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I'm Jeff and I spend most of my time on WP:Aviation articles.

Notes: Discuss issues with an article on the article's talk page (most likely on my watchlist) in most cases. To keep conversations together, I will try to reply to posts where they start (here on others' talk pages). Personal attacks will be removed. Unfair and improper criticism will be ignored.

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[edit] A-4 Skyhawk & A-4SU Super Skyhawk

I'm not so good with adding references but I tried. Anyway, I was also expecting Jane's reference from online source but I found none. To my knowledge and if I guess it correctly, they had it only in print because A-4PTM was retired back in 1993/4 following delivery of their BAE Hawks. I ought to know because I stay in Singapore and I follow the region's procurement of aircraft types very carefully, particularly Indonesia and Malaysia. Regards. --Dave1185 (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Thanks for adding the link. I thought you were looking at one of Jane's books. Flight Internal/flightglobal.com is another good online source. Take it easy. -Fnlayson (talk) 21:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I was, I have Jane's Defense Weekly in print since September 1989 and Jane's Handbook for Aircraft / Ship recognition since 1997. Flight International is another good source too (have it in subscription since 1993). But that one thing that bugs me is a lot of their past data are now available online only if you are a paid subscriber. You take it easy too and I hope I didn't get on Bill's nerve too much today. BTW, I run a check and found this ==>>> List of A-4 Skyhawk operators#.C2.A0Malaysia. Oh boy... the amount of stress I had to went through when the reference was actually so close at hand. Cheers! --Dave1185 (talk) 21:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Here are two artwork of A-4PTM patches as given by Grumman to Royal Malaysian Air Force;

  1. patch 1,
  2. patch 2.

--Dave1185 (talk) 23:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

  • I don't think you can find anymore of these around as it was shot by a professional photographer - Peter Steinmann (who had been commissioned by MINDEF to shoot the photos on several occasions since the late 1990's) and was published in the MINDEF's "Pioneer" magazine somewhere during the year 2000 and only those two were selected for use in the online version - "Cyber-Pioneer". Do you mind reverting the image back now OR do I have to do it again? Thank you. --Dave1185 (talk) 22:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I fail to see what the 2nd Blackknights image adds. It's basically the first one turned 90 degrees with different lighting. A different A-4SU image would be good. Bring it up on the article talk page if you like. -Fnlayson (talk) 23:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • NVM that, I came up with something better and it has been added. Let me know if this will do. --Dave1185 (talk) 00:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
  • That's real good. Thanks. The ram air intake is the long rectangular budlge on the near side of the intake, right? -Fnlayson (talk) 00:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
  • You got it right! But wait... I've just added two more images, one from as far back as 1988, which was a mock up during the Asian Aerospace exhibition. Wait till Bill sees this, ha! --Dave1185 (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Btw, I had left a message here on Bill's page, perhaps you could offer me some advice? Thanks! --Dave1185 (talk) 19:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blue Fox/Blue Vixen

Jeff, I've noticed we don't have an article on the Blue Fox and Blue Vixen radars, so I did some checking for internet sources. All I found was this one from Flight Global, but it's a reputable source, and has some good info ont he Sea Harrier FA2 upgrade also. ALot of related radars are covered togetehr, so it should be no problem putting these two on the same page. I don't know when I might get to it, but I thought I'd give you aheads up on it. I've never done a radar page from scratch, but most of them are pretty slim anyway. Id just like to put something together to avoid having redlinks. - BillCJ (talk) 19:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know anything about those. I'll do what I can copy editting though. Would you name the article Blue Vixon (newer one I think) and include the Blue Vixon info? -Fnlayson (talk) 23:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Airwolf replica

Someone just added this link to a story about the Airwolf replica being sold on eBay. It said it was in Georgia, but I think it was the same one for the helicopter museum in Pigeon Forge, TN. I'd been hoping to go see it some day, but oh well! Anyway, notice the Bell 222A link in the piece - seeing more of that around now, which is totally cool! Nice to know our work is being seen by more than vandals, huh? - BillCJ (talk) 22:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Good that someone is buying it, vs. destroying it. Wired did use severaal 'pedia links. :) Have you seen any of the discussion on the heaviest US airplane on Talk:Boeing 747-8? I've tried and think I'm pretty much done with it. -Fnlayson (talk) 01:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I looked at the userpage for that 747-8 guy. It says it all! If he contiunes to be a problem over it, we could bring it up at WPAIR, and get a consensus to bypass his objections. I don't think anyone would object to saying the A380 is the heaviest plane ever offered by Airbus, but thats a bit more obvious. Anyway, Boeing is pretty wordy in its PR releases - we can probably find a statement to support it there somewhere. - BillCJ (talk) 01:22, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] KC-45

This is getting a bit ticky tacky, You cited other wiki pages are not valid references per WP:RS as justification for revision, but I cannot find that wording. Saltysailor (talk) 18:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't remove any text, just the Druyun link "reference". See Wikipedia:Reliable source examples. WP:VERIFY is related as well. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Boeing 777 images

Hi there sorry about that. I pushed the wrong button I still havent got used to the Twinkle feature yet and if you would like me to then I will happily change the edit summary. ILoveFran (talk) 19:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't think old edit summaries can changed. In any event just letting you know for future reference. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Airwolf

I have seen a source on that junk that keeps being added - it's apparantly a recent news story. I honestly don't see how such an unverifiable claim - no one apparently saw the man "do" it - belongs in the article, and I'm not sure it's relevant even if verified! Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 04:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Sounds like tabloid content, not encyclopedic at all. -Fnlayson (talk) 04:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Yep, someone added that stuff to the Airwolf (helicopter) article with a link this time. Seems like that falls under WP:NOT#NEWS though. -Fnlayson (talk) 17:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Leyte Gulf reverts

