Greater Mongolia

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[edit] Administrative districts of Mongolia during the Qing Dynasty

The districts of the Mongols during the late Qing Dynasty. This list is mainly based on Menggu youmuji (蒙古遊牧記).

Regions under the direct control

  • Chakhar
  • Guihua Tümed
  • Külün Buyir (Barghu)

Inner Mongolia

  • Jirim League
  • Josutu League
    • Kharachin
    • Tümed
  • Juu Uda League
    • Aokhan
    • Naiman
    • Baarin
    • Jarud
    • Aru Khorchin
    • Ongnuud
    • Kesigüten
    • Khalkha Left Wing
  • Sili-yin Ghoul League
    • Üjümüchin
    • Khuuchid
    • Sönid
    • Abagha
    • Abaghanar
  • Ulaan Chab League
    • Dörben Küüked
    • Muumingghan
    • Urad
    • Khalkha Right Wing
  • Yeke Juu League
    • Ordus

Outer Mongolia

  • Kerülen Bars Khota League
    • Chechen Khan
  • Khan Uula League
    • Tüsiyetü Khan
  • Checherlig League
    • Sayin Noyan
  • Biidüriye Nuur League

Oirats

    • Alashan Oolud
    • Ejine Torghuud
    • Kokonor (Köke Nuur, Amdo, or Qinghai)
      • Khoshuud Banners
      • Choros Banners
      • Khoyid Banner
      • Torghuud Banners
      • Khalkha Banner
  • Other four Oirat leagues

Mongols outside the Qing Dynasty

The above was previously present in Mongolia (region). It amounts to administrative trivia from a period when the region of greater Mongolia was entirely under Manchu rule. It is not obvious to me why this information was considered relevant to the article. None of the red links have much chance of ever turning into articles of their own. Almost all of the few blue links are misdirected to other subjects of the respective same names (usually people instead of geographic or administrative entities).

Since Mongolia (region) is about to be turned into a redirect to Greater Mongolia, I'm salvaging the data here, in case someone might eventually find it useful for something. --Latebird 02:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge into Mongolia

  • Oppose, the Mongolia article is about the country. "Greater Mongolia" is a good term for this article's usage. 70.51.8.180 07:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] citations

This needs citations!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuletide (talk • contribs) --Latebird 08:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The talk page, on the other hand, needs signatures (and of course more exclamation marks...) --Latebird 08:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of Greater Mongolia

Where are the mentions of the Xiongnu, Köktürk, Uyghur, Kyrgyz, Khitan etc.; the history section of this article is really poor!! Yes, Mongolia actually had a history predating the 12th century!134.100.1.177 13:39, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course the history of the geographic region as such is older. But in an article about a term specifically derived from the Mongols, the time before those actually existed may not be very relevant. The other peoples you mention all have their own articles, after all (or at least they should). --Latebird 19:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)