I am not inconsistent. Had you bothered to read aft as I suggested, you would know that after is the adjective form of aft, which refers to the rear of a ship. Thus, "these gun turrets are aft" but "these are the after gun turrets". The phrase "after gun turrets" is used twice in Battle of Leyte Gulf as well as in other Wikipedia articles. DES (talk) 07:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Aft is adjective in most common usage. Same as aft cabin example in the aft article. -Fnlayson (talk) 08:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] JF-17 Thunder

The aircraft's payload seems to be a bit controversial. someone has given the reference of Aviation Week & Space Technology which looks a bit odd as it it does not provide any speific info of JF-17 of its own. Article states that the empty weight is 6300+ kg but some well established sites mention it as 3800kg.I would like you to look into the matter. regards Daredevil555 (talk) 16:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

No idea what is right. The Aviation Week reference in the JF-17 Specs lists a 2008 Aviation Source Book, which appears to be AWST Source Book. Flightglobal.com does not have a profile on it either. That's all I have.. -Fnlayson (talk) 16:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

well these sites do provide valuable [click here ] and [here]. These sites provide authentic info but I really don't know if they can be used as reference. Daredevil555 (talk) 17:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a reference that lists the JF-17/FC-1's empty weight (mass). One does list max take-off weight and normal take-off weight. Given those weights and its size being similar to the JAS 39 & T-50, an empty weight of 3,800 kg seems way low. -Fnlayson (talk) 02:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

same here.I think its way too low may be because its based on a third generation airframe Daredevil555 (talk) 08:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] F-111 edit?

Jeff

I'm an irregular wiki user, and I don't know enough about the F-111 to edit anything, but the paragraph titled 'Futher Developments' appears to be out of place. Since you appear on the history page as one of the editors, I hoped you'd be able to rectify this, or pass the problem on to someone who can. T Dietrich (talk) 08:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey. Yea, it does look odd now. But that text is best related to development. The Development section should address the aircraft's changes after the initial A and B variants (Air Force and Navy requirements). I plan to add a little on that with a couple books I have. -Fnlayson (talk) 12:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

I award Fnlayson this barnstar for his wonderful work on aircraft and aerospace articles. Keep up the good work! Prodego talk 01:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I award Fnlayson this barnstar for his wonderful work on aircraft and aerospace articles. Keep up the good work! Prodego talk 01:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I noticed your edits to B-2 Spirit (thanks for fixing that ref I removed, I had not realized it had covered the prior sentences as well) and I noticed what a superb job you have done. Thanks for your contributions, Prodego talk 01:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. No big deal really. I was guessing it covered the earlier sentence. Being a little safe with that. That's good that removed the possible crash reason, since it was obsolete info. Take it easy. :) -Fnlayson (talk) 01:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mechanical engineering

WP:MOS says to replace all the ampersands and slashes with words; can you reword it without the ampersand or slash? - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 19:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The mining and metallurgical are grouped together there. Will see if I can come up with something other than a slash. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I read the reference and decided that I'd like to pull in more specific information from the source, and that takes out the need for a slash; see what you think. - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 19:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Better and more accurate. Thanks. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MXU-648 Cargo/Travel Pod

Hi Fnlayson, do you know if there is a travel pod wikiarticle? F-15 is certified to carry them on hardpoint 2, 5 and 8. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 22:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Does not look like it. I searched in Wikipedia using a couple options (Google, Yahoo) and couldn't find one. If there are other sizes/versions of that pod and information is available, a new wiki article may be in order. Great, looks someone sells models of these pods: MXU-648 Baggage pod ;) -Fnlayson (talk) 22:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
6 $, gee that's why they are always so dented. BTW, beer is not purely personal belongings but also squadronal belongings ;-) --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 23:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] could you please do me a favor?

Hello,

I am a master student at the Institute of Technology Management, National Tsing Hua University, Taiwan. Currently I am wrapping up my master thesis titled “Can Wikipedia be used for knowledge service?” In order to validate the knowledge evolution maps of identified users in Wikipedia, I need your help. I have generated a knowledge evolution map to denote your knowledge activities in Wikipedia according to your inputs including the creation and modification of contents in Wikipedia, and I need you to validate whether the generated knowledge evolution map matches the knowledge that you perceive you own it. Could you please do me a favor?

  1. I will send you a URL link to a webpage on which your knowledge evolution map displays. Please assign the topic (concept) in the map to a certain cluster on the map according to the relationship between the topic and clusters in your cognition, or you can assign it to ‘none of above’ if there is no suitable cluster.
  2. I will also send a questionnaire to you. The questions are related to my research topic, and I need your viewpoints about these questions.

The deadline of my thesis defense is set by the end of June, 2008. There is no much time left for me to wrap up the thesis. If you can help me, please reply this message. I will send you the URL link of the first part once I receive your response. The completion of my thesis heavily relies much on your generous help.

Sincerely JnWtalk 05:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

No thanks. Good luck. -Fnlayson (talk) 11:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Saturn V & GMA 7 Wonders

You recently removed the GMA mention from United States Space & Rocket Center with the comment "Good Morning 7 wonders already listed." I've checked that article, Saturn V, First Saturn V Launch Vehicle, and Good Morning America but am not finding where it is already listed. Where are you finding the listing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crkey (talk • contribs) 14:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

See the Davidson Center section. And please sign your posts.. -Fnlayson (talk) 14:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
You're right. I mis-read your comment and the article. Thought I was looking at the old edit and then played an idiot move (including not signing my comment). Thanks. Crkey (talk) 14:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I should have specified where, like below or something. Take it easy... -Fnlayson (talk) 16:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)